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    Old 04-05-2007, 06:14 PM   #16
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    Re: For the people who know ferritin

    When you get your blood test results back you should be looking at the ferreting and not just the iron. The problem is that most gp's don't explain blood test results to their patients and when you go back home it's all simply medical terminology and a heap of numbers which at the end of the day don't mean much.

    More people are now finding out that their iron stores need to stay above 70 for at least 3 months to see a significant decrease in the shedding rate and for hair in the growing phase to be restored to its normal rate.

    What a lot of people dont know is that levels need to be between 125 - 150 for optimal metabolic and liver detoxification functioning. Your liver is an important organ and if it's not working at an optimum level then that can make you feel sluggish and lack energy among other things too. Low energy, dry skin, dull hair, sensitivity to the cold, difficulty in swallowing, pale complexiong, heart palpitations and breathlessness can all be common when it comes to iron deficiency. Not every person will have all those symptoms, but it is possible to have some or all.

    In my case i could understand being low in iron if i was vegetarian or had a bad diet. But i cook my own meals, rarely eat take away, i eat meat virtually daily, i have my fruit and veg too. So for me it's a big mystery to find out how this could have happened.

    Some people can have a system which is simply poor at absorbing iron, but it can also be connected to your digestive system, your liver, your spleen as all your bodily organs are interconnected and work like a machine. If one organ isn't functioning at the correct level then it affects production of all the other organs.

    The other factor is that of all the vitamins and minerals you consume, your body uses up what it needs and your hair gets the leftovers. If there are no vitamins/minerals or insufficient of them left over then your hair gets an insufficient amount or zero.

    Since initially seeing my trichologist and starting on this super powerful supplement, my levels have gone up by 20. I have just over one month to go on the supplement but i doubt i'll be up to 70 by then so i can see myself being on this supplement for a bit longer. If my body can't get to 70 or is struggling, my trichologist will have to find out why this is happening. Some people lack enzymes for food digestion and this causes iron and even other vitamins to not get absorbed properly so in that case i may need an enzyme supplement when eating meals. On the other hand it could be poor liver function, which again could be due to poor digestion if that's what i have.

    My issue is that my previous gp and my current gp have never been able to explain any of this to me. They are all simply clueless or simply not educated when it comes to this matter. I'm glad i found someone who specialises in this or i would hate to think what would have become of me and my hair.

     
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    Old 04-27-2007, 05:50 AM   #17
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    I have been anemic and had many symptmoms but thank goodness I have never had problems with my hair falling out. My ferritin is currently 3 and my hmgl is 10.7. I have been back on my iron for a couple of weeks and will get my blood tested again next week to see if my hmgl has gone up. My hmgl was 4.3 in the fall of 2005 so I had a blood transfusion-4 units. At that time my ferritin was 4. I have been having problems running, as I always do when my numbers are low. I was running 3-3.5 miles and kept a good pace and now can run 1/4 mile but have to drag myself every step of the way. I can play basketball, bike ride and do other activities but I guess that to run you need sustained energy for an extended amount of time. It seems that since 10.7 is not a terribly low number for hmgl that it is the low ferritin that contributes more to my inability to run. Any comments on exercise and anemia.

    Thanks!

     
    Old 04-27-2007, 07:36 AM   #18
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    More people are now finding out that their iron stores need to stay above 70 for at least 3 months to see a significant decrease in the shedding rate and for hair in the growing phase to be restored to its normal rate.

    What a lot of people dont know is that levels need to be between 125 - 150 for optimal metabolic and liver detoxification functioning.
    Audrey B:

    I am one of those who never got a satisfactory answer to the hair loss problem. I am being treated for hypothyroid and since I was still extremely fatigued, decided to raise my ferritin levels. In the course of my research on the topic I saw the hair loss-iron connection.My hair loss started when I was pretty young, and has always been a source of upset for me, since it is so thin.

    I went to a dematoligist years ago who gave me a cursory exam and said it was male pattern baldness. I recently went to a hematoligist who said my ferritin of 18 (9-?) was fine (no other low values, except MCV at lowest value 80) and in fact recommended specifically that I NOT take iron.

    I would like to ask if you know whether if I raise my ferritin levels up, if there is any chance that the hair will improve, i.e. fill in, or has it been too many years of hair loss? Incidentally, I am very careful with my diet and supplements, so I hope the nutritional levels there are ok.

