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    Old 07-04-2014, 09:36 PM   #1
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    Cool replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    i took fenofribrate for 6y yrs for high triglycerides, bad LDL/HDL ratio. Last december , i developed very severe generalized muscle inflammation, my doctor ordered cpk test and it came back in the thousands. she told me to stop fenofribrate and my cpk became normal again, and my high triglyceride, bad HDL/LDL stayed normal. Now 6 months later, the high triglyceride, bad HDL/LDL ratio is coming back. During the last 6 months too, i tested very low for Vit D and Testosterone, and i read statins and fenofribrate could have been responsible. I am seeing my doctor again in 2 weeks, can any MD or former patient recommend a replacement for fenofibrate with low side effects/that is will not lower my Vit D or Testosterone. I also read that supplements liked CoQ, zinc and magnesium can help, is this true and which pharmacies carry these genuine supplements at low cost/mail pharmacy, as insurance does not cover them. Also what is best way to raise Vit D and testosterone safely, i drink plenty of Vit Aand D fortified milk, so I wonder why U have low Vit D

     
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    Are you interested, then, in OTC supplements to change your lipid profile picture? If so,

    -Red Yeast Rice supplement to lower LDL. Take COQ10 with this

    -Krill Oil/ Omega 3's help with inflammation and to lower Triglycerides

    -Flush Niacin to raise HDL (will also help lower LDL). You have to start at a very low dose because of the flushing effect (non-flush Niacin will not be effective for this). Start at 50 or 100mg. and very slowly ramp up. You can also purchase a pill splitter if you can't find lower milligrams.

    -Definitely take a vitamin D3 (not D2). You could take 2000 to 3000 IU. Low Vitamin D can cause a number of problems. Take K-2 with this to help it be absorbed properly.

    A note of warning, your doc may not be amenable to these alternative measures if he is staunchly into Allopathic medicine, but they have worked well for me and a great many others as well. You could do the research yourself, if interested.

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    Old 07-05-2014, 07:33 AM   #3
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    One more suggestion.

    How about posting the lab numbers for your lipid panel so we can see exactly what you are referring to as "bad". Oftentimes there is worry and concern when the ratios actually look fine.

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    thanks tess, i will try them. what is k-2, which store sells genuine, not fake/counterfeit of these supplements at best /lowest prices

     
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Cholesterol 120-199 mg/dL 147
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference ranges) for Cholesterol:
    Optimal.....................<200 mg/dL
    Borderline High.............200-239 mg/dL
    High........................> or = 240 mg/dL
    Triglycerides 30-150 mg/dL 222
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for triglycerides:
    Normal......................<150 mg/dL
    Borderline High.............150-199 mg/dL
    High........................200-499 mg/dL
    HDL 40-75 mg/dL 27
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for HDL Cholesterol:
    Low...............<40 mg/dL
    Optimal...........>60 mg/dL
    LDL Cholesterol 63.0-159.0 mg/dL 75.6
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for LDL Cholesterol:
    Optimal.......................<130 mg/dL
    Borderline High...............130-159 mg/dL
    High..........................160-189 mg/dL
    Very High.....................>190 mg/dL
    HDL/Chol Ratio 20.0-50.0 % 18.4
    Total Cholesterol/HDL Ratio 2.0-5.0 5.4
    Non-HDL Cholesterol 120
    Risk category and Non-HDL cholesterol goals:
    Coronary heart disease (CHD)or equivalent (10-year risk of CHD >20%):
    Non-HDL cholesterol goal <130 mg/dL
    Two or more CHD risk factors and 10-year risk of CHD <= 20%:
    Non-HDL cholesterol goal <160 mg/dL
    0 to 1 CHD risk factor:
    Non-HDL cholesterol goal <190 mg/dL
    General Information
    Collected:

    06/20/2014 10:40 AM
    Resulted:

    06/20/2014 12:22 PM
    Ordered By:

    Brandy Ann Panunti, MD
    Result Status:

    Final result

     
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    COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL - Details
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    About This Test

