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    Old 07-04-2007, 04:11 AM   #16
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    Re: My foot is buzzing ???

    6-paq I see that you are L4/L5? What is everyone elses involved level, please?

     
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    Old 07-04-2007, 06:29 AM   #17
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    Re: My foot is buzzing ???

    Pepper, when I saw 6-Pak mention stenosis, I started wondering the same as you. 6-Pak, I also had central canal stenosis from bony overgrowth and ligament thickening & buckling (plus some disc hernations). Before surgery I had all sorts of pain & symptoms all over the place. I had some weird sensations in my feet, though I wouldnt have described it quite as buzzing before..maybe like a non-sharp pins& needles type feeling when trying to lay down. But then I really couldnt lay flat, had to lay in fetal position.

    But since you mentioned you have stenosis, I did, Pepper did, it seems like maybe more than a coiincidence that we all have these same buzzing symptoms.

    Pepper - my stenosis was at L3,L5,L5 (and since then I've developed mild bilateral foraminal stenosis at L3, L4, L5, and S1 but it's only mild and was not causing any of my sciatica pain, at least) Though now that I think about it, maybe something gets compressed enough when I bend my head to cause my buzzing. Who knows. This is all very interesting, though.....

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 06:39 AM   #18
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    Re: My foot is buzzing ???

    My problems were l4-s1.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 07:49 AM   #19
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    It is very interesting about the stenosis. Clover you have arthiritis too right?

    Today it feels like some is taking tweezers and pinch and pulling inside my foot. Very odd indeed.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 08:13 AM   #20
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    [QUOTE=Baybreeze;3079473]Pepper, when I saw 6-Pak mention stenosis, I started wondering the same as you. 6-Pak, I also had central canal stenosis from bony overgrowth and ligament thickening & buckling (plus some disc hernations). Before surgery I had all sorts of pain & symptoms all over the place. I had some weird sensations in my feet, though I wouldnt have described it quite as buzzing before..maybe like a non-sharp pins& needles type feeling when trying to lay down. But then I really couldnt lay flat, had to lay in fetal position.
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    Hmm.... interesting. I have to sleep in the fetal position as well. I haven't been able to sleep on my back for at least 15 years. It hurts way too much. I'm even getting an achy pain in my hips some mornings when I awake. It sometimes goes down the outer part of my leg to the outside of my knee.

    I always figured the hip pain is arthritis, since my mom and sister have osteo. Do you have any hip pain??

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    Old 07-04-2007, 08:19 AM   #21
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    I used to get that buzzing on the sides of my feet now its all under my feet and toes. I just learn to deal with it. My surgeon said he at first that he was going to do something about my stenosis but now he said its not bad enough to warrant surgery! So now he tells me that I may continue to have leg pain after the surgery and there is nothing he could do about it!

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 08:27 AM   #22
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    Hi Pepper,
    I get that buzzing alot in my left nerve damaged foot. Funny thing I have noticed is how the docs tell us can't do anything about these feelings, I bet if they had them they would find something to do. They say it's not pain so it's not that big of a deal. Well buzzing may not be pain but it can really get to you big time after awhile. I had my nerve root injections this past monday, now I have some burning and super sensitive feelings but no relief yet. I keep waiting but it doesn't look like thats gonna happen. I guess we are all in the same boat.

    I hope & pray we all find some relief!

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    Old 07-04-2007, 08:41 AM   #23
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    [QUOTE=lilredsmom;3079665]I used to get that buzzing on the sides of my feet now its all under my feet and toes. I just learn to deal with it. My surgeon said he at first that he was going to do something about my stenosis but now he said its not bad enough to warrant surgery! So now he tells me that I may continue to have leg pain after the surgery and there is nothing he could do about it![/QUOTE]

    The bottom of both feet and my toes (particularly the middle 3) is where most of the numbness occurs for me. My toes "sting" and the buzzing is in my toes, feet and lower legs. I am noticing a progression. Used to be just the toes and would go away with a short amount of rest. Now, it's getting to be all of the time.

