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    Old 09-10-2003, 10:28 AM   #1
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    The discovery that psychosis (a state in which the individual is out of touch with reality) is treatable with antipsychotic drugs has led scientists to look for the origins of severe mental disorders in abnormal brain chemistry. The search has become very complex, as more and more of the chemical substances that carry messages from one nerve cell to another--the neurotransmitters--have been discovered. So far, no clear-cut answers have been found. As with the genetic studies, biochemical studies have not examined paranoia except as a subtype of schizophrenia. There is, however, limited evidence that paranoid schizophrenia is biochemically distinct from non paranoid forms of the disorder.
    Abuse of drugs such as amphetamines, cocaine, marijuana, PCP, LSD, or other stimulants or "psychedelic" compounds may lead to symptoms of paranoid thinking or behavior. Patients with major mental disorders like paranoid schizophrenia may have their symptoms become worse under the influence of these drugs. Scientists are studying the biochemical actions of such drugs to determine how they produce their behavioral effects. This may help us to learn more about the neurochemistry of paranoid disorders, which is poorly understood at this time.
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    Some scientists believe paranoia may be a reaction to high levels of life stress. Lending support to this opinion is the evidence that paranoia is more prevalent among immigrants, prisoners of war, and others undergoing severe stress. Sometimes, when thrust into a new and highly stressful situation, people suffer an acute form--called "acute paranoia"--in which delusions develop over a short period of time and last only a few months.
    Some studies indicate that paranoia has become more prevalent in the twentieth century. The connection between stress and paranoia does not, of course, rule out other contributing factors. A genetic defect, a brain abnormality, an information-processing disability--or all three--could predispose a person to paranoia; stress may merely act as a trigger.


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    Old 09-10-2003, 11:35 AM   #2
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    Old 09-10-2003, 01:05 PM   #3
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    What do you mean by: ???????

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    Old 09-10-2003, 01:14 PM   #4
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    Sorry, Bob, I couldn't find the relationship between paranoia and rsd....I'm a bottom liner.

    But who am I talking to anyway? LOL

     
    Old 09-10-2003, 07:12 PM   #5
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    Bob
    While the information is interesting and sheds light on the topics, I must agree that this is a vary ambiguos post. Maybe you could clear up for us the significance of your posting as related to RSD or Chronic Pain in general.

    Do you suffer from bouts of paranoia? I have found that many people with rsd do suffer from depression from time to time, but this is to be expected as long periods of intense pain can lead to depression and a feeling of disconnection from mainstream society.

    A clarification of the intention or meaning of your post would help all of us to better understand your point of view.

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    Old 09-10-2003, 08:47 PM   #6
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    hi Bob,

    are you taking neurontin/gabapentin? I have heard from some who have tried it that it can cause some very bad side effects (anxiety, hallucinations, etc), others seem to have no side effects. just curious...

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    Old 09-10-2003, 10:10 PM   #7
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    I'm - Back...
    Yes I'm taking both neurontin and gabapentin. I am also seeing a Behavior Health Specialist at St.Luke's Hospital for anxiety and paranoia. The accident I had almost killed me. Big deal. It was me and not any of you. Yea I have a lot of stress that goes with it. I guess none of you have any post traumatic stress disorders or else you would know what I'm talking about and what the relationship with PARANOIA is.

    Post traumatic stress disorders can occur as a sudden, acute response, or it can develop gradually and become chronic or persistent. Studies indicate that people who live with PTSD tend to have abnormal levels of key hormones involved in the stress response, according to the NIMH. For example, research has shown that their cortisol levels are lower than normal and their epinephrine and norepinephrine are higher than normal - all of which play an important role in the body's fight-or-flight reaction to sudden stress. The body of a person with chronic PTSD may show such adaptations to the stress over time - a phenomenon that researchers call "physiologic habituation." Currently, research is being conducted to further investigate the causes and consequences of posttraumatic stress disorder.

