It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....



Pain Management Message Board

  • If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

  • Post New Thread   Closed Thread
    Thread Tools Search this Thread
    Old 07-11-2014, 10:23 PM   #1
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Talking If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    For this past year, all has gone pretty nicely and smoothly with my being on the Fentanyl patch. And then, my Pain Dr. moved to Tucson to start his own practice. I guess I figured with a new Dr, This is my chance to start a new/different prescription. So much for me and my great ideas! I took my scripts, with Oxycontin now instead of Fentanyl patches, to my normal regular pharmacy. I went down and picked them all up when they said they're now ready for pickup. I go home and open them up, not bothering to look at anything until now. There is a 30 day prescription for the Fentanyl patch! How could that be? I didn't even bring in a prescription for it! I called and they told me to come back and pick up the Oxycontin prescription, my insurance won't cover it. (Of course not. They just covered the imaginary Fentanyl patch prescription!) Because of my request, my new Dr. had changed it to Oxycontin instead of the normal Fentanyl patches. When I asked that pharmacist about it, he said he cannot take any script back, once it has left the pharmacy, so just toss them out. Ok. This was his mistake,, not mine, but, about then I knew I was going to get introuble for this. I then took the Oxycontin script somewhere else to pay cash for it. I took it to the place that gave me the cheapest amount when I called 5 different pharmacies. Today, before my appt., I had this idea to write down exactly what had happened before I went in to see my Dr., so that I already had this note all dated and in writing before I got there. Thank goodness I did that! The first thing the Dr. said was "Why did you still pick up Fentanyl patches?" I handed her the note explaining that I'd rather she read this from what I'd previouisly written down before I was even there, rather than me blubbering and nervous making myself sound guilty when I'd done nothing wrong, besides checking my scripts BEFORE I left the pharmacy. She believed me then, however, she still insisted I do a UA before she writes anything at all for me. No problem. It did show positive for Opiates like it should have. And so my Dr. said they're still sending out my UA and it'll take a few days to have looked at so today she will only write me scripts for a week, then have me come back next week. Since I tested positive for Opiates like I was supposed too, I'm wondering why they're still sending out my UA?? I'm thinking it's probably because after all that going on last month, they need to double check everything. If that's it, I can understand it. I think I better just be grateful she even filled a weeks worth for me, because if she really did think I was up to something, or lying, she wouldn't have filled anything at all. But, she would've then just had me wait until my appt. next week. What does this sound like to others?? (Besides a big mess! Lol. I should've just left well enough alone! For the past year, everything's been great, until I had the "great idea" to try a new medication. That seems to be when this mess first started..........

     
    Sponsors Lightbulb
       
    Old 07-11-2014, 11:27 PM   #2
    gmak
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    Join Date: Oct 2012
    Location: USA
    Posts: 2,649
    gmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB User
    Re: If it's not broken,,,,,Don't fix it!

    Hi karlee, What a mess, you poor thing! Im really glad the dr believed you & wrote your prescriptions. My dr said he gets a copy of every med that i have filled from my insurance & my pharmacy per month & if thats the case with your dr she would have those reports in your chart, your permanent record & so i think that for documentation sake she may need the ua to have proof that you took what you were prescribed by her & not the fentanyl patch as well or at least that what you told her you took is what shows in the Ua. I wouldnt have been surprised if she asked to see the fentanyl patch unopened boxes as part of a pill count. Im so glad that you thought to write that letter because i understand how nervous & upset you were because i would have been a basket case what with a brand new dr & a mix up like this! Did the pharmacist ever explain how this happened without a prescription & offer to write a letter also to give to the dr? It may not be too late to at least request one so that you could tell the dr you did.Which med worked better for you & did she write to continue the med that worked the best for you? Do you know if your insurance will cover your prescription for the oxycontin now? I hope that there are no more problems after today & all works out well with the pm dr & the pharmacy & for you!

    Last edited by gmak; 07-11-2014 at 11:42 PM.

     
    Old 07-12-2014, 11:27 AM   #3
    tortoisegirl
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Location: Washington
    Posts: 1,204
    tortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB Usertortoisegirl HB User
    Re: If it's not broken,,,,,Don't fix it!

    Wow thats crazy. I bet that pharmacist will get in trouble too since their CII counts will be off. Definately look at all your prescriptions before you leave the pharmacy, as if for example they short you pills, you may be out of luck once you leave. Best case is to count the pills there in front of them, but I'm not comfortable doing that, so I just give it a good eyeball to see it looks like the correct level in the bottle.

