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    Old 02-01-2017, 03:55 PM   #1
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    Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    Hello everyone, I am a 24 year old male from Canada and I have been dealing with chronic shoulder pain for the last couple years on and off. Its kind of complicated to explain so here it goes.

    A couple years ago, I used to bench press with somewhat improper form. I used to bench too high (above the nipples) and it created some pain that would eventually go away. Eventually I had corrected that form, I try to keep the elbows in, I bring the bar below the chest, and try to retract my shoulder blades and use my delts more. Maybe I am still not doing this enough because I eventually developed a different type of shoulder pain. Around 6 months ago I did something stupid when doing tricep pull downs with the rope I felt a sharp pain so I stopped for a while.

    Now when I bench press or even do push ups, my anterior delts get extremely sore to the point where I can barely put my arms behind my back and the tops of my shoulders near the neck hurt when I shrug them down. This has become problematic when doing deadlifts now as well because the weight on the bar pulls the shoulders down and it is mainly the right shoulder. It seems like ever since that incident where I was injured from the pulldowns it has not gone away and continues to be affected when I bench press and deadlift. I'm thinking it could still be form related even though everyone says my form is good. I had stopped working out for around 6 weeks and my shoulders seemed to be better.

    Also, if I am lying in my bed and I hold my arms at a certain position and let them hang, my shoulders kind of lock out and a sharp pain occurs. This is the original injury that turned chronic. But my main concern is the top of my right shoulder after benching as well as deadlifting, and even push ups, which is very frustrating. I've been to the chiropractor and he helped a lot, just said it was some rotator cuff stuff and nothing major, but the pain continues when I do certain things. Not severe pain but extremely annoying and I feel it pretty much daily. Another thing is that ever since I did the tricep pull downs, sometimes after performing the bench press or deadlift I'll get a sharp pain at the top of my shoulder when squeezing my arm against my side. I'll also once in a while get a bruising type thing on the top of my right shoulder where it hurts to press on the right shoulder/trap near my neck.

    Sorry for the long post, just very frustrating and I would like to hear opinions. I've never been told to stop working out, I was told that it won't really get better but just to watch my form and its nothing serious. Its tough because I love powerlifting and it makes me feel great, but always feeling injured is a terrible and depressing feeling.

     
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    Old 02-01-2017, 07:57 PM   #2
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    Re: Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    Have you been to an orthopedic doctor who specializes in shoulders? If not, that should be your first stop. I believe in chiropractic but since this has gone on so long, you need to really see a doctor, get x-rays and MRI to see what is exactly wrong (as near as one can).

    I will say rotator cuff tear pain usually shows in the mid upper arm (weird I know). But you could also have torn other tendons or muscles in there.

     
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    Old 02-01-2017, 08:11 PM   #3
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    Re: Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    Thank you very much for your reply! I have not yet seen an ortho no. I'm just not sure if my family doctor would even refer me. I have a doctors appointment for the 8th of March, once I'm at the appointment I will tell her about my shoulders.

     
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    Old 02-02-2017, 05:38 PM   #4
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    Re: Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    Gyms are tough on shoulders. I started weightlifting and circuit training at the gym 25 years ago; nothing very heavy, usually on the machines at the gym. I regret ever using most of them. Only a very few are safe. I was told by a shoulder specialist never to do any weight training that lifted the arms above shoulder height.

    Once you get a rotator cuff tear or a labral tear, it will not heal if you continue to do the exercise that is irritating the injury. All my friends who have worked out for years at the gym now are suffering with bad arthritis, rotator cuff tears, labral tears and pain. The shoulder is a delicate joint with tendons and cartilage that get damaged easily.

    If I were you, I'd stop working out with weights totally until all your pain is gone, even if it takes a year. Let things heal while you're still young enough to do so. Then just do some exercises, such as those with pulleys, that don't irritate anything.

    That's what I would do if I had it all to do over.

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    Yeah, that sounds like the smartest plan. I just get so depressed when I'm not lifting weights and doing what I love to do, and I'm stubborn haha. It gets to the point when I'm not lifting weights I get really depressed and eat poorly, I know its all excuses but it just sucks not being able to do something you love. At least I should stop doing overhead and pressing exercises while I feel this, thanks for your reply.

     
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    Old 02-06-2017, 05:24 PM   #6
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    Re: Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    I was lifting heavy and was lifting a 45lb plate onto the squat rack and turned my arm the wrong way and injured what I thought was my forearm. Turned out it was my rotator cuff, I had spent a couple of years with pains on and off in what I thought was my delt but that was referred pain from impingement in my shoulder. Last August I had surgery and am working to be back to where I was before in terms of lifting. Right now 5lbs feels like 30lbs. I was told by my PT that the best way to do a chest press is on the floor so your elbows will only hit the floor and you aren't extending the peck cause trouble with your shoulder. The other thing I found I was doing was compensating for a weaker right side by hitching up that shoulder when lifting heavy. PT is great for developing strength in the rotator cuff muscles . Go see an Ortho and at the very least he can let you know what it is. I waited and tried to rehab what I thought was wrong and wasted 6 weeks of my time because my tear would not have healed on it's own.

     
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    Old 02-07-2017, 04:45 PM   #7
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    Damn, sorry to hear about your injury, that sounds awful. When I go to the chiropractor it feels good and helps a lot, also when I stop lifting weights for a long time it seems to go away a lot, but, whenever I bench press mainly or overhead press the pain comes back, it could be a form issue but I was told my form is good, maybe I am just not meant to do any presses with my shoulder at all for a long time. I would love to see an ortho, I'm just not sure my doctor would refer me to one. Physio I think I can get referred to, I have an appointment on the 8th of March.

     
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    Damn, sorry to hear about your injury, that sounds awful. When I go to the chiropractor it feels good and helps a lot, also when I stop lifting weights for a long time it seems to go away a lot, but, whenever I bench press mainly or overhead press the pain comes back, it could be a form issue but I was told my form is good, maybe I am just not meant to do any presses with my shoulder at all for a long time. I would love to see an ortho, I'm just not sure my doctor would refer me to one. Physio I think I can get referred to, I have an appointment on the 8th of March.
    PT can help to strengthen those rotator cuff muscles and help you learn how to really use your back vs your shoulder and traps. If you can't get an ortho referral perhaps your doc can do xrays/mri to make sure there isn't a tear. You say you have had this problem for a while I would want to make sure that there isn't something going on that won't heal on it's own.

     
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    Old 02-07-2017, 05:08 PM   #9
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    Re: Chronic shoulder/rotator cuff pain

    Yeah, I am going to discuss my options with my doctor, most likely I'll start physiotherapy I'm thinking.

     
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