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    Old 12-21-2005, 12:17 AM   #16
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    Re: La and Al's Accutane Support Group

    Hey everyone! I don't have much to report today. My skin isn't dry yet, and my headaches haven't come back. I'm doing very well so far, and I pray I will continue to do so. I love you all!

    Keep those posts coming!

    Hey La! Where have you been? I missed your post today. I hope all is well for you. Love you bunches!

     
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    Old 12-21-2005, 03:12 PM   #17
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    Alex, it is such a pleasure to welcome you aboard our support group! I hope we can be of help to you and offer some much needed comfort. About your hair loss fear, the above paragraph may offer you some products that could help you. If you do a search on the internet for like protein shampoo or conditioner, I'm sure you would get ample amount of results. Some shampoos and conditioners are specifically geared towards preventing hairloss or actually regrowing the hair. While these are mainly for our precious aging population, I'm sure these could suit your young life. Also, if you can get your hands on a vitamin called Biotin, then begin taking these as well. They make hair healthier and are quite accessible at your local Wal*Mart, or the equivalent in Europe. I wish I could help soothe your tender scalp. I'm not entirely sure what that could be. Did it begin soon after starting Accutane? I'm hoping another kind member of these boards will offer more advice to you. Let me know if it continues and I will research it to find possible causes.
    The tender scalp began about 8 days into my treatment. I had a friend have a look at it today and she confirmed that it was pretty inflamed towards the back of the scalp. Perhaps it's an infection and is merely a coincidence, but it's certainly odd. I'll give it a week and see what the situation is then, after that it'll be a trip to the Derm once again to perhaps get something to help.

    Thanks for all the advice, very much appreciated. On the subject of Biotin, I started taking that the day I started Accutane, so I've got that one covered.

    Thanks again!

     
    Old 12-21-2005, 10:08 PM   #18
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    Hello Alex!!! I may have some comforting news for you! I did a little research, and this is my conclusion - take it for what it's worth. I think it makes a little bit of sense. Ok, when a person begins Accutane, this powerful drug goes to work right away! One of the big effects it causes is definitely dryness. Dryness is closely associated with dandruff. Dandruff can in many cases cause the signs you write about. One factor that aggrivates dandruff is COLD, DRY weather. Not only are you, Alex, experiencing the dryness from your Accutane, but also the weather right now is adding to the drying effects by it being cold! These two factors may be escalating your already sensitive scalp. Did you follow all that? I hope so. Now continue to follow for just a minute. The reason I believe some people have hairloss on Accutane boils down to the dryness issue. In my research, I've discovered that this dry scalp leads to hairloss. It makes sense to me. My recommendation is to use 1% Nizoral Anti-Dandruff shampoo. This should soothe your scalp. Also, grab some Tea Tree Oil to rub onto your scalp. This may do more for it than even the shampoo. Lastly, grab some vitamin E gel caps. They are natural moisturizers and will work from the inside, out to compliment the effects of the shampoo and tea tree oil. Use the shampoo as directed on the bottle, then when you get out of the shower, rub a small amount of tea tree oil onto the infected area. Take 400 IU of Vitamin E three times a day. If you don't notice any improvement over the span of a week, then do see your dermatologist. I hope this helps you! Let us know your progress and if you have any other questions/concerns. It has been a pleasure! God bless!

    My update: I took my fifth 40 mg pill today. My skin actually looks a little better, but I'm still waiting on the big breakout. Maybe it won't come. My skin has a mind of its own. I'm not even dry or experiencing any side effects thus far. I'm still praying!

     
    Old 12-23-2005, 09:25 PM   #19
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    Hey Al! Goodness..it feels like a long time since I've been able to get on here and give my updates. With basketball and then coming down to see you and everyone else in Jasper, I've had no time. But I had an awesome time at Opryland and gettin' to see you!! Love you Al!

    Since I wasn't able to have my humidifier while i was out of town, I experienced more dryness than normal and had to moisturize my face three times, before it was somewhat free of dryness. Al, do you think that my face is still dry after moisturizing just because it's so cold outside and I'm on Accutane...or my moisturizer isn't strong enough? I'm using Dove Day Time Moisturizer...but if you aren't dry on your face at all, than maybe I should switch to the Cetaphil.