    Agreed that when you come in next week taking in the unused Fentanyl patches is a good idea. Yes I think they will double check you only had Oxycontin in your system, not Fentanyl. Annoying you need to come back in a week, for the time, plus then you'll have two office visit and two prescription copays in a month. What is the reason for your insurance denying Oxycontin? Will the doctor let you switch back to Fentanyl? Best wishes.
    __________________
    Kate
    constant headache since 2006

     
    Old 07-13-2014, 06:06 AM   #4
    oldnbroken
    Junior Member
    (female)
     
    oldnbroken's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2014
    Posts: 37
    oldnbroken HB Useroldnbroken HB User
    Re: If it's not broken,,,,,Don't fix it!

    What a mess...I agree, take the unopened box of patches to your doctor and get a letter from the pharmacy explaining what happened on that end-I am really amazed that you even got the patches without a script to start with....wow...

    Anyway, my understanding of urine test on fentanyl is that it needs a special test that can only be done in a lab-forgot the name of it-Everything should be fine provided that you don't have that in your system since it wasn't RX'd.

    When crazy things like this happen-my advise-call your doctor ASAP and let them know what happened-Mix ups happen but when dealing with chronic pain doctors and medication-Best to keep the doctor office aware of anything different that happens so its in your medical records at the time it happened. Don't wait for the doctor to ask about it later.

    If its the Oxycontin long acting-it can be a bugger to get insurance to pay for it-that is what I have been on for years and have to search for insurance that will cover it every year-If insurance can't pay for it I couldn't take it since it can cost well over $450.00 for a 30 day supply.

    Good luck, I hope everything works out for you

    Last edited by oldnbroken; 07-13-2014 at 06:08 AM.

     
    Old 07-14-2014, 01:43 PM   #5
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hi. Thank you for those replies! When I did see that new Dr. last week, I told her that after all this, I wanted to forget that idea of trying Oxycontin now, but to just continue on the same thing I've been taking for the past year that's been working pretty well. I mentioned that I wish that I'd just left well enough alone, and had her just re-write my same refills as I'd been taking for months and months. The reason I even wanted to change in the first place is that I live in Lake Havasu city, AZ. which gets 5 degrees hotter than Phoenix even in the summer here. With sweating and swimming, I'd started having problems with the patch sticking and staying in place since the hot weather all started up. After all this, I told her I'll work with it somehow, besides i doubt my insurance will change for Oxycontin anyway. For this week's worth of Fentanyl, it's 3 patches which is another problem I ran into. Pharmacists don't want to break up a box of 5, saying that then they'll just lose the remaining 2. I'm still not sure I can get these 3 filled. Right now I'm waiting for my Drs. office people to come back from lunch. My prescriptions are at the pharmacy I left them at, after doing my best to explain situation to the pharmacist, she wants to call my Drs. office before doing anything. That's ok. I told her I completely understand why, with a crazy story like I'd just explained to her. (this is not the same pharmacy that messed me all up) Right now, I'm waiting until after 2;00 to call them. That's when my Drs. office will be back from lunch and be able to confirm what i'd explained to her. And so, that's where I am for now. The update.

     
    Old 07-16-2014, 04:21 PM   #6
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hi. Thank you for the replies. They are very much needed and appreciated. Compared to last week, I am in a completely different frame of mind and I owe it to healthboards, once again. Before I found Healthboards, I didn't know of anyone else (friends or family or anyone) personally who goes to a Pain Clinic and/or takes long-acting medications for an extended amount of time. But, being able to have support such as this, for someone like me is priceless! 2 of the ones that I'm extremely grateful for are Gmak and Tortoisegirl. Just as the last poster brought up here, I realize I ask questions and have also made a few not so great decisions since starting pain management and I really do want to apologize to anyone here who I've offended or annoyed a few times too many. I have never intended on doing this and really don't want to lose my priveleges here. This is my only pain management support right now. I'm not married, or have a significant other, or do I want one. I say this to hopefully communicate just how much I'm helped by Healthboards, and also how grateful I am to have the option to go here when I feel I really need support and/or are in a situation I'm really not sure what to next with. For example, THIS ONE. All of a sudden having a replacement Dr. that's intimidating to me, and at the first visit, my pharmacist filling the wrong prescription, that I picked up and took home with the others. The solution may seem simple and obvious, but to me, I really thought that without someone's help here, I'd end up kicked out, and with no Dr. at all, back in the severe pain I had 2 years ago before I started at this current pain clinic I'm going too. Thank you so much to all of you that I sincerely appreciate your time, patience, and wonderful support here.