    Details
    Past Results
    Graph of Past Results

    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Sodium 136-145 mmol/L 140
    Potassium 3.5-5.1 mmol/L 4.0
    Chloride 95-110 mmol/L 103
    CO2 23-29 mmol/L 28
    Glucose 70-110 mg/dL 141
    BUN, Bld 8-23 mg/dL 21
    Creatinine 0.5-1.4 mg/dL 1.3
    Calcium 8.7-10.5 mg/dL 9.5
    Total Protein 6.0-8.4 g/dL 7.0
    Albumin 3.5-5.2 g/dL 3.5
    Total Bilirubin 0.1-1.0 mg/dL 0.4
    For infants and newborns, interpretation of results should be based
    on gestational age, weight and in agreement with clinical
    observations.
    Premature Infant recommended reference ranges:
    Up to 24 hours.............<8.0 mg/dL
    Up to 48 hours............<12.0 mg/dL
    3-5 days..................<15.0 mg/dL
    6-29 days.................<15.0 mg/dL
    Alkaline Phosphatase 55-135 U/L 68
    AST 10-40 U/L 15
    ALT 10-44 U/L 17
    Anion Gap 8-16 mmol/L 9
    eGFR if African American >60 mL/min/1.73 m^2 >60.0
    eGFR if non African American >60 mL/min/1.73 m^2 57.7
    Calculation used to obtain the estimated glomerular filtration
    rate (eGFR) is the CKD-EPI equation. Since race is unknown
    in our information system, the eGFR values for
    African-American and Non-African-American patients are given
    for each creatinine result.
    General Information
    Collected:

    05/19/2014 8:10 AM
    Resulted:

    05/19/2014 9:46 AM
    Ordered By:

    Christie V Degrange, MD
    Result Status:

    Final result

     
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    Comments from the Doctor's Office
    I have prescribed Vitamin D and sent it to your pharmacy. Please make sure you take the first dose in the presence of another person because there is a question of allergic reaction with Vitamin D in patients who have peanut allergies.
    I have also referred you to Neurology for weakness
    Please call me if you have any questions
    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Vit D, 25-Hydroxy 30-96 ng/mL 20
    Vitamin D deficiency.........<10 ng/mL
    Vitamin D insufficiency......10-29 ng/mL
    Vitamin D sufficiency........> or equal to 30 ng/mL
    Vitamin D toxicity............>100 ng/mL
    General Information
    Collected:
    01/14/2014 10:50 AM
    Resulted:
    01/14/2014 1:07 PM
    Ordered By:
    Shikha Singla, MD
    Result Status:
    Final result


    Comments from the Doctor's Office
    Diabetes is well controlled, CK is normal, Vitamin D is improved. Continue present care.
    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Vit D, 25-Hydroxy 30-96 ng/mL 26
    Vitamin D deficiency.........<10 ng/mL
    Vitamin D insufficiency......10-29 ng/mL
    Vitamin D sufficiency........> or equal to 30 ng/mL
    Vitamin D toxicity............>100 ng/mL
    General Information
    Collected:
    05/07/2014 2:05 PM
    Resulted:
    05/07/2014 6:17 PM
    Ordered By:
    Christie V Degrange, MD

    TESTOSTERONE FREE - Details

    About This Test
    Details
    Past Results
    Graph of Past Results
    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Testosterone, Free 6.6 - 18.1 pg/mL 3.8
    Reference range:
    AGE MALE
    20-29 yrs 9.3-26.5 pg/mL
    30-39 yrs 8.7-25.1 pg/mL
    40-49 yrs 6.8-21.5 pg/Ml
    50-59 yrs 7.2-24.0 pg/mL
    60 yrs and over 6.6-18.1 pg/mL
    Reference range female:
    AGE FEMALE
    20-59 0.2-2.2 pg/mL
    60 yrs and over 0.0-1.8 pg/mL
    The Free Testosterone Assay is intended strictly
    for use as an aid in the clinical diagnosis and
    management of Hirsutism due to Hyperandrogenism.
    For the diagnosis of Hypoandrogenism in adult
    males, Bioavailable Testosterone
    (test code TESFBTQ) is recommended.
    Test performed at Warde Medical Laboratory,
    Ann Arbor, MI 48108
    General Information
    Collected:
    04/30/2014 10:53 AM
    Resulted:
    05/02/2014 4:17 PM
    Ordered By:
    Lynette Mauterer, CR-FNP
    Result Status:
    Final result

     
    Old 07-05-2014, 08:14 AM   #8
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

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    thanks tess, i will try them. what is k-2, which store sells genuine, not fake/counterfeit of these supplements at best /lowest prices
    HI again,

    Try a healthfood store in your community (not GNC), like Whole Foods. Vitamin Shop also has some good deals. Nature's Plus is the best, so far, for Red Yeast Rice. You can find this most anywhere. Twin Labs makes flush niacin. There are many other brands as well (again, make sure you start at a VERY low dose as flushing can be uncomfortable. You shouldn't have a problem if you start low).

