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    Old 05-24-2019, 05:39 PM   #1
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    Could it be my thyroid?

    Hello everyone,

    My name is Nat.

    I have recently been going through a worsening of my anxiety, depression and OCD Symptoms, and after dealing with this for about three weeks, i have begun to wonder if it's possible that it could be related to my thyroid.

    About a year ago, I gotten testing done my my results for my TSH was 4.97. I know this is the normal range 0.450-4.500 (uIU/mL). T4 - 1.37. But didn't receive medication or anything. I don't know much about the thyroid and it's conditions, so I am not sure if it could be related. Though I have been experiencing the physical symptoms of Hypo.

    Such as,

    Hair loss
    Dry skin
    Constipation
    Weight Issues
    etc.


    Mentally, I can't concentrate on much. Have Obsessive thinking that has seem to have gotten worse. Weird Intrusive thoughts and just feeling overall anxious, and getting depressed.

    I see a Psych and Therapist, am prescribed medication for over 5 years now. And I believe I was doing okay for a time. Until I stopped the antidepressant, but started it up again.

    But since I never really thought about the thyroid I wanted to know if it can be an issue? I am getting blood work done again tomorrow.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Old 05-25-2019, 03:04 AM   #2
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Wait until you get the blood work back. That will tell the doctor if it is your thyroid of it is is something else...even vitamin deficiencies can cause the symptoms you are talking about; so make sure you ask your doctor exactly what the blood work was looking for and if there is anything else to test for.

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    Old 05-25-2019, 07:43 AM   #3
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Dear Nat.

    Thyroid definitely can be an issue, so the answer is yes.

    I esp. wish psyche doctors would study the endocrine system and learn about thyroid issues. The thyroid affects the emotions since too low or too high thyroid hormones can make us feel stressed out or depressed. Your thyroid level could be what is causing the depression or making you feel down. I am not diagnosing you, Just giving information.

    A high TSH means you might need additional thyroid hormone. It can be confusing, but too high TSH means not enough thyroid hormone. But to know more you really need more than just the TSH. To really know what is going on you need Free T4 and Free T3 tests and you need to know the test ranges.

    Thyroid levels can be also be affected by the antidepressant and foods that you eat.
    Getting to a thyroid level that works is by trying different doses and it takes weeks to find out what a dose will do. Maybe you know this.

    Find a really knowledgeable endocrinologist by asking store pharmacists if any local doctors prescribe natural thyroid and ask for their names. Do you have insurance so you can talk to the doctors you wish to see?
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    Old 05-28-2019, 04:36 PM   #4
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Hello. Thanks so much for replying. I have received my test results back and it is TSH 6.8, is this pretty bad? I guess when I speak to my doctor we will discuss further testing. To answer your question I have insurance and can see a endocrinologist.

     
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    Old 05-28-2019, 08:32 PM   #5
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Dear Safeplace,

    Hon, it isn't "bad". It just is what it is.

    Thyroid levels that are too high or low for you can cause symptoms but that can be adjusted with proper care.

    I learned to make sure my endo specializes in thyroid, rather than diabetes.

    Let us know what your doctor says.
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    Old 05-31-2019, 08:52 PM   #6
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Hi, I've spoken with My GP and she told me she doesn't usually treat the thyroid when it's borderline because the medication is for life, and wanted to wait three more months to see if it goes to 10. But I've been feeling worse in general mentally and physically, and she has put me on 25mg of Synthroid, but I will speak with my Psych first to see how the medications I take can interact with it.

    Should I still see an Endo? And is there any advice I should know when I do begin to take it?

    Thanks for responding!

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    Old 06-01-2019, 06:53 AM   #7
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    Hi, I've spoken with My GP and she told me she doesn't usually treat the thyroid when it's borderline because the medication is for life, and wanted to wait three more months to see if it goes to 10. But I've been feeling worse in general mentally and physically, and she has put me on 25mg of Synthroid, but I will speak with my Psych first to see how the medications I take can interact with it.

    Should I still see an Endo? And is there any advice I should know when I do begin to take it?


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    Old 06-01-2019, 08:52 AM   #8
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    Re: Could it be my thyroid?

