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    Old 10-09-2006, 06:45 AM   #16
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    Hmmm, that's interesting, ICC, because once my major anxiety subsided, I found the 15mg dose to be extremely sedating. After months of on and off insomnia, I was sleeping 10 hours a night and still waking up exhausted. That's the main reason I decided to stop taking it. I also didn't feel like it helped with depression at all at that dosage. However, it probably did curb some of my anxiety. I was depressed on it and I'm even more depressed off it. What to do? I feel like anxiousinnj does. If your depression is partly to mostly situational, how on earth is a pill going to help? It's not going to take the situations away. Oh, but no weight gain for me either, although I do suspect it either slowed my metabolism or caused me to retain fluid because I maintained my weight while on it despite eating less than normal. Keep me posted on your progress. I'm still mulling the idea of calling my doc and asking to be put back on it, perhaps at a bit higher dose. I've heard that sometimes lessens the sedative effects. I'm not sure I gave it enough time to work properly on me. Glad to hear you've had immediate results with it.

     
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    Old 10-09-2006, 10:49 AM   #17
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    hi all----i agree that if depression/anxiety is situational a pill won't help. in my case since i suffer from both and also have PTSD i couldn't think straight to change anything goin on with all of my problems right now. too many. though in my case it is situational the remeron has helped me think more like myself. i couldn't make a desion for months for anything. i still get upset and some of what going on but not half as bad as before. i feel a little down late in the day but it passes quickly. i just feel more like me now.

     
    Old 10-09-2006, 04:09 PM   #18
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    Well, my p-doc is on vacation so unable to reach her. Wonderful...
    I am having severe back pain & spasms that believe me feel like 20 minute labor pains. I'm going to a pain management doc on Thursday but I wanted to ask my primary doc if she could order me a muscle relaxant or something to help these spasms-- it's unbearable !
    I wanted to ask my p-doc what I can or can't take with Remeron & Buspar-- God I hate taking all these meds & now needing more for pain.....
    Has anyone taken any other pain or muscle relaxant meds with anti depressants & anti anxiety meds ?

    This is like a bad dream.....

     
    Old 10-10-2006, 05:44 AM   #19
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    anxiousinnj------i just started remeraon a week ago. have a long list of meds i take regularly. also was injured at work so i do take flexeril and tylenol3 for pain. i don't like the effect pain killers have on me and also they don't work well for me but will take them if the pain is really bad. asked the phsychiatrist if i could take the pain meds and a klonopin if needed and he said yes. also asked the pharmacist when i picked the remeron up if there were any drug interactions and he said no. i wish you luck. the remeron has really stabilized my mood.

     
    Old 10-10-2006, 07:50 AM   #20
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    Thanks ICC- that's a big help. I have problems with pain meds also-- they make me sick. But was hoping a muscle relaxer type med like the flexeril or skelaxin might help.

    I'm trying to look at the whole picture here & I suppose if I didn't have this back stuff thrown at me, maybe I would be in a better frame of mind-- I'm just really frightened as I was told I need fusion at at least 3 levels. I know I cannot tolerate surgery like that right now. A silly lap chole threw me into major panic attacks last spring !
    HOPing for the best with pain management so I can buy some time & get my mind in a better place, if that's possible...

    thanks for your help !

     
    Old 10-10-2006, 11:32 AM   #21
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    anxiousinnj--------any time. i have multiple surgeries looking me in the face right now. that's what brought my depression on in the first place. messed up neck, shoulder impingement, DDD and 4 bulged disks in lumbar and a bad tendonitis in ankle. so i can't walk, sit , lay, or use my left arm. in the meantime i started having trouble swalloing. thyroid biopsy was benign but surgeon still thinks it should come out if it's pressing on a nerve and that could be the swallowing dilemna but he isn't sure. have a large bon spur in my neck that could also be the problem. 8 dr.s in 6 mos and no one will commit to anything. it was my decision to go into counseling and on some sort of med because i couldn't get through a day without crying, couldn't go out alone, driving made me borderline nervous breakdown. i'm sure you know the rest as you are in a similar position. i feel i have to do whatever it takes to heal mind and body. best of luck in your journey.

     
    Old 10-10-2006, 08:12 PM   #22
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    Re: Remeron anyone?