    Regarding the reports you posted. I cannot find your lipid numbers. Maybe someone else can see them. If not, all that is needed to figure out your ratios is:

    Total cholesterol/LDL/HDL/ Triglycerides

    If you have thesenumbers, not what the lab is looking for but your actual numbers, maybe you can post again . . . just these values for YOU.

    Tess

     
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    Component Results
    Component Standard Range Your Value
    Cholesterol 120-199 mg/dL 147

    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference ranges) for Cholesterol:
    Optimal.....................<200 mg/dL
    Borderline High.............200-239 mg/dL
    High........................> or = 240 mg/dL
    Triglycerides 30-150 mg/dL 222
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for triglycerides:
    Normal......................<150 mg/dL
    Borderline High.............150-199 mg/dL
    High........................200-499 mg/dL
    HDL 40-75 mg/dL 27
    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for HDL Cholesterol:
    Low...............<40 mg/dL
    Optimal...........>60 mg/dL
    LDL Cholesterol 63.0-159.0 mg/dL 75.6

    The National Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) has set the
    following guidelines (reference values) for LDL Cholesterol:
    Optimal.......................<130 mg/dL
    Borderline High...............130-159 mg/dL
    High..........................160-189 mg/dL
    Very High.....................>190 mg/dL
    HDL/Chol Ratio 20.0-50.0 % 18.4
    Total Cholesterol/HDL Ratio 2.0-5.0 5.4
    Non-HDL Cholesterol 120

    Risk category and Non-HDL cholesterol goals:
    Coronary heart disease (CHD)or equivalent (10-year risk of CHD >20%):

     
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    Tess:

    Thank you very much forb yoiur suggestions, I will try bthem.

    Finally, can you help med with supplements to raise my low T/testosterone and Libido without the testosterone replacement drugs with all their dangerous side effects now causing a lot of litigation in court

     
    Old 07-06-2014, 07:56 AM   #11
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

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    Tess:

    Thank you very much forb yoiur suggestions, I will try bthem.

    Finally, can you help med with supplements to raise my low T/testosterone and Libido without the testosterone replacement drugs with all their dangerous side effects now causing a lot of litigation in court
    Sorry sollyfunny,

    I don't know anything about this but what I would advise is doing your own research. Maybe try: alternative supplement for low testosterone. I always research every new supplement I'm thinking about taking and I also check what other users say about the product.

    Wish you the best with this.

    Tess

     
    Old 07-07-2014, 11:41 AM   #12
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    Re: replacement for fenofribrate with low side effects

    I advised you to take fish oil, lots of fish oil pills, like 6 to 10 per days. That will definitely lower your Triglycerides ...it did on mine.. and I continue taking it

     
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    what brand of fish oil do u buy/how manh mgs per pill, what store chains sels the best one without mouth fish odor. i tried cheap ones from dollar tree for somerime and stippoed, even then i was only taking 1 tab, so let me know total mgs needd per day and bst store/cheap

     
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    what brand of fish oil do u buy/how manh mgs per pill, what store chains sels the best one without mouth fish odor. i tried cheap ones from dollar tree for somerime and stippoed, even then i was only taking 1 tab, so let me know total mgs needd per day and bst store/cheap
    First of all, here is the problem. Taking 1 tab will NEVER be enough. I used to be like you thinking those "supplement pills" are powerful like medicine, one or two is enough. NO, not at all, even if you are in the label of the bottle saying taking 2 a day, it is merely a marketing scheme to lure customers to buy it. (It really depends, but for fish oil, one or two are really not enough)

    You really have to look at how much omega 3 a pill contains (other than saturated fats) To your question, I take Nature made, cvs, as long as there are buy one get one free, I will take it. (Brands don't really matter to me, just make sure they don't expire.. to me I don't trust food from dollar stores, other stuff are okay) And I also made sure it is 360mg per pill.

    According to some health articles, you need at least 2000mg a day if you are high in Cholesterol. That makes around 6 pills. Of course, I won't take them at one time. It is best to take it separately with meals. I do so 3 times (sometimes I also take it with cod liver oil twice per day)

    As far as taste or odor goes, I smell nothing, no odor as long as it is taken with food. You won't smell any.. I know some people have problems with big pills. Those are kind of big to some. To me, I can swallow 4 at the same time if I want.

    Lately, I also take fiber therapy (not expansive as well - 4 a day), and experiment if Lecithin (will see next check up will be better)

    The rules of taking supplements is taking with meal, and don't over-take them or you may get toxic.

    Hope that helps.

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