     
    The following user gives a hug of support to karlee1010:
    oldnbroken (07-17-2014)
    The Following User Says Thank You to karlee1010 For This Useful Post:
    gmak (07-17-2014)
    Old 07-16-2014, 05:13 PM   #7
    gmak
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    Join Date: Oct 2012
    Location: USA
    Posts: 2,649
    gmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Karlee dear, You have supported me & others many times here as well & i just love that you are always so positive, uplifting & enthusiatic to share in hoping for the best for others & arent ever annoying in fact the opposite & are very kind, affirming & have bright outlooks despite your pain & suffering & problems! You are a joy & thank you, too! So no problems getting your patch this week after all?

    Last edited by gmak; 07-16-2014 at 05:19 PM.

     
    Old 07-16-2014, 09:08 PM   #8
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hi. Well, thank you so much, Gmak. When I first started coming here, right off I noticed how encouraging and positive you are. Soon after that, I was amazed to notice that even though you have severe pain, you almost always take the time to welcome and encourage others. And yet, still, you come here for your own questions and issues. You're a really good example and attribute for Healthboards, and proof that we have a choice here: I can allow my pain to take away all my joy, or work hard to keep as much joy as I can, for myself and to share with others. Some days I'm in alot more pain than other days. But, no matter how severe my pain is, It will not be less severe if I come in here and take it out on someone else by bringing a bad attitude.
    As far as what my new Dr. said last week, well, since I had to pay cash for the Oxycontin prescription, she had no problem with my calling a few pharmacies to find the least amount to pay cash for. When I went back, a week ago, she had me give her a UA. And then, she only gave me 1 weeks prescriptions. Tomorrow I go back to be UA'ed again, and so once she gets those results, she'll write me out my normal 30 day supply hopefully. Its a 3 hour drive to my pain clinic so I certainly can't afford to go there weekly. Thank you again for your concern and support, Gmak. Have you completely gotten better now from your fall a few months ago? I've felt so bad for you. Have a wonderful night, and I'll let you know tomorrow night how the appointment goes tomorrow.........

     
    Old 07-17-2014, 01:12 AM   #9
    BB07
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    BB07's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Feb 2010
    Location: Lower Alabama
    Posts: 1,102
    BB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB UserBB07 HB User
    Smile Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hello Karlee1010-

    Have you tried the new formulation of the "oxycontin"? IMHO the new formula of oxycontin is terrible. In fact, the old formulation of the "oxycontin" was THE only ORAL LA narcotic medication that actually helped me.

    Then due to the unsolicited popularity amongst the "addicts"-the pharmaceutical co. was forced to change the formula to make the oxycontin "ABUSE PROOF", in the process destroying(imo and nit just mine, score of other legitimate CP oxycontin noticed the same thing.

    The Fentanyl Patch-namely the brand name "Duragesic" was also re-formulated too, due to foolish people, trying to inject the gel from these patches, and abusing these patches in other ways too-but the one's who really suffer as we all know are the CPP's.

    I use the "matrix" Brand name Duragesic 100mcg patches, and I had been complaining for sometime that these 100mcg patches seem to be a lot weaker than they should be-I just could not quite put my finger on it, but I knew these patches were weaker than they should be.

    Well, this month when I picked them up-they were different. On the top of the box it read in Green Letters the following- Now with GREEN print on patch!

    Whatever that means.

    Well, I soon found out what I think it means-they are MUCH STRONGER, I kid you not.

    Now they feel like a 100mcg Duragesic patch should.

    I wonder if anyone else has noticed this about the brand name Duragesic fentanyl patches? Karlee1010-why did you want to change to oxycontin-was it by any chance it was because the fent patch was not giving you appropriate relief?

    I had tried all of the generic fentanyl patches prior to the brand name Duragesic, mostly because that's what was required by my Ins Co before they would give prior auth for the Duragesic patch.-it had to be documented in my medical chart, that I had tried them and the doctor documented my progress with each generic patch or lack there of.

    Anyways[I am not kidding], the new "style"(the one with the GREEN lettering on the patch itself) of Duragesic matrix patch-is much more potent-so BE CAREFUL if you are rx'd the Duragesic patch
    they WERE junk/absolute garbage when it came to getting adequate relief.

    I would like to hear if you, Karlee1010 were on a generic patch, if so which one, and what is your opinion far as a LA narcotic pain reliever-

    Do you also use a BT MED?

