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    Old 04-05-2010, 11:11 PM   #16
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    Lisa Jane,

    Thanks for the info. Apart from the vitamins, everything else is basic sleep hygiene. I have been doing "Body for Life" for years and its a balanced protein emphasized (not Atkins) way of eating that has you eat 5-6 tims a day. In between Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner I have a high protein snack like a protein shake or bar. Meals consist of 4-6 oz of lean protein, a green veggie and a complex carb. On this eating style I have lost 40lbs.

    I don't drink any surgary drinks and rarely have something that is diet. I drink water.

    Can you tell me more about how these vitamins help with chronic insomnia? I had to take Magnesium once and it was in pill form. I couldn't lay down for 30 mins because its pretty harsh on the stomach. I am open to all solutions but have to see the science behind it and I have never seen this come up in any of my research. Can you help me out with it?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    Hello Bilbo. I also suffer from severe insomnia caused by chronic neck pain.

    I believe you cannot sleep at night cause you suffer from severe pain. I would suggest trying morphine. Some people in our forum said it helps them sleep.

    Once you don't suffer from pain you will be able to sleep.

    Let me know how you doing.

     
    Old 04-07-2010, 01:35 AM   #18
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    Hey No change. Still struggling to fall asleep. Didn't fall asleep till 5am yesterday and got up at 11am. Not going well. Really frustrated with my GP. Some of the meds he has scribed are just, well, wrong!,

    I should have added that I was on 40 mg of Methadone + 1-4 10/325 Norco per day. Wish I had room in my siggy. At first the Methadone made me a bit sleepy but not enough to fall asleep. After my lower back 3 level fusion with the Dynesys System (look it up, its pretty cool if you are not familiar with it). I was taking about 300 mg/day of Avinza or Kadian (time released morphine) and it didn't make me sleepy. The only time mophine made me sleepy was post op and I think that had just as much to do with the anesthesia and the healing process. Thanks for the idea. Unfortunately this is chronic, hard core insomnia where 4 mg of xanax doesn't work. Valuim doesn't work. Klonopin, trazadone, Ambien, Lunesta, Fluraxepam, Mirtazapine and Risperidone all failed. Ambien worked for a good time but I became tolerant. They work if combined with Xanax but it still takes me forever to fall asleep and the combo cause me to sleep to late. If I try to get up at a reasonable hour I am soooo groggy.

    I have given up on my GP and told him I want to see a specialist. Especially after prescribing Risperedone which is NOT a tranquilizer like he said. In fact he kidding called it a HORSE TRANQUILIZER. He was alluding to my size at 6'5/280lbs. He also called it some very heavy duty artillery. It's a dang Anti-Psychotic mainly for kids with Autism and schizophrenia. No wonder the pharmacist looked at me funny when I told him it was prescribed for Insomnia. Its the 1st time during a "pharmacist consult" that he just told me to read "this page" and walked off. Normally they tell you what its for and the side effects. It was very weird.

    Someday I will sleep. Feel like I have the movie "The Machinist" playing on loop! Well, maybe not that bad. Good movie for those whole like Christian Bale and Insomnia, puzzles and twisted hullucinations....lol
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    Old 04-07-2010, 01:49 AM   #19
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

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    Lisa Jane,

    Thanks for the info. Apart from the vitamins, everything else is basic sleep hygiene. I have been doing "Body for Life" for years and its a balanced protein emphasized (not Atkins) way of eating that has you eat 5-6 tims a day. In between Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner I have a high protein snack like a protein shake or bar. Meals consist of 4-6 oz of lean protein, a green veggie and a complex carb. On this eating style I have lost 40lbs.

    I don't drink any surgary drinks and rarely have something that is diet. I drink water.

    Can you tell me more about how these vitamins help with chronic insomnia? I had to take Magnesium once and it was in pill form. I couldn't lay down for 30 mins because its pretty harsh on the stomach. I am open to all solutions but have to see the science behind it and I have never seen this come up in any of my research. Can you help me out with it?

    Thanks.

     
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    Hi Billbo,

    Happy to give you as much good info as I can about vitamins and minerals to help chronic insomnia.