    Sometimes, the symptoms of Posttraumatic stress disorder are easy to identify; they often resemble the symptoms of depression .However PTSD is not the same as depression. "Posttraumatic stress disorder is characterized by sleeplessness; nightmares; apathy; inability to get along with others, particularly in close relationships; PARANOIA and distrust; and an unwillingness to discuss or revisit in any way the site of the trauma," says Dr. Peterson from NIMH. (The National Institute for Mental Health)

    You see, I'm only trying to educate you people.

    If all you people have is pain from your RSDS/CRPS and no stress, God Bless you all .

    My CRPS, as DR. Mortazavi diagnosed it as, has been moving at a terrible rate of speed. In the last 4 months my pain levels have gone ballistic. Both my legs from the knees down feel like concrete pillars. Every morning I have to roll out of bed because my back is locked up with spasms. I can't remember sheet. The back of my neck cramps and when I twist it you can hear my neck crack from 5 feet away. I also sustained a torn meniscus to my knee that locks up when I squat and clicks when I walk but to operate and fix the problem would just super charge the RSD and probably kill me. I have asked doctors to amputate my left foot to relieve the pain, but they won't. I have constant ringing in both my ears, especially the left one. I get blurred vision too. YAHOO !!! I also have an RSDS twin personality that some of you have already critisized. And guess what? Iíll bet that 9 out of 10 times after I eat I get sick and at least 20% of that time I puke up supper. WHAT FUN I AM HAVING.

    By the way people with RSD will have a "head" problem if they donít have an open mind.

    Now read this and understand the true meaning of what I wrote about Paranoia and Stress.

    True 100% RSDS/CRPS causes STRESS. Physically and Mentally. If anyone denies that they don't know what true RSDS/CRPS is all about. If the stress is high enough, as from a traumatic accident where as you almost lost your life, you have worked all your life and now your incapacitated , you severely fear going back to work, you fear going out into the public because you might see the person that caused your accident. Iím having a hard time.

    Please do me a favor and don't responnd to this post as I am depressed enough and don't need any more S-T-R-E-S-S ! ! ! ! ! !

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    By the way folks. I almost forgot to mention. The only thing I can take for pain is NEURONTIN and ADVIL. I eat them like M&M's. I am allergic to everything else I have tried from my sweet caring doctors who put frozen ice boots on my foot and ankle 36 times at therapy.

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    Old 09-10-2003, 10:54 PM   #8
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    One Last Item and I'm Out of Here...

    A Stressful Personality. (links between personality, paranoia, and post-traumatic stress disorder)
    Author/s: Dr. Peter Rebhahn Phd.

    It was once called 'shell shock' or 'battle fatigue' because its symptoms were first identified in war veterans. But a new study suggests that, whether a veteran of combat or a victim of a traumatic accident or crime, your chances of facing the anxiety, depression and paranoia of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) may hinge as much on your personality as on your experience.
    Inge Bramsen, Ph.D., a psychologist at Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam, tested 572 men who participated in the United Nations Peacekeeping Force in the former Yugoslavia for PTSD. Men who reported seeing the highest number of stressful events--shootings or dead people, for example--showed the most severe symptoms. But those who rated highest on personality traits such as negativism and paranoia before deployment also tended to show more signs of PTSD later if they were personally involved in a traumatic event. A hostile person may see more personal menace in events than others do, says Bramsen. An anxious person may also cope with stressful situations less effectively.
    Bramsen believes that a better understanding of what causes PTSD might help to protect soldiers and others who get into harm's way. But "I think we will never be able to prevent PTSD," she says. "It is a normal reaction to an abnormal situation.



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    Old 09-11-2003, 04:07 AM   #9
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    Dear Bob,

    I am responding to your post, even though you may never see it, but I hope you do. You really are in a lot of pain, and thank you for taking time, and so much energy, to bring up these issues that are so important.

    I hope you read this post with the gentleness and caring with which it was written.

    I know everything we experience in life effects who we are and how we react physically and emotionally, and I can see from your posts how PTSD can have a serious impact on RSD.

