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    Old 12-23-2010, 05:54 PM   #1
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    Does anyone out there think this is a lot?

    Does anyone out there think taking 180 hydrocodone, 150 methadone, 90 norco10, 90 soma350 and 90 adderoll, 90 xanax seem like a lot? this doesn't include if they hit other doctors for the hyrdocodone or go to the er for them? they havde not been officially diagnosed with anything but says they have fibro?

     
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    Old 12-23-2010, 06:51 PM   #2
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

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    Does anyone out there think taking 180 hydrocodone, 150 methadone, 90 norco10, 90 soma350 and 90 adderoll, 90 xanax seem like a lot? this doesn't include if they hit other doctors for the hyrdocodone or go to the er for them? they havde not been officially diagnosed with anything but says they have fibro?
    Yes, I would say that that is a lot of medication for one person. My sons take adderall for add and adhd and neither one of them take it more than twice a day ( a long acting form in the morning and a short acting after they get out of school). 180 vicoden/hydrocodone is at least 6 per day, along with methadone 5 per day , 90 norco is the same thing as vicoden, just a different dose of hydrocodone ( 10 mg in Norco, usually 5 or 7.5 in hydrocodone usually called vicoden/vicoden es), and the xanax, depending on the dosage is a lot of medications, especially for a diagnosis of fibro.
    I would wonder if the medications were all prescribed by the same physician, and if it was a specialist in fibro or a general practitioner?

     
    Old 12-23-2010, 06:55 PM   #3
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    Adderall is not prescribed by any physician for fibromyalgia, at least from my experience with it. I wonder what the person in question is taking it for and who is prescribing it? We had to take our sons to have them evaluated by a specialized physician to make sure that they indeed had add/adhd before even considering doing a trial with medications after behavior modification techniques failed to improve their attention problems in large part, and only after going through several rounds of testing and evaluating, was it decided to give medication therapy a trial.
    I am aware though that adderall is one of the many medications out there that have a huge reputation as being one of the drugs that can and are abused by addicts.
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    Old 12-23-2010, 06:58 PM   #4
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    1 doctor is giving her the big ones he is a pm doctor but hasn't diagnosed her with anything and the other giving her adderoll and xanax is a pcp although he has prescribed her hydrocodone and methandone here and there.........

     
    Old 12-23-2010, 06:58 PM   #5
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    To judge what you're taking as alot or too much is really hard for another person to do. People react so differently to meds. I take MSContin 120mgs, Percocet 60mgs, Ibuprophen 1600mgs,Lexapro 80mgs, Seroquel 200mgs, Topomax 100mgs, Vistail 40mgs, Premarin 0.09mgs, Singulair 20mgs, Ambien CR 12.5mgs, Axert 12.5 prn for migraines, usually take it at least once per week, Clonodine 5mg, Klonopin 5mgs., Lidocain patches, and B12 injections once per day. I know this sounds like a ton of meds, but I have various conditions along with my Chronic Pain and they all have to be managed. So it can be a full time job balancing all the meds, tracking the side effects and making sure they all "play well" together.

    So don't let anyone tell you what you take is too much, they are not you or your physcician. Just do as your doc tells you and use what it takes to make your pain tolerable. If you think you are on too much med, more than you need to control your pain, then wean yourself off of some of them

     
    Old 12-23-2010, 07:00 PM   #6
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    we don't understand it either....neither doctor has diagnosed her with anything. she complains of chronic back pain from a car accident 8 years ago, but she never complained of her back hurting until 2 years ago so even that is in question and then all of the sudden she is on disability for fibro....the doctor that put her on disablity lost his medical license or prescribing medications for non-theraputic use its crazy!

     
    Old 12-30-2010, 12:07 PM   #7
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    Well, there's my first lesson. I was writing a message and the space was suddenly terminated. If you find a partial message from me, ignore it.

    Bottom line, I have fibromyalgia in a bad way. Gets worse with age. Have used most of the drugs discussed here. Will try the directions for Fentanyl patches (taping all sides) to see if that helps. But Fentanyl gives me urine retention, which is not pleasant. Haven't decided whether to continue.

    My observations: Dependent is different from addiction; addiction is needing more and more to do the same job. Dependent is just needing the meds for relief. Getting high is the main purpose of addiction.

    Methadone is a very good solution for chronic pain. I took the same dosage for 10 years and it didn't do the job by itself but it allowed me to conduct my life. With a granddaughter, finally, and another on the way, I want to live well. Oxycodone is OK, but must be repeated at regular intervals. OTC is useless unless you're sick and have a fever. Watch the liver, however, which can be affected by acetaminophen (Tylenol).

    Fibromyalgia also brings sleep problems. I take baclofen, clonazepam (Klonopin) and Seroquel to help with that plus a CPAP machine. All that and I still don't sleep well. Can anyone tell me of a 12-hour pain patch? I was doing fine on Methadone until my dr. (a family pract.) was forbidden by the state from prescribing it any more.

    My experience with pain clinics has been dismal. I went to the first one a couple years and the PA who saw patients (the supervising dr. was never there) became so frazzled she and I had an argument over whether I should take naps in the daytime. I left and my family dr. continued my regimen. The second I went to took away all my meds and injected me with anesthetics, which didn't do much of anything. She wouldn't even give me anything for sleep except one med I've had a reaction to.

    It's been gratifying to read that so many people have chronic pain and are struggling with it, just as I am. I'm sorry that there seems so little hope for so many. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of the group.