    You sound to me to be suffering from chronic calcium and magnesium and vitamin D deficiency. Someone who has back (both skeletal and muscular and nerve) problems usually has this deficiency.

    Also a lack of these nutrients can also cause you to wake up after a few hours and not be able to return to sleep. Restless legs syndrome and constipation,cramps,and indigestion/reflux,heart palpitations,anxiety,high blood pressure and are also signs of a deficiency.

    Magnesium on its own will not be as effective with helping to relax all muscles and then sleep. You must take it as

    calcium citrate ,calcium carbonate 2000mgs per day

    magnesium citrate,magnesium oxide 1000 mgs perday

    vitamin D3 1000iu per day

    This form is also no problem for your gut.

    Take it AM and PM. The night time dose close to bedtime. and if you wake up in the middle of the night take another dose. It does not make you groggy. No other bad side effects also, only good ones.

    This is something everyone should be taking every day. I make sure I take Active Calcium Plus every day and especially night. It works beautifully.

    I also take the best fish oil tablet I can. and a glucosamine and tumeric for back problems. (the tumeric is a natural painkiller and anti inflamatory).


    There is lots of information about this both online and in great refererence books. I like Prescription for Nutritional Healing by Phyllis and James Balch.

    I hope that this info is helpful for you. A lot of the drugs you are taking may also contribute to your insomnia.

    So many of my friends have had great results with this.

     
    Old 04-07-2010, 10:14 AM   #21
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    I am sorry Lisa Jane. I eat very very healthy. I follow a very regimented Body for Life plan. If you are not familiar with it Google it since we can't post links to outside sites here. I eat fish 2-3 times a week and eat a small amount of peanut butter that is loaded with bioavailable Omega 3.I eat a green veggie with just about every meal. My intake is 40/30/30. 40 protein, 30 complex carbs and 30 essential fats. Trust me when I say that my nutritional intake couldn't be better.

    On top of that, not but 2 months ago, during this bout with insomnia, I had my biannual blood test to check out liver, kidney and metabolic functions. I do this twice a year because of the meds and my liver/kidneys/testosterone. These vitamins were all tested and were perfect. That is why I asked for [b]scientific[\b] background to support your claims.

    You lost me when you said that some of the meds I am taking can cause insomnia. Care to share that info with me? Just because in the pharmacology literature its says that 1/1000 suffered insomnia doesn't mean the drug causes insomnia. Heck, the placebo could have been higher. I find it interesting that of the 4 meds that I take everyday, 2 say right on the label that they may cause drowsiness (Methadone/Hydrocodone). The 3rd is specifically designed to cause drowsiness (xanax) and the 4th is neither/nor (celexa).

    Listen, I don't mean to sound like I am bashing you. I really do appreciate the care and motive behind what you are saying. I am sorry that I just patently disagree with your ideas based on my own recent blood test and all of the scientific literature I have read from all types of sites and I never saw anything about what you claim.

    I have had bouts of insomnia all my life. I also know magnesium can help with muscle problems. Those muscle problems are what I can only call stage 1 problems. Like I said, I took Pharm Grade magnesium and I just checked my med log which told me I took potassium too. I took all this stuff when my problems 1st started and they didn't do squat. I also was taking Move Free Glucosamine and Chondroitin for my muscle problems, I tried MSM and a bunch of OTA supplements. I am very open minded. I used to be able to take melatonin to sleep. After a couple years it stopped working. Sometimes problems are more severe than a simple fix.

    Thanks for the advise and the time you spent typing it. I am sorry to say that this is CHRONIC insomnia. The type where 6 mg of Xanax doesn't knock you out. The type where 30mg of Klonopin doesn't cut it. 2-5mg of Valium doesn't work. And trust me, I am an expert at sleep hygiene. Once again, thanks.
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    Old 04-08-2010, 01:14 AM   #22
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    hey bilbo, I really FEEL for you. I have the same problem. My doctor did the normal blood work and it came back fine. I still can't sleep. Yesterday I didn't take any sleeping pills and was able to sleep 1 hours. I'm getting so tired of this situation. I've also tried most of the sleeping pills in the market. didn't try xanax or clonazapam, do you think I should try??