    This is a really good place to share ideas and get ideas. Please don't be too harsh or paranoid if someone needs the dots connected a bit more clearly from time-to-time. The RSD experience is truly unique for everyone so no one else will be seeing it from anyone else's perspective.

    In the few months I've been here, I don't think anyone has brought up issues of PTSD or paranoia. But that certainly doesn't mean we are all ignorant of them. So please be patient with everyone in your explanations. I don't see that anyone was mocking you or rejecting your ideas: just asking for a little dot-connecting. I hope you do come back and share your thoughts on this. You may have to remember the paranoia from time-to-time, but you will also find you have more appreciating friends here than you realize.

     
    Old 09-11-2003, 06:47 AM   #10
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    Bob, I will explain my comment. Perhaps it was off the mark. I meant no harm. You had said once that you heard voices and I merely was being funny asking if it was you Bob or one of your voices. I truly apologize. Believe me, I did not mean any harm.

    However, I will not apologize for these next comments. Many of us on this board are very well aware of post traumatic stress. I am married to a Vietnam vet who suffered from this. I will not go into details as they are his personal story. He was decorated several times and that's enough said.

    Your other comments leave much to be desired. You obviously have a deep seated resentment for having this disease. However, lashing out at innocent people is totally uncalled for when I'm the one that caused this situation.

    My apologies to everyone on the board.

    I'm sorry, guys, I can't continue this post. I am just too angry. My hands are shaking. Post traumatic stress not only affects the individual involved but their families and spouse. It is a very sensitive subject to me and has not been brought up in many years.

    Rats, I better leave for now.....

     
    Old 09-11-2003, 07:00 AM   #11
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    Dayton
    No apologies necessary to me. You communicate very well and kindly and thoughtfully. And you make me smile. It must be getting near to a full moon because... Geeze.

    In another group I belong to we "share our experience strength and hope" and that's all I can do here. Its a good reminder that you can carry the message but not the person.

    Breath deep.

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    Old 09-11-2003, 08:05 AM   #12
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    Let me to intuduc myself sir. My name is Boomer, I gut thename when I was in nam. You have som problums boy. Wer yuo aver in nam? Yuo kann talk to me if yuo want to. i think i kno whut yuo ere giong thrugh. Yu talk of ther post stress stuf. wall let me tell yuo I kno all about it, I gut the sam thng frum nam in 68. Thesepeple on this buord site are too yung to rememmber and dont knomyur prblms.
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    Old 09-11-2003, 09:20 AM   #13
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    Well Bob,

    First of all, shame on you. How dare you treat people who are willing to support and help you in such an awfull way. I dont think asking for a clarification of the subject matter of a posting warrants such a harsh reply.

    If you think you are the first person to ever survive a horrible, near death accident and then spend the rest of their life living with pain, you are wrong. I am in the same boat. I am lucky to be alive, I almost died the day I aquired RSD. In fact, they were going to send the morgue's van instead of the ambulance to pick me up at the scene. It wasnt until I started moving again that an ambulance was called.

    I have noticed that many of your posts have a negative air about them. I dont have a problem with that, however, when you lash out at those who are trying to help you, that is when you cross the line.

    IF your paranoia is so strong that you percieve that a group of people on a board such as this, comprised of people whom never met you, dont know you and will never know you, are bent on "getting you" or "attacking you" then maybe you need to prioritize your personal health issues and seek help from a mental health board first. Then when you are equipped with the tools to communicate with others in a civil and helpful manner, seek out help and support from other boards such as the RSD board.

    I wish you all the best, and hope that you will find some relief. I honestly do. But I have dealt with enough negativity in the past year to last me a lifetime, and will no longer reply to your posts in an effort to support you as long as you feel justified to lash out at kind strangers who are only trying to help. The world is full of enough mean-spiritedness and negativity, one does not need it here.

    Good luck and goodbye.

    peace

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    The boy has problems. Hes stressed out and needs help.
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    Old 09-11-2003, 12:04 PM   #15
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    DITTO TERRY, DAYTON AND BOOMER


    Bob you need help, please go get it.


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