    I've almost come to the point where I can't go anywhere without some sort of lip moisturizer/chap stick. I've been lathering up all day, but haven't quite gotten to the point where my lips are severely chapped and peeling masively. ugh...no fun. I bought some aquaphor,but I can't seem to find it, so I'll probably have to go back to Walgreens and get some more.

    Also, I just checked and I've been on my Accutane for a week and 2 days, and surprising, my face appears to be reducing the amount of zits, instead of increasing. I know that the zits start popping up at an unbelievable pace between 2 and 3 weeks, but I'm hoping that since I am on my 2nd round of Accutane that the huge amount of zits that are expected to pop up isn't as big as I experienced during my 1st round of the medicine.

    As my process of my 2nd round of Accutane continues, I remember all of the side effects that I experienced during my 1st round of Accutane. After several months, I remember having blotches/scabs on my arms because my skin was so dry and ,therefore, I had to moisturize constantly. However, during this round, my elbows seems relatively dry compared to how they normally are. I don't remember my elbows ever being dry during my 1st round. I'm also hoping that knowing that fatty foods helps Accutane work better will help my 2nd round be more successful than the 1st.

    I just pray that this round will be successful and the LAST time I'll ever have to use Accutane or any other acne treatment. I constantly have to tell myself that I would rather be miserable with acne for five months, than miserable with acne for the rest of my life. It'll all be over soon!!

     
    Old 12-24-2005, 10:52 PM   #20
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    Hey La and all!!!! La, you know I was so tired when we got back, that I forgot to tell you bye! I was so out of it that I just jumped in my car. I'm so sorry.

    Anyway, my skin seems to be doing better since starting the Accutane, but after I read your last post, La, I'm a little cautious. I saw that I'm supposed to begin breaking out at the 2 or 3 week mark. Oh no! Oh well, bring them on. They are being killed! I'm STILL not dry. Maybe I'm doing something right.

    La, I have actually been using the Proactive moisturizer. It's been sitting in my bathroom not being used for a while, so I decided to give it a try. It has been working rather well for me. I still wash with Cetaphil. The cold, dry weather may have something to do with your face being so dry, but wouldn't mine be the same as well since I'm experiencing cold weather, too? I've been drinking water and taking vitamin E everyday, so maybe you should add the vitamin into your routine. I hope you get a routine that works well for you.

    Alex, I told you wrong. Take vitamin E ONCE a day at 400 IU...not three times a day. I'm so sorry about that.

    Folks, my face should really be something to write about in 6 days. I will be taking 80 mg a day. I'm expecting to have much more detail and questions to write about.

    I hope everyone has a very safe and happy holiday season! God bless you all!

    Scripture of the day: Ephesians 6:11

     
    Old 12-26-2005, 05:51 AM   #21
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    Re: La and Al's Accutane Support Group

    Hi everyone! My name is Erin and I started Amnesteem on Dec 5... Lots of talk about dosage, so I'll share mine - 40mg in the morning, 20mg at bedtime. (I'm 5'7" and weigh 135 lbs) It doesn't sound like my derm plans to adjust my dosage in the future, nor did I start out at a lower dosage, so I was surprised to hear that so many of you are doing that. I am 34 years old, and just now taking the plunge into the accutane pool. And for those of you who think zits clear up as you get older... not necessarily!! Mine's actually gotten worse in some ways. And it's SO hormonal - I cleared up COMPLETELY both times I was pregnant. Crazy.
    Anyway, I have some questions. First of all, is it ok to use moisturizers and wear makeup? Do they interfere with the efficacy of the medicine? Also, I'm curious since this is a 6 month process, at what point do you stop getting the worst of your acne? I'd almost say it's happened already (3 weeks in), but I've been burned before by my face, which has a mind of its own. Just when you think you've turned a corner - wham! The biggest cyst you've ever seen - to the point where half my forehead is swelled up like I bumped my head.
    Keep the suggestions coming on moisturizers and cleansers too....