    Oh, I wanted to tell you valium is not meant for sleeping. didn't help me.

    I didn't have any sleeping problems and was able to sleep 8-9 hours till this whiplash happened.

    When you rest your NECK on the pillow do you feel pain or pain free? I would like to know.

    I'm sick and tired of this situation. I also need to sleep and getting really tired of this. been like that for 5 years. help.

    p.s how were you injured? please tell me. and just know, you are not alone with this one. It's horrible not being able to sleep or having deep sleep.

    please answer back. thank you.

     
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    and bilbo I have this problem that nobody in this forum has. I cannot REST my neck on the pillow at all times cause it hurts. I have to take percocet/oxycontin in order to not feel pain and being able to rest my neck on the pillow. Percocet allows me to sleep some.

    MRI showed 2 bulging disks in my neck cause of the whiplash/car accident-didn't have any surgery done. Doctor thinks I have TMJ also.

    If you have heard what can be done about that and sleep I would like to know.

    Oh I wish I could sleep again 8-9 hours. This is unbelievable with all the tech in this world there is no solution to my problem.

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    Old 04-08-2010, 03:22 AM   #24
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    No Change,
    I feel your pain. Not sleeping AND being in pain at the same time is a cruel joke by whomever is running the show. Ya I know about Valium. Valium is xanax's big brother.
    Where xanax is very fast acting and lasts about 3-4 hours, Valium take longer to get going and it lasts longer (longer half life). Bottom line is they both have sedative properties but they can be terribly addicting.

    Clonazepam is another benzodiazepine like xanax (Alprazolam) and Valium (Diazepam). Clonanepam is brand name Klonopin and its really an anticonvulsant and muscle relaxer that also has sleep inducing properties. It works for some. A gal that I dated before I met my Wife had Restless Leg Syndrome and mild insomnia and that is what she took. I worked great for her. Not for me.

    As far as my medical history, its long but I will try to keep it short.
    In High School I was involved in a freak accident where, during a kickoff, the kicker shanked the ball and instead of going far back to one of the return guys it came straight at me. I was way up front and my job was to block. I caught the ball and looked around and realized I was toast. There was nobody close enough to block the whole other team that was sprinting down the feild like rabid wolves. They figured if the hit me hard enough I would cough up the ball and fumble it. I took two steps and tried to just go to the ground but I was too late. As far as I know, at least three of their biggest guys hit me at the same time and one hit me right in the head. I had my head down as if I was looking at the ground. So when he hit me it compressed my neck really bad and gave me a horrible concussion. I was knocked out cold but held onto the ball ;-). This was a 1/10000 type deal so its no reason to ban HS Football. Plus, I was the one who put my head down wrong. Anyway, after that I couldn't play the last 3 games of the season and was in a neck brace. I was occassionally having numbness in my elbow and fingers but within a few months it went away.

