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ccampb4 10-22-2001 12:26 PM

Question's about testosterone levels.......
I have a few questions about testosterone levels maybe someone can help me with. I am 26 and have had labido problems for the last 5 years(no problems with the equipment, just general lack of interest) I finally mustered up the courage to talk to a doctor about it 2 months ago. Turns out, they tested my blood for testosterone and it was low(178). She prescribed Androgel for me to take. I took it for about a month and then came back to check the blood levels again. Good news!!! It is up to 480!! Big change huh? I can tell a HUGE difference in my sex drive after being on it for a month.
I am now off of it again(3 weeks) and can tell you that without a doubt, that this stuff makes a big difference. The reason i've been off for 3 weeks is because my primary care dr. set me up to see a urologist(sp?) Anyway, I saw him and he asked that we do another test after being off for 3 weeks. So, tomorrow I go to have my blood tested again. This is where my question comes in.

Let's say it's back down to 178 again.....what then? Do I have to take this stuff forever? The only other problem I have is an elevated ALT in my liver(which by the way, the doctors can't figure out, I don't have hepititus or anything wrong with my liver that they can find) I'm not taking any other medication right now.....

Any thoughts?

Also, on a side note, I've done heavy free weight work-outs before and had really good gains.(no steroids or any type of supplements other than protein powders) With this additional testosterone in my body, should I see really good gains if I start back lifting? I guess a better question is what is the normal testosterone level for a male my age?

Sorry this is so longs....just looking for some answers............

orion 10-22-2001 06:45 PM

Re: Question's about testosterone levels.......
The most important thing you need to do is to discover why you have low testosterone. There are only a few reasons, and none of them are good at 26 (assuming you have never taken steroids). Either you have primary testicle failure which is not good if you want kids, or you have a pituitary problem which might be easy to fix or very serious (as in a brain tumor, which is rare).

Do you have any other symptoms like fatigue, irritable, hair loss, weight gain, dry skin, or vision problems.

Your elevated liver enzymes could be caused by your low testosterone, but more likely is caused by other hormones that are not at their correct levels. Definitely have your doctor do a blood level prolactin, TSH (thyroid), and cortisol.


ccampb4 10-24-2001 07:56 AM

Re: Question's about testosterone levels.......
Thank you for your reply...sorry it's taken me so long to respond.
Other symptoms...hmmm...let's see fatigue(which I think that is caused more by my lifestyle than other things..) I am irritable in the mornings <IMG SRC=""> I've always attributed it to not being a morning person. Hair loss....didn't think abou posting this earlier...but when I started with the Androgel I noticed a LOT of new hair growth all over my body...not sure what that means, but the urologist thought it was interesting.... Weigh gain is a negative...I gained almost 70 pounds about 5 years ago and have since lost about 50 of it(in the last year or so...changed my diet..stopped eating so much junk food) I've always had dry skin, and always had vision I don't think that is it...

If it were a brain tumor...wouldn't I have had some sort of problems by now?...remember, this problem has been around for about 5 years, I just never talked to anyone about it.

I know my dr. checked my thyroid...I'm not sure about the others...can you tell what they are and what they should be so I can ask?

Thank you so much for your help. My dr. and urologist aren't very proactive about information.....and I can't keep them there all day to ask questions.

orion 10-24-2001 10:27 AM

Re: Question's about testosterone levels.......
The hair growth is caused by your increased testosterone, it often means you are taking too much, and your doctor should know that, hmmmm.

The weight gain (you had it for 5 years, the weight loss now is only on account of changing things), irritible and fatigue are not normal and are signs of something wrong. People don't have fatigue from their life style, instead they have fatigue and so adopt a fatigue related lifestyle. When you are feeling tired all the time, its no fun to go out and look for things to do.

On the brain tumor thing, it took 10 years to find mine, so 5 years is not so long as you think.

Your doctor needs to find out WHY you have low testosterone and you must insist on it. It is probably not serious, but sometimes it is (heart disease, diabetes, tumors to name a few). I would have blood tests for prolactin, TSH, IGF-1, cortisol, LH, FSH, sugar and testosterone. If you have elevated prolactin, then you suspect the brain tumor thing. If you have high FSH and LH then you suspect primary testicle failure (you have to stop your testosterone gel for a few weeks before testing FSH and LH). If you have low thyroid or cortisol then you look for autoimmune disease, if IGF-1 is low/high then you suspect other pituitary problems. If your sugar is high, then you suspect diabetes. Remember the range of these hormones is very wide, but, if you are not near the middle, then you need to keep an eye on things and repeat the tests in a year to see if things are getting worse.

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