     
    Old 12-26-2005, 07:02 PM   #22
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    Hi there! My name is suzzane (or suzy, in case you couldnt tell already by my user name) and im 20 years old, and last december-may i went on accutane. My experience was rather rocky... but worth every bit of trouble in the end because my face was PERFECT and the side effects quickly wore off after i stopped taking the medicine. ok so first of all, i started taking it because i was having breakouts on my face and back, and then while i was taking it i broke out until the 3rd month and then WHAM! my face was totally clear!!

    oh for whoever was saying that they have a hard time not picking at their zits, for the love of god if you want to avoid what i went through on accutane DONT PICK AT YOUR FACE!!! i have such a hard time not picking at my zits and because of that, and since being on accutane your face tends to break out more, i had these huge scabs all over my face it was just awful. then, i tried using la mer moisturizer and it was heaven sent! it cleared up my face while on accutane within a week, and the scabs all healed up nicely, and it was keeping a hold of the dryness that i was experiencing. it was rather pricey (about $100 for a bottle of the stuff) but well worth it. anyway, now i've been off of it since may and my face has been breaking out mildly since but to the point where it's frustrating, and now my chest is breaking out! my back is 100% perfectly clear so at least it worked with that. anyway, i want to go on it again but i am so scared because last time the only side effect i experienced (but rather major one) was depression. not mental depression like "oh i hate my life..." but the physical depression, where all i wanted to do was sleep and i had ZERO motivation.

    has anyone else experienced this? or, if not, does anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent the depression that comes with accutane? because i have the mcats coming up in april so i cant afford to have no motivation, but i really wanted to start taking accutane again because it worked like a dream come true for me and im hoping a 2nd round would really do the trick.

    also, (i think it was Al who wanted to do the laser treatment to even out your skin...) when i was on accutane i kept getting chemical peels. my derm is really great but she likes to go outside the box alot, if you will, and still thought we should try to do mild peels. hey im not complaining though because it really helped with my skin and evening out the redness and fading the scars from previous acne. also i was very surprised that it didnt scald my face off haha i was just fine! i doubt your derms would let you do this, as most derms are against it, but after being on accutane i would highly suggest doing a round of chemical peels and facials (i've seen that photo facial thing you're talking about on E! and it sounded really great, if you get any info on it you should definitely post it). i've also tried microdermabrasion and didn't like it at all, it didnt make a difference and i blew like $600 on it...

     
    Old 12-26-2005, 10:07 PM   #23
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    Hey Al and All!

    I haven't really experienced much difference since I posted the other day. My face is still dry, my lips are still chapped,and I'm still amazed that my acne seems to be clearing up rather than breaking out more. I haven't reached that 2 to 3 week period,but I'm completley prepared for my face to go from improving to bam! zits galore..hopefully that will NOT be the case. As to my moisturizer, I think I'm going to go to the drugstore soon and try the Cetaphil moisturizer since I've seen that many Accutane patients use it. My Dove moisturizer is great when it's not winter and when I'm not on Accutane and completely dried out,but right now...it's not workin'. I did switch from my Neutrogena face wash to the Cetaphil face wash. I like the Cetaphil better because it doesn't feel like my face is shriveling up after I wash my face and it also makes my skin feel softer.

    Al...I'll probably look into getting some Vitamin E pills since you aren't experiencing any dryness on your face. Now if only I could get some ProActiv moisturizer lol. I think there might be a ProActiv stand in our mall, and maybe they have it!! I might check that out next time I'm at the mall...I know that you were tired after we got back from opryland. I only sat in my car and cried because you did not say good bye... lol just kidding! i was so tired too...and i had to drive 2 hrs back to k-town the next morning and go to dollywood w/ the fam. lol. but i hope i get to see you soon!! before we go get those facials! Love u!!