     
    Old 12-30-2010, 05:56 PM   #8
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    Re: Does anyone out there think this is a lot?

    yes, that's a lot unless the person has been in long-term pain management and has tolerance issues. seems like a red-flag to me.

     
    Old 12-30-2010, 11:00 PM   #9
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    reallywants2no, did they do an MRI of her back and neck. Years later, the neck and back problems will show up. Fibromyalgia is caused by the whiplash caused by the car accident to the neck(perhaps to the back but not sure).

    I suggest to do an MRI for back and neck. That is the first step.

    Good Luck to you.

     
    Old 12-30-2010, 11:25 PM   #10
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    Re: No longer pain relief, addiction relief

    ihs1939, i have also been in a car accident. What happened to you in this accident? Have you had a severe whiplash involving your neck? Do you have neck pain? I also cannot sleep at night since the accident. 2 years in a row after the accident didn't take any sleeping meds and did not sleep at all.

    I wanted to tell you that I am so sorry you have been in a car accident. Really. I feel like crying, it really destroys life. Not all lives. My doctor also been in a car accident. He told me. Nothing happened to him. When I was a kid I also been in a car accident and nothing happened to me. It was this girl backing to the house, not even on the road. She backed into the house, I felt my neck strained big time. severe whiplash that's what it took. THere is nothing to do now. I cannot change the past. I do not even want to talk about it. I will start crying. I am only 39. cannot sleep also. If you look at me now you will see me crying. I am on clonazepam 4mg - that is the only mg which allows me to sleep but only for 4-5 hours and I take it at night time. I do not take it every night, cause I have high tolerance to pain meds. strange. I was on percocet that did not last long. Now on oxycontin 40mg, I do not take it every day due to high tolerance also. Been trying mostly all the sleeping pills in the market.

    I was supposed to go to my doctor yesterday to ask for doxepin but did not go. That is for sleep. Have you tried that?.

    by the way, baclofen is nothing for pain. did not help me. not for car injuries.
    Have you tried Topamax? it might bothers your sleep and it might not so you might want to try it. It helps the pain. soft tissue damage.

    I agree with you with going only to your family doctor that's it. I believe family doctors are better than PM at least they are family doctors. I had an argument with my family doctor who wanted to send me back to the pm clinic and I said NO. I told him they do not believe me I suffer from pain and they told me I imagine. I did an MRI and they still said there that it was nothing. but family doctor tend to believe more. Who knows why those PM chose this profession.

    So anyway, you will need to find some new ways to improve your sleep so you won't suffer. honestly. If serequel does not help you and clonazepam does not(it also depends on the dose)do you know that, and that you will need to discuss with your doctor.

    I wish you the best.

    P.S try adding sleepytime tea. it also depends on how much you drink you know. 1-3 cups. and that's before you go to sleep. sometimes it helps.
    also take vitamin E + Selenium for pain twice a day for pain, that helps the pain cause it improves circulation.

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    Old 01-04-2011, 07:10 PM   #11
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    Re: Does anyone out there think this is a lot?

    None of us can really judge if that is too much medication or not. I recently read an article by a PM doc(can't find it) and he stated that no pain patient should be doped, slurring speech, falling asleep in the middle of doing something, etc. He said that pain meds can be prescribed appropriately without all those side affects. I think trouble comes in with drug cocktails. When you add all the muscle relaxers, anti-anxiety meds, nerve meds, etc. But as those meds have their use it is definitely a balancing act.

    The way I have learned to guage is watching the things listed above, and doing other, non-medication ways to manage pain. At times when the pain has been relentless there is nothing I would like more than to take the meds and lie down, but that is not always the best or only approach. The meds are prescribed to give us back some quality of life. Unfortunately this is not as easy as it would seem and many factors come into play here. For example, when a person is somewhat new to pain management, it may take a few years to get stablelized so the person may not be in the best situation while they are still in a higher level of pain. Illnesses change, new symptoms come up so that may need to be addressed.

    So in a nut shell, are the meds helping add quality to life? Are they making things better rather than worse. Talk with the person, you can never go wrong with open communication.

     
    Old 01-04-2011, 09:55 PM   #12
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    Re: Does anyone out there think this is a lot?

    they have checked how strong i am(the strengh of my hands)and the saw wow so strong. srange. So they thought it was my muslces, oh wow perhaps i bet not for so many years. muscles heal somewhat. mine never did. ANyway. that is how they figure out there is NO need to do an MRI. lot's of doctors go by it. THe pain i have felt like pressure on my nerves 24/7. perhaps that is what your daughter has cause of the car accident. THat can happen and even years after the accident. She may have a slipped disks.

    There can still be BULGING DISKS pressing on your nerves causing pain, even a tiny slipped disks like i have. That is why it is so important to do an MRI. I was refused again and again. so i put pressure on the doctors again and again. I did not give up. i wanted to know why i suffer. it was not in my mind.

    Anyway, MRI is a must. Don't go by checking the strengh of her hands.

    Oh, there is no treatment, there is no physical therapy to treat chronic pain. I have been sent to the "best" physical therapist. I was "accused" howcome u are sent to the best physical therphist,the most educated one and she cannot help you. I was accused.
    oh give me a break doctor. and that was another doctor who was against the use of percocet, another story. It is about time they understand physical therapist cannot help chronic neck pain perhaps only for 15 minutes-1 hour. I don't even remember, it has been a while ago.

    Honestly, if she was injured it is about time to do a standard MRI of neck and back as I said before. I hope you read this.

     
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