    I could not be happier with the "new" Duragesic patch, as it is relieving my pain so well, I am even SLEEPING BETTER-I am usually awakened(even when I Take 1mg Klonapin, and 5 mg valium as directed by my Pysch/sleep specialist. Well I have not taken the nite meds for 5 days now-and am sleeping from 2-3hrs up to 5-6 hrs-this is nothing short of a miracle in my case!!!
    __________________
    constant companion pain

     
    Old 07-17-2014, 01:42 PM   #10
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hi. BBO7. No I haven't tried out a "new patch" like the one you described. Every month I get a generic patch. I believe it's usually the Mylan brand. My insurance will not cover the patch past 100 mcg., and I'm above that now, so it ends up I have to pay cash every month for the patches above that. I cannot afford it at all and that's why I wanted to see if my insurance would pay for something else. That is the reason I talked to my Dr. About trying Oxycontins. They will not cover that either I found out. Every time I get patches (each month) they seem to be the same strength. That's ok tho, I am very grateful for that strength. Thank you so much for your post tho, that's how I learn a lot of things. By people like you posting them like that. I'm real happy for you that you're now getting the relief you must need. I hope the best for you.

     
    Old 07-18-2014, 06:10 PM   #11
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    I've got good news! I wrote that last post in the waiting room of my PC Dr. She came right in after that and said since I was honest and once again my UA tested positive for Opiates just like it was supposed too, she was happy to keep working with me, with a smile on her face even. I told her how much I appreciated all that, and that I regretted her first impression with me was so chaotic like that. She then said she'd write me the normal 30 day prescriptions and that someone else had come back "questionable" also, and that she had chosen to just not call or come back at all which was foolish on her part because they would have worked with her also if she'd just been honest with them as I had. Now I realize that many of you have gone years and years with never a crazy or questionable story like I'd had, and you all are very inspiring to me and to those of us just starting out here with alot less time than you all have. My sharing this isn't to upset or discourage any of you by no means. I feel this could possibly help someone who just didn't check out their prescription right like I didn't do. Just grab the filled scripts, say thank you, have my mind on a million other things and go home. I will never do that again after this. This could have gotten me kicked out, and left in all that pain I'd been in 2 years ago before I started pain management. Alot of you might think it should have. And I wasn't even very grateful for my new Dr. before this even. I've learned a big lesson here. To be grateful for what I have. To not just assume this new Dr. is a jerk, before I really give her a decent chance even. Always be honest with your Dr. And if I still would've gotten kicked out, at least I KNOW I had been honest with everything with my Dr. When they sent out my UA to a lab, whatever the reason it was a good reason. And by doing it, they found out my story was the truth. And, after all, they always deserve the truth, especially with all they have against them these days to keep their license. Thank you again for all your support, it's truly appreciated.

     
    Old 07-18-2014, 09:13 PM   #12
    gmak
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    Join Date: Oct 2012
    Location: USA
    Posts: 2,649
    gmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karlee1010 View Post
    Hi. Well, thank you so much, Gmak. When I first started coming here, right off I noticed how encouraging and positive you are. Soon after that, I was amazed to notice that even though you have severe pain, you almost always take the time to welcome and encourage others. And yet, still, you come here for your own questions and issues. You're a really good example and attribute for Healthboards, and proof that we have a choice here: I can allow my pain to take away all my joy, or work hard to keep as much joy as I can, for myself and to share with others. Some days I'm in alot more pain than other days. But, no matter how severe my pain is, It will not be less severe if I come in here and take it out on someone else by bringing a bad attitude.
    As far as what my new Dr. said last week, well, since I had to pay cash for the Oxycontin prescription, she had no problem with my calling a few pharmacies to find the least amount to pay cash for. When I went back, a week ago, she had me give her a UA. And then, she only gave me 1 weeks prescriptions. Tomorrow I go back to be UA'ed again, and so once she gets those results, she'll write me out my normal 30 day supply hopefully. Its a 3 hour drive to my pain clinic so I certainly can't afford to go there weekly. Thank you again for your concern and support, Gmak. Have you completely gotten better now from your fall a few months ago? I've felt so bad for you. Have a wonderful night, and I'll let you know tomorrow night how the appointment goes tomorrow.........
    Hi karlee & thanks for the update! Im so happy for you & that it all worked out with the new pm dr & the patches & that the dr understood about the pharmacy's prescription mistake. I am over the fracture now & my mom has been at my house for 8 weeks recovering from her 3 month hospitalization after she fell 3 days after i did & going back to her home sunday. By the way i had to get a generic patch that wasnt mylan last month & it was huge, gel filled, & it filled with water everytime i bathed even with tegaderm cover dressing, caused a rash around edges & i am finally done with them & have mylan patches again & i am as happy as you are to have mylan patches again & my pain is relieved so much better like usual & before last months troubles! Thank you for asking about me.

