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    Old 08-16-2004, 09:46 PM   #1
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    allergies and sinus problems

    I am allergic to dust, mold and pollen and have really bad sinus problems and I was wondering if anyone experiences chest discomfort and the feeling of not being aable to get a deep breath with sinus/allergy problems?
    My doc told me i did not have asthma so i am unsure why i feel this way so often. any advice would help thanks!

     
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    Old 08-17-2004, 05:47 AM   #2
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    Re: allergies and sinus problems

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    My doc told me i did not have asthma so i am unsure why i feel this way so often. any advice would help thanks!
    I wonder how your doctor "knew" that you weren't asthmatic? If you have episodes of difficulty breathing it is usually caused by either heart problems or asthma problems. Did your doctor check your heart? How is your blood pressure when you have difficulty breathing? How is your pulse rate? Does your heart jump around and misfire, or race? OTOH, during even a mild asthma episode, the heart may become erratic due to the stress and increased hormones.

    I take it that you don't have a rescue inhaler, so you can't test to see if it would relieve the restrictive breathing.

    What did your doctor tell you caused the tightness in your chest? Did he scratch his head before or after he charged you for his "expert" advice?

    If your doctor cannot properly diagnose your problem, you need to get a more knowledgable doctor.

     
    Old 08-17-2004, 07:45 AM   #3
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    I had pulmonary function testing and I do have a rescue inhaler becuase wheni first had these problems he thought it might me asthma. i also had bad bronchitis and needed the inhaler. After the bronchhitis went away the inhaler no longer helps me at all. My PFT came back fine, and so did all my heart tests. i had 3 EKG's, blood work up the wazoo, chest xrays, ct scans, pretty much everything done. i am only 22 years old!
    The chest pain is basically just a tightness in my chest, which my doc told me could be anxiety since all the tests are normal. and with the breathing, i dont have shortness of breath, just sometimes it is hard to get a good deep breath and i then begin to worry.

    Sometimes i think it is anxiety, but then sometimes i dont. This all started last year when i thought i was going crazy beccause of all these symptoms i had, but was then diagnosed with a hyperthyroid, which made sense with the symptoms. the symptoms subsided while on meds, and then my hypertyroid went away on its own. NOw i am having weird symptroms again, but just had my thyroid checked and its fine, so i am at a loss!

    thanks for your info. sorry this is a lot of rambling, i am just trying to find answers! thanks again

     
    Old 08-17-2004, 09:40 AM   #4
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    Re: allergies and sinus problems

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    The chest pain is basically just a tightness in my chest, which my doc told me could be anxiety since all the tests are normal. and with the breathing, i dont have shortness of breath, just sometimes it is hard to get a good deep breath and i then begin to worry.
    You might have a form of MCS, Multiple Chemical Sensitivies. Many people become very sensitive to their environment, especially after a bad cold. The symptoms of MCS are multiple and varied.

    What it basically means is that anything that touches your skin, that you breathe or smell, or anything that you eat or drink can cause you discomfort or illness.

    There are many MCS information sites around the internet, if you want to do a little research.

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    Sometimes i think it is anxiety, but then sometimes i dont.
    A lot of doctors don't want to appear like they don't have the answers. They charge big bucks, so many of them blame the patient for the patient's misery. If the doc can say that it is your fault, that your nerves or anxiety are causing your illness, then the doctor can still bill you, feel like an expert, but do nothing to help.

    Anxiety and stress can cause a lot of problems, but it doesn't mean that any unexplained illness is caused by it.

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    This all started last year when i thought i was going crazy beccause of all these symptoms i had, but was then diagnosed with a hyperthyroid, which made sense with the symptoms. the symptoms subsided while on meds, and then my hypertyroid went away on its own. NOw i am having weird symptroms again, but just had my thyroid checked and its fine, so i am at a loss!

    thanks for your info. sorry this is a lot of rambling, i am just trying to find answers! thanks again
    If you can't find an answer, you might want to start removing chemicals, inks, certain foods and drinks, from your environment in an attempt to find the offending items.

    Best of luck to you and with your health!

     
    Old 08-19-2004, 10:46 PM   #5
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    Hi
    I just wanted to reply here, because I m basically feeling the same way you are feeling. I ve been to the dr god knows how many times. It gets to a point where I m feeling like they are getting tired of having me over there. It gets to a point where I try my best to think positive and try to overlook whatever problem I might have. I get my allergy shots every week for the past 3 years then my health insurance stopped cuz it was related to expire. But anyway I m on short term health ins. and aplying for new one, and hopefully will begin end of month or middle of september. so it doesnt cover anything I ve went to. So everything comes out of my pocket. I thought maybe I could stretch it out to 3 weeks. I m not sure if that s a good idea or not.