     
    Old 05-01-2007, 12:51 AM   #19
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    Re: For the people who know ferritin

    Hi Sparkles, well i'm not a doctor, but from what i have found out is that ferritin is the important one, but in general doctors and people alike tend to refer to the levels in a general way by simply saying "iron levels". When i get my blood test results there are always seperate figures for iron itself and ferretin and my specialist always says that the ferretin is the one to keep an eye on.

    My levels had increased during my last blood test, but my specialist will not hear of my going off my iron supplement until i'm close to 150. He wants me up so high so that if i fall dramatically again i wont fall so far that it will take forever to get back up again and i wont go through the hair loss trauma. So if your ferritin is only up to 18 now i would not be stopping any additional iron supplementation and i have no idea where on earth your doc is coming from in giving you advice to not take any further iron supplements. The problem is which iron supplement to take as some of them are not that strong and you could be on it forever and not see much of a difference. An over the counter iron supplement i was on for a whole year didn't do that much for me and my specialist told me i could double or triple the dosage easily without overdosing. I'd never double or triple any medication without consulting a doctor, but that simply goes to show you how weak some of the supplements out there really are. Unless you find a great doctor who truly is interested in your cause, i feel none of us stand a chance.

    The problem with having continuous very low iron levels is that for some people it can cause an irreversable thyroid condition and that is something you dont want to end up with on top of the hair loss.

    kfont.....you mention that your low iron hasn't affected your hair, but you have problems with running. For me, no matter how low my iron got, it didn't affect my general daily stamina nor my skin or nails. Low iron levels affect everybody in different ways. I would only feel overwhelming tiredness after breakfast on the weekends, but the rest of the day or my weekdays i was on the go with no problems and my nails were healthy, which surprised my doctor, but i had been sufferent the ongoing cycle of hair growth and quick fall out since January 2001.

    The one thing which i feel may also be helping me is that my specialist has me on an Amino Acid Complex tablet twice per day which i take 20 mins before breakfast and dinner. It basically helps the body absorb vitamins and minerals much better.

    If you want to read up on more info you can ****** the name Anthony Pearce Trichologist and he writes some very easy to understand info on hair loss which might be of benefit. You just have to remember that there is no magic wand and it takes quite a while for things to start happening.

     
    Old 05-01-2007, 07:42 AM   #20
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    So if your ferritin is only up to 18 now i would not be stopping any additional iron supplementation and i have no idea where on earth your doc is coming from in giving you advice to not take any further iron supplements.
    I have seen at least 5 drs over the years. All say its either fine or its low, but ok. Interestingly, I saw a very highly regarded hematoligist...waited months for the appointment. It was he who said, not to take iron! All I can say is thank god for the internet. There is a whole world of literature out there that flatly contradicts his "advice"

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    The problem with having continuous very low iron levels is that for some people it can cause an irreversable thyroid condition and that is something you dont want to end up with on top of the hair loss.
    I have thyroid disease, just diagnosed in the last year. Again, overlooked by drs for many, many years. I had heard that some thyroid people have anemia/deficiencies, but I have never heard of it causing thyroid problems. Do you remember where you heard it? I would be most interested to read it.

     
    Old 05-02-2007, 01:24 AM   #21
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    Re: For the people who know ferritin

    I didn't read the info about long term iron defficiency possibly leading to thyroid disorders in some people, my trichologist told me about this. Each time i have a blood test to see where my levels are up to he also gets a blood test for my thyroid. He also gives me a VERY indepth letter to give to pathology so that they do the appropriate tests as many gp's simply get a very basic blood test done for thyroid.

    The problem is that constant low iron, or low anything for that matter, will not have the same side effects for every single person out there. Often you will only pick up on side effects after you have had the problem for a long time.

    The trichologist i visit has written a number of articles which you can read on the net. If you do a search using his name and profession you will find it easily enough. Do a search under Anthony Pearce Trichologist. He doesn't sell anything via the net, so dont worry that it's a marketing site. It's not like that and he only gives facts on hair loss details.

     
    Old 05-02-2007, 06:13 AM   #22
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    Thanks Audrey! I will check out his work

     
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