    Hi: I am usually over in the Depression area but tend to pop over here every once in a while. I have been On Remeron a year next month at 60mg. I also take a lot of other meds such as Effexor, Zyprexa, Lithium,Trazodone. I have Severe Major Depression Disorder with psycotic features, GAD, and sleeping issues. The Remeron does not do anything for sleep as I still have to take a sleeping med mind you I do sleep over 12 hours a night but that is probaly caused by the depression. Weight gain is a factor and I have found the only key is to take it right before bed and that seems to lessen the sugar desires.

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    Old 10-11-2006, 06:07 AM   #23
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    trg247----thanks a million. so far so good with the remeron. still not sleeping great everynight but a couple of nights a week i sleep better than others. my husband told me after a couple of days that he was glad to see me again. remeron has really helped stabilize my mood and brought me back to being me.

     
    Old 10-11-2006, 10:28 PM   #24
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    Hi trg-- it doesn't matter that I take the Remeron right before bed-- I have sugar cravings all day, but am working on how to control it.
    You are on 60 mgm huh? Maybe I should go back to the 30 mgm. I have so much anxiety thorughout the day- even with the Buspar.
    My p-doc's covering doc called me back as I had left a message to see what types of pain meds would be ok. She was very nice-- told me it can take 2-3 months for Buspar to become effective- so maybe I need to give this med thing more time. I started on the Buspar mid August.

    ICC- I'm sorry you are going through so much ....and yes I can totally relate.
    When I had the gallbladder out in april I got sicker & sicker-- had every test imaginable, ER trips & now they all have me pegged as a nut case. The pain in my side never went away & I just got more & more frightened & exhausted-- anxiety /panic big time. I was even put in the hospital in May for a few days for some work ups-- thats when the panic really kicked in- I was crawling out of my skin. It continued when I came home & I was afraid to be alone-- driving was not even an option- was a total mess, still in pain with no answers. So I agreed to go to a p-doc as I knew I needed help handling whatever was wrong, thus the meds.
    Fasr forward to now-- back out of whack-- 3 more new docs- most likely the gall bladder pain was not the gall bladder but coming from my spine mess.
    Health stuff can wear you down .
    Wen the doc last week said I defiitely needed fusions at at least 3 lrvrls I truly thought I was having a nervous breakdown. I couldn't handle the little gall bladder surgery-- 3 fusions would mean majopr surgery & major recovery time-- I know I cannot handle that. Saw a doc today who feels with aggressive PT I should not need surgery-- time will tell I guess.

    I hope you are feeling better.
    What dose of Remeron are you on at this point? And do you take anything right now for anxiety ?

     
    Old 10-12-2006, 05:36 AM   #25
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    anxiousinn i thought we had similar stories. you are so right about the health issues. that's what finally made me whacko. too many all at once and no answers. i take 15 mg. of remeronabout 10:00 p.m. it has truly stabilized my mood but i still don't sleep great. i did last night but i think it's because i took a klonopin with it. don't see the dr. until oct 31st so i won't know until then if he'll up it. so far my weight is either the same or 4 pounds under. can you believe that? i always gain on these drugs. have had a couple of very mild anxiety moments but it was becasue something happened to bring it on and it went away within minutes instead of lasting endlessly. I took buspar years ago. from what i remember it's very subtle and did take awhile to kick in. had no side effects to it. buspar and klonopin are probably the only 2 drugs i have taken for depression/anxiety that worked for me and gave me no side effects. i have 3 dr. involved with my work injuries. probably need shoulder surgery first. when the spine specialist even mentions surgery on my neck i panic and run. will try everything and anything before i have it done if i have it done.

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    Old 10-12-2006, 09:08 PM   #26
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    ICC-- I wanted to give you a hug, here you go (( ICC)). I read on the other thread about your losses & I"m so sorry.
    YOU have "earned " your anxiety, which I know sounds crazy- but I mean you have real reason for it- post traumatic stuff.

    I think health issues & family deaths, particularly unexpected as you have had cause tremendous legitimate fear. And we struggle to be free of fear & pain & when we can't, thus anxiety/panic-- loss of control......oh it all stinks !

    On the Remeron-- 15 mgm is low, you will probably have it upped to 30 which is considered the minimum effective dose. I was put back down to 22.5 because I had major constipation & felt sedated through the day at 30 mgm. I do not feel sedated during the day on the 22.5 mgm which I take at night & sleep straight through.

    I don't know , I still think I just need an anxiety med, not an antidepressant- if I wasn't panicked I wouldn't be depressed. But it seems they like to put you on these antidepressants...I still have a lot to learn !

