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    Old 01-10-2004, 08:32 AM   #1
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    I was wondering if anyone has had sinus problems from there thyroid illness. I have extrememly dry sinus's. I have to apply vaseline every few hours just to breathe somewhat normal. Is this related to Thyroid?

     
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    Old 01-10-2004, 09:17 AM   #2
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    Re: Sinus problems. Please read

    I do have sinus problems but I don't know for sure if it is related to thyroid. However, my problem is the opposite of yours. Every night when I lay down in bed, I become very congested. In the morning I wake up congested and have alot of phlegm (sp?) in my throat. It's actually pretty disgusting and very frustrating.

     
    Old 01-10-2004, 09:55 AM   #3
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    HypoT is a major cause of sinus problems. HypoT causes either airway inflammation; thick, sticky mucus; constant congestion; or any combination of the three. The inflammation can cause the "dry" feeling. When the mucus is too thick and sticky, it doesn't coat the airway the way it's meant to - which also can cause the feeling of dryness. Also, stagnant mucus grows bacteria, causing recurrent, frequent infection.
    Instead of Vaseline, you might want to try the spray saline solution you can buy at the drugstore. This will thin the mucus and clear it out better.
    Best of all is to get the thyroid hormones in proper balance... then you'll know for sure whether your particular sinus condition is indeed caused by your thyroid or by something else.

     
    Old 01-10-2004, 01:24 PM   #4
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    HypoT is a major cause of sinus problems. HypoT causes either airway inflammation; thick, sticky mucus; constant congestion; or any combination of the three. The inflammation can cause the "dry" feeling. When the mucus is too thick and sticky, it doesn't coat the airway the way it's meant to - which also can cause the feeling of dryness. Also, stagnant mucus grows bacteria, causing recurrent, frequent infection.
    Instead of Vaseline, you might want to try the spray saline solution you can buy at the drugstore. This will thin the mucus and clear it out better.
    Best of all is to get the thyroid hormones in proper balance... then you'll know for sure whether your particular sinus condition is indeed caused by your thyroid or by something else.
    one thought guys.....
    I've just found out that it looks like I have a thyroid issue- all these years I have had major sinus/ear problems- had a deviated septum surgery- every test you could imagine. After 14 years of trying to diagnose why I had such bad congestion I finally found that it was all related to acid reflux. I rarely get heartburn, but a great ENT explained to me that when I sleep the acid makes it way all the way up to my sinuses and eustachian tubes- causes inflamation and irritation-throwing the whole system into a tailspin. He prescribed a very mild antacid (ranitadine) and told me to stop eating and drinking EVRYTHING at least one hour before lying down. He explained to me that the stomach doesn't know the difference between food and water- it just feels pressure- and when it feels pressure it starts producing acid. Since I've been following his advice at least 80% of my sinus and ear issues have cleared up- and I've heard that it can take a long time to straighten out. Might want to look into it- sure has helped me a ton...

     
    Old 01-10-2004, 01:28 PM   #5
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    Thanks for the information midwest. I'm looking forward to the day that my thyroid hormones are in check and my hair quits falling out and my sinuses are back to normal.

     
    Old 01-10-2004, 02:07 PM   #6
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    LK77... I wish that for both of us, and everyone else with hypoT. I've had two colds and two sinus infections since the first of November. The one I have now has been lingering since Christmas.

    Sladedog, since you are new to all this thyroid stuff, you may not know that heartburn is a common hypoT symptom, too. There are several reasons why this is so; hypo slows down every body process, including digestion. When digestion slows, the food sits in the stomach too long, and the resulting acid/food "slurry" backs up into the esophagus, causing that awful burn. Another possibility is that there isn't actually excess acid, but a shortage of acid from the hypoT, which ironically, also causes the "burn".

    I'm still in the process of getting my levels right, but when they're good, I never get heartburn. When they're "off", I have it constantly.

     
    Old 01-10-2004, 03:01 PM   #7
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    I have the same problem as bigheadache. It's worse though when my synthroid needs to be increased and goes along with the other nasty symptoms. I too almost daily need to use vaseline to prevent nose bleeds and to clear the passage way. Also have the phlegm problem.
    I've only had one serious cold in the past year however, and that may be because i take lots of Vit. C daily.

