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    Old 06-26-2004, 02:18 AM   #1
    shawngt2
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    Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    Hey people, I've been using Differin with sucess but now I look so pale. Does anyone know anything about getting some colour? Maybe a self tanner lotion or something to look a little more healthy? I miss my tanned skin! ;-)

     
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    Old 06-26-2004, 06:07 AM   #2
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    Re: Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    If I were you and wanted to tan I would go to a salon or whether you go, and just tan but cover your face with a towel or something for like 60-70% of the time, (or how much ever time you think is ok) and tan away. Since you're only on a topical retinoid, it should only affect your skin on your face, making it more vulnerable to sunlight, more vulnerable will mean get red quicker. You can probably walk down the street and tan on your face when you have retin-a, so just tan your body, because now that your face skin is sensitive, like 6 minutes of sun will do what like 20 minutes used to do.

     
    Old 06-26-2004, 04:09 PM   #3
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    Re: Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    I was once on Differin and then Retin A Micro a while later and I noticed that while on both, I would not get tan AT ALL anymore, my face would BURN! It was really horrible and that's why I went off all topicals/antibiotics that make you photosensitive (sensitive to the sun). I really think that both of them have changed my entire skin composition in a bad way because I get burned on my face so much easier now than I used to and I'm not even on anything since I've been clear for about half a year now. I would personally recommend something like ****** Tan or self tanners. Those spray on tan places are a little pricey (about $30 for one tan) but they look real and are much healthier. The real sun is so bad for you anyways. Who wants sun spots, sagging skin, wrinkles and even skin cancer in their future??? NOT ME!!! Especially after battling acne for a while..I don't want to have any more skin issues in the future.

     
    Old 06-26-2004, 04:27 PM   #4
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    Re: Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    Shawngt2 how long were you on differin before you noticed an improvement in your skin?Did you have an initial breakout when you started it?Ive been on differin gel now for 10 days and my skin is breaking out worse then it ever has.Guess ill be hiding inside again this year for the summer sighhhhhhhhhhh.Thanks for any info you can give .Oh you posted about a self tanner,have you ever used a self tanner called tan towels?I got some from the home shopping network,but havent tried them yet due to my face looking a mess.Maybe you might want to give them a try.Take care.

     
    Old 06-26-2004, 06:01 PM   #5
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    Re: Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    suzyshop,

    I'm going on day 10 also on Differin!!! I know and you know that it works because the initial flare which seemed to begin after 4 days of treatment is horrible. I'm also in the hiding stage of the treatment and it's hard enough to do groceries out there in public!

    The same exact thing happened when I was on Tazorac but there was a lot of redness and excessive peeling to go along with that which is why I stopped using it after I was clear hoping it wouldn't come back. Sooooo, after about a year it did come back slowly and decided to give Differin a try because I've heard it's milder and keeps people from stopping therapy after the condition has cleared. I'm very pleased with the results (minus the initial flare - but proof it's working) but just remember this.... It takes months for a lesion to form to the point that you see it a pimple.. it begins with the pore clogging overtime, getting irritated by the trapped bacteria and then what we call a damn pimple. So, your skin is purging itself and it really sucks... But, with retinoids after a few months and even years your skin will appear so healthy and clean looking when the marks fade. One big BONUS I have noticed after day 8 is that there were no new ones forming. They all seemed to come out at once and it was like they were coming even within hours. But, it's been a few days since anything has formed. I'm relieved to know that the skin is kind of done purging! But, I have the red marks that seem to be highlighted with this treatment.. But, I know they will fade overtime.

    Did you notice your skin really oily during the first 4-5 days? I thought the medication might have been making my pores overactive but it stopped so I would conclude that was due to oil (before hardening and clogging pores) was being allowed to move freely out of the pores due to the increased cell rejuvenation during the beginning of treatment. I also noticed a distinct 'sulphur' smell coming from my skin when I put warm-hot water on face before washing during those first few oily days of treatment. It's a HUGE sign!!! Gross, but awesome!!!!