    Erin... Yeah the whole thing about acne being hormonal drives me crazy! My derm. said that i probably have stronger hormones obviously cause my acne will never completely go away and also because i had to go on birth control for irregular mentrual cycles. But fortunately i've been regual without the birth control for several months now, so maybe my hormones have calmed down a bit. The moisturizer and makeup thing is completely okay. If it weren't for moisturizer I don't know what i'd do! I use Neutrogena make up because it doesn't clog your pores and it helps clear up the acne. During my 1st round of Accutane, my derm. asked me what make up i was using and I told her Neutrogena and she said that Neutrogena was good. So I only use Neutrogena when it comes to foundation, concealer, and powder. I also use a loose powder because I read in a magazine that did a special about "Covering up Acne" that loose powder helps the make up proportion more evenly and covers up the zits well. Many derm. recommend the line of make up products that might be offered at your dermotologist's office, but the Neutrogena is a great make up especially when you have acne.
    In most Accutane cases the severe acne is supposed to start up around the 2nd or 3rd week,like you've already said, and it usually lasts til the 3rd month. After the 3rd month, your acne should start decreasing as the days go on and appear less and less. During my first round of Accutane, I was not at the point where my Derm. thought I should be and my acne did not start clearing up until around the 5th and 6th month(my body was slow to respond, so my treatment was extended) and eventually was completely gone about a month after I had ended my Accutane treatment. If you didn't read my very first post, my acne was gone for about 5 months and then appeared about this past Sept., so that's why I'm on my 2nd round of Accutane. Best of luck to you, and if you have any more questions...ask away!

    Hey Suzy...when I was on Accutane my first round, i had PLENTY of side effects and do remember feeling less energetic and motivated probably because at one point i was doing 60 mg alternating with 80 mg. I'd def. go on the accutane for a 2nd round and mention the depression thing to your derm. Maybe she'll lower the dosage so you won't have depression and the treatment will still be as effective even though the dosage is lower. From what i read, most of your acne is gone from your first treatment..as in my case on my back and chest...and a higher dosage won't be required, and you won't experience depression. I might look into that chemical peel treatment and ask my derm. what she thinks about it. I completely trust my derm. with her opinion on things, so hopefully she'll give me good/affordable options to get rid of red marks and scars when I'm done w/ my 2nd round. I def. learned from my 1st round that picking at pimples is a HORRIBLE idea and it only slows down the process, so this time round, i've been better at picking at pimples and only popping the ones that are about to explode. Thanks for your post about your experience and recommendations about getting rid of the marks and scars...and if you decide to go with a 2nd round...best of luck to you!!

    Good luck to everyone! Keep your heads up and don't get pessimistic about this process! We're all in this together!!

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    Old 12-28-2005, 10:41 AM   #24
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    Suzy - I just have to echo your sentiments about microdermabrasion - TOTAL waste of money!!! I did it too - it cost $125/session and I did it 4 times, so I blew $500 bucks total. Oh well, live and learn, and hopefully we'll save some other readers from wasting their $.

    And La - thanks for the response and the info on the makeup. I'd die if I couldn't wear any!

    Hey - did any of you experience sores on your gums or inside your mouth? I have little canker-sore-like sores or "cuts" on the inside of my mouth lately and not sure if the accutane has caused or contributed to them. Might just be all the bad food I've been eating over the holidays.

    Also, just fyi, I found a sample size thing of that Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturizer in my linen closet yesterday and decided to give it a try... I'm not sure how it stacks up to other products, but compared to what I was using (DDF - Moisture Dew) it is SO much better!

     
    Old 12-28-2005, 07:10 PM   #25
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    Yes using makeup is ok, I was also scared to use it, but I cleared up using Revlon colorstay everyday.

    I think you MUST use moisturizing. I don't know how much I can stress that. PLEASE use it. Some days my skin was so dry that I had flakes all over my face.
    It was embarrasing.

    I also experienced those initial breakouts. They were not easy at all. One day my skin was almost clear and next day (literally, next day) I woke up with 8 big bumps on my face. It's the hardest part of the treatment, but it usually only last 1-3 months, so stay strong!!!

     
    Old 12-30-2005, 11:34 AM   #26
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    Hey everyone! I'm sorry it has been so long since I've posted. It's just that I haven't experienced any differences yet, but since others have posted and asked questions, I will be happy to answer them to the best of my ability. (Oh, I began my 80mg a day yesterday, so I should be seeing some changes soon, hopefully for the best.)