    Just curious about your stenosis ~ where is yours located?

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 08:43 AM   #24
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    Yes, I have hip pain, but had MRI's done and found I also have OA in my hips, though at this point it's only mild. My hips hurt (along with the rest of my joints) with weather changes, rain, humidity and they ache alot after standing or walking too long. My previous bouts of sciatica also ended up moving into my hips and fronts of thighs, but that was relieved with epidural injections. If you have pain running from the outer part of your leg to knee, that might even possibly be sciatica, which is usually caused by some sort of nerve compression. I can't say for sure, but it's a possibility. Also central stenosis can compress the spinal canal, nerves, and all the blood vessels in there so much that it can cause deep achy, cramp-like pains in the rears and backs of thighs. This is called neurogenic claudication. I had this and so did Pepper. It's usually only relieved by leaning forward while walking or sitting, or leaning on a shopping cart or walker, etc...Laying flat is very painful, but the pain usually is relieved by laying in the fetal position because you're spine is bent, which actually opens up the canal, usually enough to relieve the compression. (same thing while walking bent forward). If you are going through the same thing, then it's probably due to the stenosis.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 08:50 AM   #25
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    Thanks so much for this info Baybreeze! It seems like I may be fighting this one with my neuro. I've been having problems for years, but it really started kicking in when I began an aggressive exercise/walking routine. I thought that may have aggrivated my back even worse.

    With the MRI to find the OA in your hips, could that be seen in a lumbar spine MRI?

    [QUOTE=Baybreeze;3079709]Yes, I have hip pain, but had MRI's done and found I also have OA in my hips, though at this point it's only mild. My hips hurt (along with the rest of my joints) with weather changes, rain, humidity and they ache alot after standing or walking too long. My previous bouts of sciatica also ended up moving into my hips and fronts of thighs, but that was relieved with epidural injections. If you have pain running from the outer part of your leg to knee, that might even possibly be sciatica, which is usually caused by some sort of nerve compression. I can't say for sure, but it's a possibility. Also central stenosis can compress the spinal canal, nerves, and all the blood vessels in there so much that it can cause deep achy, cramp-like pains in the rears and backs of thighs. This is called neurogenic claudication. I had this and so did Pepper. It's usually only relieved by leaning forward while walking or sitting, or leaning on a shopping cart or walker, etc...Laying flat is very painful, but the pain usually is relieved by laying in the fetal position because you're spine is bent, which actually opens up the canal, usually enough to relieve the compression. (same thing while walking bent forward). If you are going through the same thing, then it's probably due to the stenosis.[/QUOTE]

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 10:13 AM   #26
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    Yes, 6 paq, I have the hip pain and your description and Baybreeze fits me to a "T". In fact when all this business began with the back, I insisted it was my hip and not my back. I lay best on my right side with a pillow in my leg and bent up; however, about every 1 hour I have to change positions to the other side because the pain wakes me up. Just once I would love to be able to sleep the night thru without waking up 20 times.

    Stenosis was L5. From your description and the dermotone charts fits L5 nerve root. Just remember I am not a doctor just my unsolicited 2 cents.

    The buzzing was not really painful just super annoying. It was like a electrical short circuit or something. I don't think I could ignore it. Has anyone had your leg collapse as a result of the buzzing? I have not but I was wondering if I should be on the look out for that.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 11:14 AM   #27
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    [QUOTE=123dietdrpepper;3079839]Yes, 6 paq, I have the hip pain and your description and Baybreeze fits me to a "T". In fact when all this business began with the back, I insisted it was my hip and not my back. I lay best on my right side with a pillow in my leg and bent up; however, about every 1 hour I have to change positions to the other side because the pain wakes me up. Just once I would love to be able to sleep the night thru without waking up 20 times.

    Stenosis was L5. From your description and the dermotone charts fits L5 nerve root. Just remember I am not a doctor just my unsolicited 2 cents.