    Dear Safeplace,

    Thyroid does not negatively affect psyche drugs. Natural thyroid is something the body normally produces on it's own. Thyroid affects mood. In fact, if your thyroid level gets corrected you may find that you have no need for psych meds. (Let me be clear, though - NEVER go off psych meds except under the care of a doctor! They must be weaned off slowly.)

    I believe there is not a 'borderline' for thyroid. And even if there was, your level is above the lab range, on the high side, which means you are definitely thyroid deficient. How much you need as an individual can only be discovered by taking a dose and checking on your symptoms.

    To find what level you need is only by trying a dose for six or so weeks then checking on your symptoms (yes it takes that long). That is the proper and normal way to treat thyroid deficiency. A knowledgeable doctor knows this fact. This is because hormone needs are completely unique for each person. There is no set standard of what YOU need for YOUR health.

    Unfortunately a lot of doctors think they can effectively treat thyroid issues and they simply are wrong to be messing around with it. Unfortunately that also includes endocrinologists, because many make diabetes their focus and don't have a clue about treating thyroid. It was a thyroid specialist that many years ago taught me to check with pharmacists and ask for doctor names that treat with natural thyroid. This is because they know the body does not assimilate or respond well to synthetic hormones like Synthroid.

    Secondly, and this is my take on it, and I am just another patient, but I have gone for years through the haggle of trying to get proper diagnosis and proper treatment - and my belief is that the human body responds much faster, better and easier on natural thyroid hormone. I get no relief at all from synthetic man made hormones, which is what Synthroid is.

    This is why I recommend asking pharmacists for the names of doctors that prescribe natural thyroid. Then I phone them to check whether they take my insurance, to be sure that I can afford them. Right now I have a fantastic thyroid doctor, a well respected endocrinologist. But I have gotten great excellent thyroid treatment with a female gynecologist and regular general practitioners, too, by checking to find out which doctors prescribe natural thyroid.

    If you don't mind me asking, what symptoms made you decide to take psych meds?
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    Old 06-01-2019, 04:08 PM   #9
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    Hi Yaya,

    I will look into seeing an endocrinologist for natural Thyroid.

    I'll give you some background.

    When I was 18 (I'm going on 24 now), I was experiencing depressive symptoms, mood swings, irritability, crying spells, had a big panic attack, lingering anxiety and over time that turned into me feeling unwell in general. I chalked it down to being overly sensitive about things and being a teenager. (I look back now and realize I may have had some physical symptoms of hypo or vitamin deficiency as well. The dry skin, hair falling out in clumps, constipation, fatigue etc)

    The anxiety and intrusive thinking got so bad it made me very depressed. I went to the hospital and was diagnosed with Major Depression, Anxiety and OCD. I did blood work, but they never said anything about Thyroid Issues. I was given three medications an Anti-Depressant, An Anti-Anxiety, and a mood stabilizer that helped me sleep. (I couldn't sleep and would wake up a lot during the night.)

    I was feeling better, I got off the anti anxiety med, had a clearer mind, and was always able to get out of any episodes If I found myself falling back into them with the medications and my coping Techniques. This was when my TSH came back 4.97. Eventually I stopped the anti depressant (I did two times before, and was always able to feel better getting back on, but this time big mistake) and was doing well for a couple of months until finishing school, which was a stressor, and symptoms came flooding back.

    But the reason I decided to look into the thyroid now is because my symptoms came back worst than I've ever experienced them in the last five years. (Panic attacks, Persistent anxiety, feeling slowed down, unable to concentrate and experiencing weird intrusive thoughts more frequently)

    And seeing my results come back higher than before, and doing a bit of research, I think maybe this could be the reason for the worsening of the symptoms (even if it isn't the cause of everything), because I find it harder to manage this time around. (And I'm also just trying to figure things out, and rule out any physical issues)

    Now that I'm back on the anti depressant medication for a little over a month now, I do feel better, more energy, I can do things lol but I still feel off as if its masking... if that makes sense.


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    Dear Safeplace,

    If you need the antidepressant for now, use it, hon.