    Erin (hello and welcome!), I, too, understand the hormonal imbalance that causes the dreaded acne. I've been to an Endocrinologist, but he said my hormones were all normal. Who knows? Maybe it's something else in my body causing the acne. I do know that after my course of Accutane, I'm going to do a full body cleanse to rid myself of any toxins that may be built up in me, and to get rid of the Accutane in my system. As for the moisturizers and makeup, neither interfere with the efficacy of the medicine. PLEASE moisturize your face. A face heals better when it is moisturized, so please don't skip the hydration! Also, drink tons of water. I would recommend 10 glasses of distilled water daily. I use bare minerals makeup and I love it. It provides excellent coverage and when paired with bare minerals "warmth," it can add a healthy glow to your face. "True" also adds a nice shimmery, rosey glow. I don't know, hun, about the point at which the terrible acne is finished. I've read other posts that suggest the third month is the final "coming out" month, and the healing process begins. As far as cleansers, Cetaphil hasn't let me down. It doesn't dry out my skin, and it is highly effective at removing makeup...even my waterproof mascara! It is very gentle. I would love to try that Creme de La Mer moisturizer, but it is so expensive! I've read great reviews about it, but others say the less expensive lotions work just as well. I hope I've helped a little. I appreciate your post, and I hope to have more from you! God bless you in this whole process.


    Hey there little miss Suzy! Welcome to our support group! I'm so sorry you experienced such lethargy! I would go on a second round, though, because the second time may be a little easier on you. Try to go for a walk outside, or do some kind of physical, but not stressful, activity to keep your mind and body fresh. This may help you feel more energetic. Also, eat healthier foods (but stay away from extra vitamin A). Try not to think about taking Accutane, either. Just try to block it out of your mind that you take it. Like, take your pill and immediately go do something else. I really do believe if a person allows themselves to dwell upon the fact he/she takes it, it will mess with his/her mind to almost cause some of these side effects. I'm not saying to ignore persistent signs or symptoms. By all means, tell the derm. of any concerns! Just to help ease the mind and body, though, treat taking the Accutane like taking Tylenol or some other drug. I hope this makes sense. If not, feel free to let me know. I'm sorry I haven't helped very much. If I can think of anything else, I'll definitely post it. Oh, you may want to look into certain vitamins to increase energy....VITAMINS...not like caffeine pills or redbull after redbull . God bless, you as well in your decision and the entire process! We welcome your posts.

    Oh, and Erin, yes, I have experienced sores in my mouth. Around my lips on the inside has been peeling and feeling unusually rough. I slept with Aquaphor inside my mouth, though, and the next morning, the roughness was gone and I only experience mild dryness there now. (My tongue is very dry, though .)

    La, how are you? I hope the process is going well for you! I miss you. Hay and I were just talking about you. I'm here at Freed visiting the Maddox family. I love you, and thanks for helping keep this support group going! God bless you, too!!!

    All posts are welcome, so keep them coming. We are here to support and encourage everyone! We are all in this together. No one is alone!

     
    Old 12-30-2005, 11:41 AM   #27
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    Oh! I forgot to put the Scripture of the day! It is 1 Peter 4:9

     
    Old 12-31-2005, 04:18 PM   #28
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    Hey Al and everyone else!! I'm up here in Indiana at my aunt and uncle's house for New Years, so I hope that you all have a wonderful new year's tomorrow!!

    Al...yeah, I was wondering why you hadn't posted in a while and that's awesome that you were at Freed...and u and hay thinkin' about me, lol. I think about you all constantly, lol.

