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    Old 02-18-2009, 04:40 PM   #1
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    Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    I'll tell you a bit about this to you dreams of neon. My dad has used this method on my younger brother and has worked for him very well. He goes through practically the same thing you are going through. My dad now wants me to see this ortho doc as well.

    What orthomelecular medicine is different from just taking meds is that the doctor looks at your diet and plans a knew strickly based on research that has shown that there are these certain vitamins that are good for mood or schizophrenic disorders. For example omega 3 fatty acids are one supplement that this doctor might prescribe. It is believed that this supplement helps with brain structure and helps to prevent neuron degeneration which is seen in schizophrenics and bipolar disorders.

    Vitamin B3 and C are also ones that they might prescribe.

    Schizophrenics are poor at filtering the influx of sensory information and this causes hallucinations. This means that there is an overstimulation of neurotransmitters in the prefrontal cortex. Vitamin B3 and vitamin C is believed to help with this. Its also helped with limiting the production and oxidation of excess catecholamines in the brain.

    Basically meds don't cure the disorder of whatever you might have, they just act as a band aid. Limiting the symptoms of the disorder. But by going on a planned diet by the orthomolecular psychiatrist it will actually kind of fix what might be causing the problem in the first pace. Meds don't do that.

    Its like saying antipsychotics work by screwing around with the levels of dopamine and putting them at the right amount for the patient thus limiting the symptoms of the disorder. But why are the dopamine levels screwed up in the first place. Thats what orthomolecular medicine looks at doing. Trying to figure out what is the actual problem that is causing the dopamine levels to be wacked and fixing it.

     
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    Old 02-20-2009, 06:54 PM   #2
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Did you take a look at this Dreams of Neon. What do you think of it?

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    That's really interesting. Thanks for sharing this infomation with me, under. I'm wondering if this could also have the potential to help me with my rapid cycling or is it only effective for psychosis? Even if it only treats psychosis, I'd still like to look into this further. I'm definitely going to ask my pdoc about this when I see him next month. Thanks again!
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Be careful when asking your psychiatrist. Some are totally against this method. Yes it can work for people with rapid cycling.

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Thanks so much for telling me this. It's encouraging to know that there is someone out there who may be able to help me get my rapid cycling under control. I've been unstable for 1.5 years and I'm looking for a way to change that because meds aren't doing anything to reduce my cycling. The counselor I spoke to doesn't think anything can help rapid cycling since it's a biological response. The only thing I wonder though is if insurance would pay for me to see 2 psychiatrists?
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Now my brother had an instant response to this orthomolecular strategy but it is not always going to be that way. It could take up to a year to get the full benefits. Unfortunatly not all people will actually benefit from this because the doctor might not be able to find a cause for why your dopamine levels are wacked. I wish you luck though.

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    How do I go about finding an orthomolecular psychiatrist? Should I ask my therapist? I tried looking on the Internet, but was unsuccessful.
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Yah there very rare to find we found one in Toronto. Where do you live, like country and state/province.

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    ask anyone you can a therapist, psychologist, psychiatrist, physician, pediatrician, neurologist, nutritionist, anyone you can.

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    I live in Wisconsin. I'm wondering if I could find someone in the greater Chicago area.
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Just curious but do you still care about this orthomolecular approach. (You would still be taking meds as well.) (Question for Dreams of Neon only)

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    under,

    Yes, I'm still interested. Even though the Clomazepam I just started taking seems to be helping with my rapid cycling I wouldn't be opposed to other ideas an orthomolecular psychiatrist might have.
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Don't worry if Clonazepam is working for you the ortho psychiatrist will not take you off it. But he will start you on a special sort of diet and supplements.Do you have an idea about what orthomolecular psychiatry is. Have you researched about it. I tried to post some good websites on the topic but the thread got deleted by the moderators. Now I'm afraid I cannot help you in your search for a naturopathic/orthomolecular doctor. All I can say is speack to professionals that may be able to refer you to one. It took us ages to find one. And the treatment can get expensive. Thx for replying.

     
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    Since treatment can be expensive and I only have Medicaid and Medicare, perhaps I'll stick with using Clonazepam and investigate the possibility of using CBT or DBT to better control my rapid cycling.
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    Re: Orthomolecular psychiatry.

    I know CBT is cognitive behavioual therapy but what is DBT?

     
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