     
    Old 01-11-2004, 04:15 AM   #8
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    and also a high cholesterol count adds to the 'indigestion'/heartburn/acid reflux. People that have to ultimately go on those cholestrol meds find a drastic (in some cases) stop to acid indigestion. My DH is one I can remark on. He knows when he has done a 'boo boo' and consumed some 'illegal treasures' almost immed his acid levels leap up.

    Myself? also with high cholestrol, but also been Hypo for many years. I am looking so forward to one day not having this acid stuff. It wakes me up like clockwork, and I take acid reduction meds. (OTC) which help providing I take them on a regular basis which is not so good. Even water does it, spicey food does NOT bother me....sugars, iodized salt, fruit, nuts, some veggies so. Sinus, I have dry nose, nose bleeds, use a little swab of Vicks vapo rub under the nose, which helps most of the time.....lots of phlem and post nasal drip which also adds to the acid stuff....oh we are a mess arent we!

    Midwest, you are sooo knowledgable. Even if I look up the information I seek on the net, my brain seems not to be able to absorb it let alone digest and learn from it.....almost like I was a little kid.... guess it is the 'Thyroid problems, causing my brain to malfunction half the time. darn hard when I am a would be writer..... and do write for and tell stories to little kids, just unpaid and unpublished SO FAR! I prob would not know where to sign a contract should I ever get one hahah

    Bonnie

     
    Old 01-11-2004, 08:56 AM   #9
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    one thought guys.....
    I've just found out that it looks like I have a thyroid issue- all these years I have had major sinus/ear problems- had a deviated septum surgery- every test you could imagine. After 14 years of trying to diagnose why I had such bad congestion I finally found that it was all related to acid reflux. I rarely get heartburn, but a great ENT explained to me that when I sleep the acid makes it way all the way up to my sinuses and eustachian tubes- causes inflamation and irritation-throwing the whole system into a tailspin. He prescribed a very mild antacid (ranitadine) and told me to stop eating and drinking EVRYTHING at least one hour before lying down. He explained to me that the stomach doesn't know the difference between food and water- it just feels pressure- and when it feels pressure it starts producing acid. Since I've been following his advice at least 80% of my sinus and ear issues have cleared up- and I've heard that it can take a long time to straighten out. Might want to look into it- sure has helped me a ton...
    This is kinda interesting becuase I used to be on ranitadine for acid reflux. I just stopped getting acid reflux and stopped taking my medication. I wonder if I still get it while I'm sleeping though. Interesting post however.

     
    Old 01-11-2004, 09:05 AM   #10
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    Thanks for the compliment, Bonnie. I don't consider myself any more 'knowledgable' than most of us here, though. It's just that I'm extra curious about the "whys" of the symptoms of this stupid disease, and I guess I'm a pretty good researcher... lol.
    You, on the other hand, have a genuine talent... I wish you success with getting published someday soon.

     
    Old 01-11-2004, 09:31 AM   #11
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    Thanks for the compliment, Bonnie. I don't consider myself any more 'knowledgable' than most of us here, though. It's just that I'm extra curious about the "whys" of the symptoms of this stupid disease, and I guess I'm a pretty good researcher... lol.
    You, on the other hand, have a genuine talent... I wish you success with getting published someday soon.
    what an intersting game this whole thing is huh?!?!?
    Here are the things that I have finally confirmed through testing are going on with me- gotta wonder which ones, if not all of them, could be caused by the good ole thyroid....
    1- Allergies- had extensive testing and found that I have pretty severe allergies- mostly to trees, grasses and weeds...
    2- acid reflux- after all these years- CT scans, MRIs- countless sinus X-rays, sinus surgery, (a diagnosis of eustachian tube dysfunction which was wrong), treatments with prednisone, the last ENT told me that my sinuses were great, my eustachian tube was fine (he stuck that lovely tube all the way up into my sinuses and checked it all out)- and again decided that it was acid reflux-
    3- hypoglycemic- had a five hour glucose tolerance test done- not off the charts but my blood sugar levels took a major dive between hours 2 and three which was a bit odd- seems to mean that my digestive system is slow...
    4- super fun Migraines- the kind where I basically go blind.... then feel like my head is in a vice....
    Sooooo- with these "diagnosis" and the long list of symptoms that I have it's hard to tell what causes most of the problems for me. If you look up all of the issues on their own each one can cause a lot of the symptoms I have BUT..... I've heard that being Hypo can cause all of the issues (acid reflux, migraines, allergies, glycemic problems etc) as well as all of the symptoms I have. Chicken or the egg.... do I treat each one individually- allergy shots, acid blockers, avoid sugars and carbs- etc, or do I hope that when I see the endo she sees the connection and puts me on a med for the thyroid?!?!
    well enough outta me-