    Anxiousagain-- have you gone back on the Remeron yet ??

     
    Old 10-13-2006, 05:25 AM   #27
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    anxiousinnj-------i'm sorry but sometimes my mind can't remember anything. i know you're taking buspar now. did the remeron help? i've noticed the past two nights i took a klonopin about an hour before the remeron and i have slept soudly for a good 7-8 hours which is so odd for me. i'm assuming the dr. will up the dosage and hope since i have no adverse side effects now that i don't start to at a higher dosage. appetite is normal, still have a little anxiety at times but it's only when something has happened to upset me. goes away in a few minutes and is not constant as it was. you know iwish you the best. thank you for your kind words of support. life has not been easy and i have always been able to go on in the best way i could. the past 6 months have really beaten me. it a combo of a long list for the past 10 years that have finally come together and whipped my butt. i'm sure i'll come out of this too but a different person which is ok as long as i still like me.

     
    Old 10-13-2006, 07:54 AM   #28
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    Hi Kate,

    No, I have stubbornly resisted the Remeron but am thinking about calling my doctor and asking to be put back on it as I write this. I just have not been doing well at all lately, but unfortunately it's mostly situational. I just got a call from my cousin, saying that they were taking my aunt to ICU (she has leukemia and took a turn for the worse this week). So, it appears as though I may very well be dealing with the loss of a third close family member very shortly. I don't think ADs are designed to help in my kind of situation, but I'm a wreck. I wake up with morning panic every morning. I still struggle to eat every day because I have all-day nausea (although miraculously I have not lost any weight) and I'm trying to hold myself together as best I can to help my cousins (who are losing their mom on top of our other recent family losses) as much as I can. I feel helpless, hopeless and self-absorbed. Anxiety makes you focus on yourself when you should be focusing on other people and I hate that. If I thought the Remeron would help my situation I'd be on the phone in a heartbeat.

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    Old 10-13-2006, 09:03 AM   #29
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    anxiousagain------i have to agree. depends on what is bringing on the anxiety and depression. i ahve suffered so many losses as you have. i don't feel anything but time has healed those wounds. through all of the grief i have never taken anything that worked. my prayers are with you.

     
    Old 10-13-2006, 05:05 PM   #30
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    Kathy(ansiousagain),

    Well, here's m,y 2 cents worth- you didn't have anynegative effects from the Remeron right? And...you really never got up to that minimum recomended dose of 30 mgm right? And you really didn't have a hard time coming off it when you stopped right?
    So, I say give it another try & get up to the 30 mgm & stay there for a month. Listen to me giving advice when I'm a mess myself. It's easier to analyze others than yourself I guess.

    NO, I don't think it will make everything you're going through easy- but it will probably take the top[ off that edge - specifically the morning panic. Whenever I really think it has done nothing for me I have to stop & remember that morning panic-- it is horrible. I used to wake up in terror ! I'd feel like "oh no-- I don't want to be awake again". That did stop after I started the Remeron-- if I remember right it was just a few weeks. I kow it was before the Buspar was added, so the Remeron must have helped that. My anxiety creeps in through the day-- like twinges.
    I think you should try it-- what you are going through now is only going to exacerbate the anxiety. And, you know you can take a Xanax if you get increased anxiety that first week or two-- which I don't think you got last time. PLus if anything it will keep you from losing weight--I know it didn't do wonders for your appetite, but you weren't on it long enough & at high enough dose.
    Don't try to sweat this out on your own- I am working hard on the stubborn thing too !
    I split my Buspar into 7.5 mgm doses thinking I just don't want lots of all this stuff in my system.

    ICC- yes I'm taking Buspar 7.5 mgm 3-4 times througout the day. When I take 15 mgm at once I feel way too weird for an hour or so, then anxiety would creep in. I thought by splitting the dose up & taking 3-4 times per day I won't get that initial weird feeling & maybe the anxiety will stay away. But I am still getting breakthrough anxiety. But I think it is all do my pain & fear of my health problems - fear of being disabled with this back mess. Afraid of more pain & not being able to handle it & going crazy. Afraid of not being able to work & being in worse financial messes than I already am & leaving a mess to my kids-- on and on and on....mostly just afraid of not being able to live life anymore. Yeah, I think this has to be depression-- certainly isn't normal !
    Oh well- here's hoping we all have an anxiety free weekend !

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