    But basically what you have described. I am going thru that right now. Its not the most pleasant thing to go thru. I have like sinus headache or if that s what it is.. I ve been on numerous of antibotics. I did have sinus ct scan last year, and sinus xray, chest xray, i also had ekg. but it was done in the dr s office so it wasnt like the full exam or maybe that is considered ekg. I am allergic to mold, dust, pollen, ragweed, tree, grass, tobacco, cat. But sometimes I feel like when I go to my allergist specialist, he s a very well known person. He goes on radio several times. But I feel like its always "hurry hurry" in the office. He s the only dr with like 6 or 7 nurses. and he s in and out each room. I also have mild asthma. But everytime when I have breathing problem like hard time to have deep breath. It could get to point where I feel like my chest feels funny or congested. or feelign tightness.. I ll go to see my allergy dr and he ll give me breathing test (75 dollars) and do his routine (59 dollars) and says ur asthma is fine i ll see u later all this in 5 mins and cost me 134 dollars and i still go home feeling the same. Its not fun to go thru this. I m sorry to ramble on here.. But when I read your post, man I was like wow someone out there is feeling the same way.. maybe not the whole thing I described, but the symptoms u are feeling.

    Oh I also did go to ENT but the problem is that my health ins expired. I know my new temp wont accept covering them. And the 2 times I went there. I saw on my dr s bill which was covered by the health insurance I had before each visit was approx 800 dollars. I mean jesus! I cannot afford that.

    i wonder if you have experienced light headed feeling, or "fog brain" or feeling like ur out of sync not able to concentrate good. sometimes when that happens when the sinus is pressuring and maybe breathing becomes little hard to take deep breath and then i start to get worried.. and when that happens.. it feels like i m dying or something... so I d have to keep myself busy doing things to try take my mind off of it.I try to figure if its alergy or this or that. It gets to the point where I m feeling like i m overanalyzing it. Or perhaps I could be right with those triggers.
    I hope I make sense with what I say and hope someone does relate with me.

    thanks for hearing me out...

     
    Old 08-20-2004, 08:45 AM   #6
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    Re: allergies and sinus problems

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    Hi
    I just wanted to reply here, because I m basically feeling the same way you are feeling. I ve been to the dr god knows how many times. It gets to a point where I m feeling like they are getting tired of having me over there.
    Of course they are tired of you. They are supposed to be the high paid "experts" but they can't solve your problems. They don't mind charging you full price, but they don't want to hear you, see you or speak to you.

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    It gets to a point where I try my best to think positive and try to overlook whatever problem I might have.
    When you get little help from the high paid experts, it's difficult to remain positive.

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    I get my allergy shots every week for the past 3 years then my health insurance stopped cuz it was related to expire.
    I had allergy shots. I've also had acupuncure treatments. I also avoid things that I breathe or smell, things that touch my skin, or things that I eat or drink that aggravate my allergies. Between the two, I've seen significant improvements to my allergies.

    I wonder if, after three years, are you getting diminishing returns? Have you already gotten most of the benefit from the shots? Has he changed the types of shots you are getting, except making them stronger?

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    I have like sinus headache or if that s what it is.. I ve been on numerous of antibotics. I did have sinus ct scan last year, and sinus xray, chest xray, i also had ekg. but it was done in the dr s office so it wasnt like the full exam or maybe that is considered ekg.
    What do you think of flooding your sinuses with peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt, as a treatment for sinus infection. It costs nothing! If interested read the thread New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation. at [url]http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765[/url]

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    I am allergic to mold, dust, pollen, ragweed, tree, grass, tobacco, cat.
    Same here. Currently I've got my sinuses and asthma under control, but I have significant problems with my heart misfiring, and with high blood pressure, due to these allergens.

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    But sometimes I feel like when I go to my allergist specialist, he s a very well known person. He goes on radio several times. But I feel like its always "hurry hurry" in the office. He s the only dr with like 6 or 7 nurses. and he s in and out each room.
    Are you being helped by him? If not, you might consider other options. You need him to provide you with prescriptions for allergy meds. Other than that, you can do a lot more to help yourself than he can do.

    Allergies are very complex. I'll guarantee you that what is causing your allergies is not just one allergen, but many allergens. Some allergens are worse than others. But even if you remove your worst allergens, you probably will continue to suffer from allergies until you remove enough allergens to make a difference.

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    I also have mild asthma. But everytime when I have breathing problem like hard time to have deep breath. It could get to point where I feel like my chest feels funny or congested. or feelign tightness..
    I get three different types of asthma. One is where I suffer from wheezing. Another is where my lungs close up totally and I can't breath at all. The other, and most common, is where I feel pressure in my chest, it takes more effort to breathe, and I can't breathe out all the way. That sounds like what you are going thru.