    Last edited by gmak; 07-18-2014 at 09:21 PM.

     
    Old 07-21-2014, 09:29 AM   #13
    karlee1010
    Senior Member
    (female)
     
    Join Date: May 2014
    Location: USA
    Posts: 144
    karlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB Userkarlee1010 HB User
    Wink Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Hi. Your welcome, Gmak. Wow. Your mom was in the hospital a long time. I'm so glad she has you. I'm sure she is also. With my favorite Dr. that moved, he only had me do a UA 1 time in 2 years. Only when I started out with him. It sounds like this new Dr. is going to have me do a UA every time I go. It doesn't bother me now, since I'm doing the right thing. In fact, it seems like most Drs. nowadays require a monthly UA. I'm thinking that one of the worse parts of pain management these days is the fear that something will go wrong, beyond our control, so that we end up getting kicked out and stuck with no meds. For so many of us, THAT means everything to us! It's not at all like an antibiotic where we could then go to an Urgent Care and just get another prescription for it. Alot of stress is involved between both, Dr. and patient these days. To simply tell your pain management Dr. that you really appreciate them, and all they're doing for you, even if they really do stink sometimes, (haha) really makes a difference, I've noticed. Both visits with my new Dr. I did that. I really believe that positivity made a difference to her. She acted as if she didn't hear that much. I'm going to be sure and say that each time I see her now. That's something we all need to hear these days. And, the positive tone it does to my appt. time with her is so worth it.

     
    The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to karlee1010 For This Useful Post:
    gmak (07-21-2014),tortoisegirl (07-22-2014)
    Old 07-21-2014, 09:47 AM   #14
    gmak
    Senior Veteran
    (female)
     
    Join Date: Oct 2012
    Location: USA
    Posts: 2,649
    gmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB Usergmak HB User
    Re: If it's not broken ... Don't fix it!

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by karlee1010 View Post
    Hi. Your welcome, Gmak. Wow. Your mom was in the hospital a long time. I'm so glad she has you. I'm sure she is also. With my favorite Dr. that moved, he only had me do a UA 1 time in 2 years. Only when I started out with him. It sounds like this new Dr. is going to have me do a UA every time I go. It doesn't bother me now, since I'm doing the right thing. In fact, it seems like most Drs. nowadays require a monthly UA. I'm thinking that one of the worse parts of pain management these days is the fear that something will go wrong, beyond our control, so that we end up getting kicked out and stuck with no meds. For so many of us, THAT means everything to us! It's not at all like an antibiotic where we could then go to an Urgent Care and just get another prescription for it. Alot of stress is involved between both, Dr. and patient these days. To simply tell your pain management Dr. that you really appreciate them, and all they're doing for you, even if they really do stink sometimes, (haha) really makes a difference, I've noticed. Both visits with my new Dr. I did that. I really believe that positivity made a difference to her. She acted as if she didn't hear that much. I'm going to be sure and say that each time I see her now. That's something we all need to hear these days. And, the positive tone it does to my appt. time with her is so worth it.
    Karlee, You are right! We have to look for the positives & be grateful, too! Im not sure my pm dr would call my appreciation positive though, i mostly beg him never to retire, move etc & tell him i couldnt / cant live/ function in my life without him being my dr! Sounds kinda negative can't, can't, can't! Lol

    Last edited by gmak; 07-21-2014 at 09:56 AM.

     
    Closed Thread

    Related Topics
    Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
    Heart Broken! cher54 Codependency 3 06-23-2014 09:28 AM
    is my finger broken? cherrylimeade Arm, Wrist & Hand 1 05-16-2014 05:21 PM
    two broken heels, broken spine and a broken wrist how long will i be out for? kido901 Orthopedic 11 08-22-2013 01:27 PM




    Thread Tools Search this Thread
    Search this Thread:

    Advanced Search

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is Off
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are Off
    Pingbacks are Off
    Refbacks are Off




    Sign Up Today!

    Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. Join the conversation!

    I want my free account

    All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:32 PM.





    © 2020 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved.
    Do not copy or redistribute in any form!