     
    Old 01-11-2004, 03:44 PM   #12
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    seasonal allergies do cause migraines -- i basically was sick from april to october with allergies and concomitant migraines ... then i had the shots and the migraines cleared up about 95% ...

    what a barrel of interconnected stuff we are, MW1 -- sort of like a motherboard or chip or something ... i've had sinus probs. for the past oh, at least 5 years, perhaps 10, and being hypo never occurred to me ... i've never had acid reflux (well, once, but it got better and was a long time ago, so i don't thing that particular occurrance was because thyroid disease) ...

    i think many of our symptoms are subclinical (at least -- perhaps sub-subclinical), so we treat each one and then oops! turns out those were symptoms, rather than the actual cause ...

    i do think that one must treat the symptoms (shots for allergies, ranitidine for acid reflux, support stockings for bloating in my case) as well as the cause, because synthroid/cytomel or armour just don't work well enough ...

    but when you think that every body function is controlled by this little gland -- well who's to say one's ulcer or broken foot or sebaceous cyst or liver cancer isn't due, ultimately, to the breakdown of this butterfly-shaped gland?? you'd think doctors would pay much more attention to this crucial organ, because ultimately, if it doesn't work, nothing works!!

    ah well, maybe someday ...

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    Old 01-11-2004, 10:57 PM   #13
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    I was wondering if anyone has had sinus problems from there thyroid illness. I have extrememly dry sinus's. I have to apply vaseline every few hours just to breathe somewhat normal. Is this related to Thyroid?
    Last fall/winter I didn't have one sinus infection/headache. At that time my thyroid levels were good, especially the T3.
    My thyroid levels began falling probably end of winter last year and bang...sinus (among other things) started up again. I had a sinus infection from July until just after Christmas when it finally got better on antiboitics. It's still not 100% better, just more liveable.
    My personal opinion and experience is yes...thyroid illness contributes to sinus problems.

     
    Old 01-12-2004, 04:57 AM   #14
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    Having been Hypo for years - I can so relate to the sinus infection thing. Mine would usually turn into bronchitis. I honestly was in my doc's office every 4 months or so with bronchitis or a sinus infection. This went on for years -and he never seemed to see the connection between my thyroid being off whack and me getting sick.

    I moved about 2 years ago-and started seeing a new doc (I'm not seeing her anymore). She sent me to get tested for asthma. Well, of course it was during a bronchitis flair-up, so I failed almost every test miserably. I was then sent on to a 'specialist' who put me on steroids, Flonase, Advair, and an inhalor. During that time - I gained a LOT of weight, which didn't help my breathing one bit.
    Every time I would try to get off the steroid, my sinus problems came back.
    last week, I just decided it wasn't worth the rotten side effects of the steroid to stay on it any longer. If all the other meds I'm on can't control my breathing, oh well. (I know - sounds like a rotten attitude, huh?)]

    After my thyroid was removed in December, I had a follow-up with the surgeon. He stuck a tube up my nose and down my throat, and told me I had a lot of inflammation around my voice box. He asked if I ever had heartburn -I told him no (and I don't). He asked me if I ever woke up in the morning coughing up phlem -well YEAH. He also asked me if I cleared my throat a lot- YEP again.

    He said that people with thyroid problems tend to have acid reflux whether they know it or not. And - that the acid reflux can trigger asthma attacks, lead to sinus infections - which can turn into bronchitis.

    Bells started goin off in my head at that point.

    He said that once I got my thyroid leveled off, that a lot of those symptoms should go away -but he did put me on Prevacid, to see if that would help any. He also told me to not eat 3/4 hours before bedtime, and to elevate my shoulders/head eight inches when I slept.

    I tell ya, that has helped so far, and hope it continues to improve.

    Why can't all drs be this informed about what makes your body tick???

     
    Old 01-12-2004, 08:38 AM   #15
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    aint that the truth.....
    I feel like after 10 or so years of being misdiagnosed I am just about at the end of the line ( I hope). I think that all of my issues- allergies, migraines, acid reflux, hypoglycemia- are all related- sure would ne nice. Isn't that tube a lot of fun......

     
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