    The buzzing was not really painful just super annoying. It was like a electrical short circuit or something. I don't think I could ignore it. Has anyone had your leg collapse as a result of the buzzing? I have not but I was wondering if I should be on the look out for that.[/QUOTE]

    We have the same sleeping pattern!!! Toss and turn all night long... Some nights are better, other's are absolutely miserable.

    It used to be tied more to my monthly cycle. Now, it's getting more frequent and there doesn't seem to be a pattern. I was playing Wii Bowling last night and my hips and lower back are really sore today.

    I'm not so worried about collapsing from the buzzing. Like you said, it's not painful, but very annoying. I'm more worried about my legs collapsing from weakness.

    Are you experiencing any leg weakness along with your symptoms? I have, but I'm not sure if that's could also be attributed to my lower back. I also am an anxious person and have been having lots of anxiety over my health issues. Don't know whether that makes things worse or not. I went down 2 flights of stairs yesterday and my legs were so shaky and weak.

    I'm sorry that you are going through all of those. Hope that you can get some answers and relief very soon!

    Take care!

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 11:22 AM   #28
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    Re: My foot is buzzing ???

    6-Pak, no, they would need to do an MRI specifically on your hip(s) to look for anything in that area (this would cover the whole hip area) I'm sure some of the hip could be seen on a lumbar MRI, but I don't think it would get the whole picture. I know my surgeon sent me to his co-worker hip specialist when I told him I was having hip pain (I thought it might have been back related), so I saw this other doc, who wanted to make sure I didnt have avascular necrosis, so I had both hips MRI'd, and it just found early OA and a possible small spur on the right. I have many family members who've had to have hip replacements, some at an early age, so I'm glad they checked it all. The hip doc did tell me it could progress to that in my future, but it's not at any advanced stage yet.

    Pepper - no, I havent personally had any leg collapse due to my buzzing; my left foot kind of gave out though, and rolled inward & outward when my foot was numb, b/c I had no feeling nor sense of where my foot was. And with the sciatica pain, my leg would buckle at times just from the sheer pain, I guess it's just an automatic reaction, like my leg was trying to pull away from the pain. Didn't you mention you also had foot numbness? If so, do you also get it elsewhere along where your nerve pain? That could cause weakness, so that would be something to watch out for.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 11:29 AM   #29
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    Yes sometimes I can't feel the side of my foot off and on and I do fall frequently. However, with this buzzing I have not had any problem with collapsing.

    I do have problems with my leg/foot collapsing with stairs, getting out of a car after driving for 20 minutes or so, and if I have been walking around alot. I don't know how many times I have fallen when stepping down from the outside deck. There are no hand rails. Now my hubby and children hold out their hand when I am getting off of it.

    We have installed a hand railing down into the pool and spa for me to hang on to. We are taking every precaution possible to avoid a fall these days.

    Very interesting how we share similiar symptoms. I don't feel alone and am suprised at the response I got from this question. Thank you all for your love and support thru this ugly spiney journey.

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    Old 07-04-2007, 02:20 PM   #30
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    [SIZE="3"]Hey guy's my pain management Dr. told me ANYONE who has spine surgery is going to have arthritis , Hmmm I didn't know this ..

    Anyway , I have the hip pain to ,my left side , it run's down the outside of my leg clear down to my outer foot , and across the top of my little toes , my big toe only buzz's under it ?? Mine was supposed to be nerve damage , but I don't understand why it keep's getting worse when I'm on my butt or feet , when I lay down it almost goes away ?

    To me this sound's like a pinched nerve not nerve damage , but you know me I'm a drama King . The spinalcord stimulator takes away the hip pain and some leg pain but I still get the deep dull aching feeling in my leg's and feet..They feel like there being crushed . I hope you guy's don't get it that bad yet and never do. I live with the buzzing more than ever now since this stim makes that happen. Really that doesn't bother me ..ITS the crushing stinging I hate.

    Happy 4th everyone , I'm watching from my window's tonight all by myself wifes working and my daughter is at the firework show with her boyfriend and family .
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    Pepper hope your party is going well and your doin ok.[/SIZE]

     
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