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    I ll go to see my allergy dr and he ll give me breathing test (75 dollars) and do his routine (59 dollars) and says ur asthma is fine i ll see u later all this in 5 mins and cost me 134 dollars and i still go home feeling the same. Its not fun to go thru this.
    He sounds like a real jerk. He portrays himself as an expert, but he is not capable of diagnosing your asthma problems, or providing you with any meaningful solution, all at a cost of $134 wasted dollars! I always feel scammed when I leave an allergist's office.

    He is not embarrassed to fail in treating you and he is not embarrassed in taking your money. He doesn't have to do anything for his money.

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    I m sorry to ramble on here..
    Healthboards is a great place to ramble. And...... it doesn't cost anything.

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    i wonder if you have experienced light headed feeling, or "fog brain" or feeling like ur out of sync not able to concentrate good.
    That is a very common allergy problem. During an allergic reaction the body pumps all kinds of hormones (chemicals) into the blood stream, having all kinds of side effects. (ref: endocrine system). When those chemicals enter the circulation it is similar to you actually taking a drug.

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    sometimes when that happens when the sinus is pressuring and maybe breathing becomes little hard to take deep breath and then i start to get worried.. and when that happens.. it feels like i m dying or something...
    I've been there. Of all my heart and allergy problems, the one I hate the worst is when I have problems breathing. I can deal the the heart misfiring. I can deal with the brain fog, the sweating, the problems concentrating,etc., but I hate it when I have pressure in my chest.

    I've got some suggestions for you.

    First of all, for your breathing problems....... You can buy a set of five, blue surgical masks at the largest discount store for about $3. When my breathing starts becoming restrictive, I wear one of these masks. Within about 30 minutes, my breathing returns to normal.

    The bed is the worst place for allergies. I sleep in a surgical mask. It helps quite a bit.

    Do you use fabric softeners on your clothes, bedding, towels? There are strong chemicals in the softeners. If you are just allergic to two of the chemicals, then you are exposing your body to these chemicals 24 hours per day. My wife uses distilled white vinegar instead of the fabric softener, and throws a washcloth soaked in hydrogen peroxide into the washer.

    We wash our clothes with baking soda, not detergent.

    We don't use artificial sweeteners.

    We avoid most chemical cleaners or petroleum products.

    For fruits, I only eat only water melon (thick skin protects from chemicals) , canned pears and peaches. I avoid fresh apples, pears, peaches, strawberries because I don't want to ingest the chemicals that were sprayed on them.

    I don't eat lunchmeats to avoid the preservatives. I don't eat frozen dinners, or prepackaged meals. I avoid all gravies, sauces or desserts, unless they are home made.

    I seldom eat takeouts.

    I wear gloves when reading to avoid inks and the chemicals on the paper.

    In other words, I avoid as many chemicals as I can. I limit what I eat. I wear a mask to avoid breathing in pollens and pollutants and molds. It works for me. My allergies, my heart disease, my blood pressure problems, are doing better than ever.

    Make up your own list. Sit down and figure out how many different chemicals, foods, odors, drinks, that you come into contact with every day, and start crossing off those that you don't absolutely need to come into contact.

    Sometimes it takes over three days to get over an allergic reaction, so if you are going to eliminate something, a positive effect may not happen for several days.

    Sorry to ramble so much back at you.

    Regards, and best of luck and health to you.

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    Old 08-21-2004, 08:00 PM   #7
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    I just want to say I'm sorry someone else is having this problem, but I'm also glad I'm not the only one. Shortness of breath and the weird, dizzy feeling in my head....OMG it really drives me up the wall. I have a slight TMJ and the past two days trying to catch my breath in a yawn-like manner has made my jaw ache. I plan to try Chlor-Tremeton ASAP eventhough I'm not crazy about the way antihistamines make me feel (I'm ready to try anything). I can't take Claritan D at night because it keeps me awake so, I'll try Claritan in the morning and Chlor-Temeton at night....worth a shot. Oh, and BTW the docs have always told me I suffer from anxiety, but I'm starting to think it's much more than that. How many people have been mis-diagnosed over the years, I wonder? Best of luck to you all suffering with the dizzy/hard to breathe curse!

     
    Old 08-22-2004, 08:54 PM   #8
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    Just wanted to say while PFT's are great for diagnosing an asthma FLARE UP.. they are not always DIAGNOSTIC of ASTHMA itself.
    You should ask your doctor about having a methacholine challenge done, this will be best to determine if your airways are twitchy.
    Keep in mind still though that tests ALWAYS have a significant rate of false negatives & positives.
    For example, earlier this year, my dad was admitted to the hospital with chest pain(he had had triple bypass a few weeks earlier) & they "saw" something wrong w/ his heartbeat. Turns out it was an equipment problem!
    Situation #2, yet again w/ my dad. Had an Xray of the chest, they "saw" a tumor in his chest on his lungs.. again.. it turned out to be problem with the xray film(dark spot on there).
    So remember, your symptoms are always the best judge & you are your best doctor. You can always try seeing another doctor. For me, when I had allergy testing done & got back the results.. they were no surprise whatsoever to me, I had suspected those triggers all along. there is plenty that can be done for asthma on your own at home. Try to allergen proof your home. You may not come up allergic to anything but most of these are still respiratory irritants anyways. Avoid any kind of respiratory irritants such as cigarette smoke, smoke, cold air, really hot air, home cleaning solutions(try to stick to more "wholesome" cleaning methods), etc, etc. Beerzoids gave some great ideas. anyways hope your breathing easier soon..