    As much as people seem to knock Differin... I'm a strong believer. It may not work for everyone but it gets acne at it's beginning stages.. No antibacterial (what about people that live normal lives without having to bleach there faces with BP?) Think about it, it's common sense... If you read, scientifically, retinoid therapy gets it at it's source. Our DISORDER of pore skin lining cells incorrectly renewing themselves and building up with the oil. God I'm the most intelligent human being in the planet (sarcasm!) hehehe... All the BS going around about diet, about not touching your face, about taking excessive vitamins... Proactive!!! Sipping on margaritas in their mansions. All that... Just throw it out of your mind... What about people with poor diet, who touch their faces all the time? That seem to live life BORN with perfect skin? Exactly, BORN. We have a disorder and that's all it is, we have to learn to control it. So, for MY acne condition, which could be classified between mild and moderate, Retinoid therapy is the bomb. Major bonus also includes the real soft feeling your skin gets during treatment. The areas that I apply that don't have acne seems so healthy it's unreal to touch. Love it...

    My experiences have shown 10% benzoyl peroxide is excellent for surface acne (whiteheads, blackheads) but doesn't do sweet nothing for the smaller to larger cystic acne. I used it for years. Also, scrubbing your face with an exfoliant only seems to treat the same thing (surface acne) if not aggravate it and make it worse. You're somehow scraping the skin off with those 'small round microscrubbers' but need to realize a pore isn't shallow. It's deep and it's impossible to scrub away or disinfect the dead skin inside the hair follicle lining. They're excellent to kind of 'brush' dead skin from the surface to reveal healthy looking skin and that's all. Oh yeah and prevent mild surface acne. I don't know about you but surface acne isn't my main concern.. It's those big ones that are highlighted red and stick out much more than a little blackhead or whitehead that are developed deeper then the skins surface. I've read so much about this condition and just use common sense to gather information I think is relevant.

    I really hope this helps and at least brings one person (mild to moderate) to try this product... Just stick with it. I'm in no way saying that this will work for everyone. Just like differences in life.... there are many different cases of acne from extremely mild and not worth even mentioning to very severe which my heart goes out completely to those people and know how you must feel. But, I've learned to scrap a lot of BS information and just try to stick to the root cause for treatments.

    Sooooo.... Anyhow, take care ;->

    Shawn (27yrs)

    P.S. Please ask me anything, I'm more than happy to share experiences I have had with this condition.

     
    Old 06-26-2004, 06:48 PM   #6
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    Re: Topical Retinoid and Tanning

    You know shawn now that you mentioned it i did notice an increase in oilness,but no i havent noticed any odor.I do use a salicylic acid face wash,so maybe thats why im not experiencing any odor.I also get those pimples under the skin that swell up from time to time.Your post came at the right time,i was despairing about ready to throw in the towel.But im going to give it a go,are you using any oral medications?Im worried that i might have to be stuck in the house for the whole summer again.Im 47 so you think acne wouldnt be a problem for me.Yrs ago i used topical retin-a but all it did was make my skin red,and it never got to the root of the problem.At least i find with the differin if doesnt tear my skin up. Yes new ones for me also seemed to form within days of each other,i hope the initial breakout will be over soon.Thanks so much for posting to me.Lets keep our fingers crossed that differin is the answer for us.Please let me know how its going for you with the differin from time to time?Thanks so much.Take care.

     
    Old 06-26-2004, 11:34 PM   #7
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    Yeah Suzy stick with the treatment. I'm not using any stripping cleansers at all and only use a soap free cleanser bar from Neotrogena morning, mid day and at night before applying Differin. When I noticed the sulphur smell I started using Benzoyl Peroxide 10% and the smell was gone. I put it on after I wash in the morning but don't leave it on all day. No need too. Only use it if you notice whiteheads (signs that your skin is too oily and getting bacterial growth) BP works great to solve that problem. Try to be as gentle to your face as much as possible.. No picking... Nothing. Let it heal on it's own. Depending how clogged your pores were it may take longer for the inital flare to finish.. But, believe me you'll notice. I did...

    P.S. That's all I use... No pills.. That only temporarily solves the problem... Let your own immune system fight it off. Do you run to the doctors every time you have a cold? Why would you... so the pharmacies can make a good multi trillion dollars? Like I said before, think of it as cleaning your skin right now. It's gonna take a bit. But eventually you will create skin that prevents pore clogging and bacterial growth. Hope that helps!

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