    Alright...well, I haven't really experienced any major changes lately. I did go to Walgreen's when I was in k-town a couple of days ago and bought Cetaphil moisturizer, Vitamin E, and a humidifier that puts out a light, cold mist. I had spent the night at my friend, Heather's, house the previous night and she's on Accutane as well and has the humidifier with a light mist and I loved it!! Especially when your nose is dry, then I just stick my face in the mist and breathe in. It's great, lol. But my face has def. improved on the dryness factor. I'm not dry at all on my face. Probably because of all the new products I just bought. I can tell a huge difference when I use the Cetaphil products, too. Oh Al, what is the I.U. on your Vitamin E? I bought the 200 I.U. and there was also a 400 and a 1200 to choose from, but I just got the 200.

    I'm past the 2 week period of starting Accutane this past Wednesday. I haven't noticed a huge breakout, so i'm really thankful for that...but I could unexpectedly break out at any moment!! Ahh!! You can't really be surprised about anything on Accutane. But my hair has gotten less oily and I'm only washing it every other day so my head won't get dry. That's my fav. thing about being on Accutane..you don't have to wash your hair every day!! Right Al?? lol.
    Oh yeah..my nose and chin have way less blackheads than what I used to have. I remember on my 1st round of the med. my nose would be completely free of black heads and my nose would sweat because it was so clear. It was weird, but it felt good to not have any blackheads. Hopefully they won't come back during the rest of my treatment!

    Alright, well that's about all the changes that I've experienced lately. I hope everyone has a Happy New Year!! I'll talk to you soon Al! Love you!!

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    Old 01-07-2006, 08:21 PM   #29
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    Hey Al! I haven't seen you on here in awhile, I guess you haven't had any changes lately or been busy with ETSU. that's soo exciting, you'll have to tell me all about it and MAYBE i can come up and see u once u get settled! whoohoo... But I hope to read and hear from you soon! Love you!!

    Okay, well I went to the derm. this past Tuesday for that monthly check up. She increased my dosage from 60 mg to 80 mg every day and said that I was doing well. I never experienced that 2-3 week HUGE breakout that the derm. warns you about and that I went through my 1st round of Accutane, so I was really excited about that. I just hope I don't jinx myself and wake up in the morning with a crazy acne face. But anyways...Al, I asked my derm. about taking Vitamin E...just to be on the safe side and my dad said to ask,also..and she said that was completely fine to take with Accutane and she likes Vitamin E, so I've continued to take it and I def. think it's helped with the dryness.
    My lips are really chapped, they haven't started peeling, but just sitting here right now, they're irritating cause i don't have any chapstick or Aquaphor on them. Oh, my arms are really dry also. Not like flaky but I have these dry blotches of skin that sorta look like scabs but aren't noticeable unless you're like super close. So I'm having to lotion my arms and legs every morning so I'm not itching and my arms won't be so blotchy. My hair is less oily like I said in my last reply, and that's my fav. thing about Accutane! lol, sorta sad, but it's great not having to wash your hair every day. I get to sleep in an extra 25 min. every other day.
    Since changing from Neutrogena face wash with Dove moisturizer and a humidifier that doesn't create a mist in the air (i don't know how else to refer to it lol) my face is WAY less dry then it used to be. I barely have dry skin on my face and i LOVE the Cetaphil products. So just so everyone knows, CETAPHIL FACE CLEANSERS AND MOISTURIZERS ARE GREAT. And the mist humidifier from Walgreens is awesome too. Sometimes I just put my face in the humidifier so my nose can get moist since it gets soo dry from the med. I hate waking up every morning and having to blow for like 5 min. cause it's so dry.
    Okay, well so far so good with the Accutane. I'm really excited that my skin is looking a lot better and no breakouts. Hopefully I will continue at this pace and be completely clear really soon. I'm not self conscious about my acne on my face like I was about 1 1/2 months ago. It's awesome to not have to worry about people seeing your face and being like..dang she's got some acne. That's pretty exciting.
    Alright, well Al, you best be getting on here soon and posting some sort of reply or I'll have to call or text you and fuss a lil. love u and i hope that you're doing well and everyone else too!! Keep your head up.

     
    Old 01-16-2006, 10:00 AM   #30
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    I went on accutane last week and have a quick question. While you are taking accutane should you avoid vitamin a in foods (says there is something like 20% of DV on the label) or is it no big deal to take in a little bit of vitamin a?

     
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