     
    Old 10-10-2004, 01:35 AM   #9
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    wow. finally, other people who experience my pain.

    i'm congested pretty much the whole day. some days i experience tightness in my chest. i'm so wrapped up concentrating on my breathing. my doctor doesn't know why my chest is like this. his only solution was to give me an inhaler.

    i've visited the ER twice this year due to my breathing/ chest problems. once it gets into my head my breathing pattern changes.

    i believe all of this stems from my constant congestion. i'm allergic to dust and mold. i get my weekly allergy shots. honestly, nothing seems to be working.

     
    Old 10-12-2004, 12:05 AM   #10
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    OMG! I had this same problem. Exactly how you described it, my chest would get tight, and I coudn't get a deep breath or had trouble breathing out. After a normal pulmonary function test, my primary doctor told me it was anxiety. I knew it wasn't, and he got fed up and snippy with me. Then I went to my allergist. He looked at the results of the pulmonary function test, and said although they were within the normal limits, they were low for my age. After examining me, he ordered a CT scan of my sinuses. He was confident that I had a "stealth" sinus infection that was draining into my chect and causing my symptoms. There is a name for it, It's called sino-bronchial syndrome. (btw chest x-rays are usually normal with this condition) And he was absolutely right. The CT scan showed a sinus infection as well as other sinus problems. After my sinus surgery, my shortness of breath disappeared.

    Now if I start to get that feeling, I know it stems from sinsus congestion and I take decongestants and increase my sinus drainages.

     
    Old 10-12-2004, 02:36 AM   #11
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    I'm having trouble sleeping tonight due to chest discomfort. My nose is totally congested again. I think will call my doctor tomorrow. I hate dealing with my doctor. Last couple of times when I called, he just dismissed the chest discomfort as anxiety and my breathing problems as allergies. I've asked to see an ENT yet he tells me its only allergies not sinus problems. It'll probably be another wasted call or quick office visit ($20 co-pay wasted).

     
    Old 10-13-2004, 01:12 AM   #12
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    He admits your breathing problem might be allergy related, and yet dismisses your chest tightness as anxiety? It sounds like you need to find a better doctor. Allergies CAN cause sinus problems, and not everyone with a sinus infection blows nasty yellow gunk out their nose. The only symptoms of my sinus infection was thick post nasal drip and the chest tightness. It is your doctor's job to find out what is wrong with you, and if he can't you need to be referred to someone who can.

    In the meantime, I'd try taking some mucinex. It will help thin out any post nasal drip and mucus in your chest. Good luck!

     
    Old 10-14-2004, 08:58 PM   #13
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    You're probably not going to like this response, but I get that same feeling of not being able to take a deep breath. I feel like my chest is tight and it also makes me a little nauseous which doesn't really make sense. But...now this is the part you won't like...my doctor also suggested to me that it was anxiety. I was prescribed Ativan which is an "as needed" drug for anxiety rather than a daily med. When I have this problem it clears up within ten minutes after taking the Ativan. NOW it may just help because it calms me down which then helps my breathing, or it may be that it helps my real problem: anxiety. I still refuse to believe that all of my problems are anxiety related, though. I get the dizzy, foggy head when it gets bad, I get the lightheadedness, and of course the shortness of breath. I KNOW that some of it OR all of it for that matter, is allergy related. I don't really know why or how the Ativan helps me. Maybe it's a mix of allergies and anxiety for me, I don't know.

    Believe me, I'm the last person who wants to hear from ANOTHER doctor that all of my problems are anxiety related, but I don't know how to explain this reaction to the med. Good luck!
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    Old 10-15-2004, 03:11 AM   #14
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    You're probably not going to like this response, but I get that same feeling of not being able to take a deep breath. I feel like my chest is tight and it also makes me a little nauseous which doesn't really make sense.
    I noticed on another thread that you complained about a fast heart beat, around 100 beats per minute. How long has that been going on? Is your pulse always fast, or just once in a while?

     
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    It's fast most of the time. That's been going on for a while but I don't know exactly how long. The last three times I've been to the doctor it's been 90-100. The other night I took my pulse in a completely relaxed, resting position and it was around 80.
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