    Too low thyroid can feel like depression, too. And, try to avoid simple carbs and junk food. Those are depressants.

    When you get a proper thyroid level for you, I think you will be feeling much better, normal.

    But keep in mind that we need to avoid simple carbs, cereals, and sugars. They are downers because they metabolize too quickly.
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    Old 06-04-2019, 07:05 AM   #11
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    Hi Safeplace,

    In addition to avoiding junk food, you need to make sure your diet has enough foods that contain iodine. Most iodine comes from seafood. And at the same time try to avoid eating raw cruciferous vegetables because they will block the absorption of iodine. Why do all of this? Your thyroid cannot produce thyroxin without a sufficient supply of iodine and it needs thyroxin to function properly.

    When my TSH was 8.88 I asked my doctor if there was anything I could do with my diet to help correct it, and he said "no" without even asking me what my diet was like. I wasn't eating any seafood and I wasn't using iodized salt. But one good thing is that he set up another date for a blood test to make sure.

    Well, I did some research and made some changes to my diet and the next result, 3 months later, was TSH 4.50 (within normal range).

    I realize everyone is different but here's my experience: When my TSH was 8.88 I felt very well both mentally and physically. I had absolutely no symptoms of hypothyroidism. And when my TSH went down to 4.50 I felt exactly the same. Yes, I was tested for T3 free and T4 free but don't remember the results.

    Unfortunately, medical doctors are limited to doctoring and usually have very little nutrition education. Their job, primarily, is to diagnose and treat with medication or other medical procedure. So it's left up to the patient to find out what their dietary needs are.

    Hope this will be of some help.
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    Old 06-05-2019, 06:51 AM   #12
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    Hi again,

    I neglected to mention some other related items in the same category with cruciferous vegetables. They are avocados, peaches, strawberries and peanuts, peanut butter and possibly peanut oil.

    I also should mention that any items that block the absorption of iodine are referred to as goitrogens. It's supposed to be okay to eat cruciferous vegetables as long as they are cooked, but they recommend sticking to the regular suggested serving size. In other words, don't overdo it.

     
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    Old 06-05-2019, 07:54 AM   #13
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    Dear Safeplace,

    How are you doing today?

    I grew up with plenty of iodized salt and appropriate foods. My body does not convert foods into the thyroid component that I need, which may be true of many with dysfunctional thyroids, so a change in diet doesn't work for us.

    If T4 alone is not enough, you can ask your doctor for a trial of T3 (Cytomel). I daily take T3 with the regular T4. Whatever you do, take the thyroid by itself at least an hour and a half before eating other foods that can interfere with absorption.

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    Old 06-07-2019, 11:34 AM   #14
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    Hello, Yaya!

    I am doing well. I do have a poor diet, it's something I should fix either way. lol Just waiting for my appointment with an Endocrinologist on the 11th. (Haven't started any medication). Any important questions I should ask her?

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    Dear Safeplace,

    Hon, diet is absolutely key. It won't replace thyroid hormones, but diet is key to mental alertness and health. If you are eating too many carbs, the brain will not be clear & alert. Carbs are so addictive that we can be fogging our brain and not even realize it.

    Thyroid is from the thyroid glands of animals. However, mankind became creative and tried to mimic thyroid hormones synthetically. Evidently some people get some benefit from those. Many are like me and cannot assimilate the man-created thyroid enough to have a benefit.

    Regarding the new endo, I suggest that you stay off the mental issue subject and first tell the new doctor that you would like to try natural thyroid. If the doctor is open to that, he/she very likely is able to help you get rebalanced. A doctor that understands this will also understand the relationship of thyroid levels to mental and emotional health. We cannot have one without the other.

    In fact, I would call that doctor's office ASAP and ask if doctor prescribes natural thyroid. I am not joking. If he/she does not, because of what I know now, I would cancel that appt. and find a doctor that will. It is easy to do. Just speak to a couple of pharmacists and ask for names of doctors that do prescribe it. Doctors do not need to be endocrinologists to understand and effectively prescribe thyroid. I have even been effectively treated with thyroid by Naturopaths.

    Keep us informed.
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