    Fast forward to my Junior year in College. I was working part time at a John Deere tractor dealership and shop so I could put myself through Chico State. I was on the steam rack where we pull big tractors up and steam clean them with pressurized 220* steam/water via this big wand similar to the ones you see and a DIY car wash. I was standing on top of a tractor, straddling the seat while I cleaned the top of the motor. I went to move but I didn't realize that when I got up there, the parking brake handle had somehow gone up my pant leg. I lost my balance because I was expecting my leg to move and it didn't and I started to fall. I tossed the steam wand in the other direction I was falling and then fell 6 ft onto and concrete slab with about 6" of mud and grease on it. The mud wad actually a saving grace because it softened the blow. I landed on my right hip/butt and my head bounced off the muddy concrete and knew right away that something was wrong. I could move everything but I could not get up. Within a minute or two someone noticed the steam just blowing in one direction and came and found me. Bottom line, I herniated 3 disks in my lumbar spine and got another whopper of a concussion. My neck was tight but I didn't know problems had already started there. 4 months later I had two seperate "lumbar laminectomies". I had three very bulging disks and lucky that none of them ruptured. Fortunately I had kept my work out regiment going and I was running 5-7 miles 3x a week. If I had been out of shape the Dr said I would have ruptured at least one. Two were definitely pushing on the nerve roots going out of the right side of my spine and into my legs which cause terrible stabing pains in my right leg and right butt cheek. I had two surgeries because the nimrod Dr. I had then (this was 1992/1993) was terrible. While he was operating on my, even though the plan was to shave the offending parts of the disk of at two levels he said that he inspected both by eye (and head mounted scope) and one looked fine. The MRI said otherwise. So the idiot only did one disk. After I healed, what do you know, I still had the same problems!! He tried Physical Therapy and all kinds off meds and it just didnt respond so 8 months after the 1st surgery we are back on the table doing the 2nd. Back then the didn't use arthroscopic techniques for the spine yet. At least not where I lived. I was 23 with a 9" Frankenstein scar on my low back. After it healed an I did extensive PT I got back to about 85-90% I couldn't run anymore so my workouts had to be adjusted and sometimes it would still flair up so I stopped working out religiously. I finished college and had plans to go to Law School but (I hate to get political) Mr Raygun as part of his tax cuts for the rich, he cut the Social Security Survivors Benefits that I was getting because my Mother died when I was 14 and my dad was a low life drunk. So I was supposed to get that money as long as I stayed in college up to age 24. It was like $350 month which was a lot in then (college 1986-95). Surgeries put me on the 9 year plan. Point is that the money I thought I was going to get forced my to work more hours which hurt my grades and that forced me to start taking out Pell Grants. After I got my B.A. in Political Science I did some real soul searching about going to law school. I had good grades but not UC Berkely Holt Law School. I was looking at smaller/cheaper schools and just couldnt justify owing $150k by the time I was done. I already owed $13k which seamed like a mountain to me. At this time (1995) my back and neck were pretty good.

    I ended up getting a job in finance. Great job but bad for the back. Flying a desk in terrible for a 6'5' guy with a bad back. Ergonomics were all wrong with the chair and cubical. Anyway, I started having flair ups that would force me to use my vacation on.

    I managed to stay out of trouble until 2003. I was driving down a busy road where I live now and some lady came flying out of and Burger King Drive Thru (she made an illegal turn) and she nailed me in the passanger side front corner of my 1 year old Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer. I was going 35 mph and they estimated she hit 20mph in the short distance she traveled. Anyway, the seat belt grabbed me pretty hard and my neck snapped forward. Wasn't fast enough for the airbags to deploy. While my baby was in the shop I had a rental and I was out of town visiting two brothers and a nephew who just had turned 21. We took him out for his 1st legal beer and had dinner. I was following one of my brothers to his house as I was staying with you. We were in the middle of a torrential rain storm and I could barely see out of this car I had only driven a day or so. I knew the road like the back of my had....at least I thought I did. A stupid but strange sequence of events took place. While driving my cell phone went off and I knew it was my wife calling to say goodnight. I reached for the phone and accidentally pushed it onto the floor. I have long arms so I look at the road and knew we were on a long straight country Highway and I could see my brothers tail lights way up in front of me. I reached down to the floor of this sedan and grabbed my phone and on the way up BAM! I ran right into the rear end of my brother. They had just put in a new stop sign a week prior and he had waited for me to catch up. I was in the most awkward position when I hit him. Because of the rain I was going about 45. Airbag didn't go off even though they are supposed to at 35mph collision. I snapped the seat belt in half and hit the stearing wheel. This is the crucial part and its hard to explain in just text. Because I was shifted to the right with my right arm extended out I hit the steering wheel with my left side of my chest and my right shoulder and arm kept going. The force nearly dislocated my shoulder. What it did do is bring to light that old neck injury from football and falling off the tractor. My right arm went numb and I felt like I had a knife cramed in between my spine and my right shoulder blade in a muscle group called the rhomboids. Excessive PT and lots of morphine did nothing. I lived in misery for several months. I had an MRI of my neck done and it showed severe narrowing of the space where the nerve root comes out of the spine and through the vertebrae and off into the neck and arms. That is what lead to the two level neck fusion. While recovering from that I was living a very sedentary lifestyle and was very depressed. I was making very very good money as a regional manager for a wholesale mortgage company. That was over and right at the height of the market. This sedentary depressed lifestyle led me to eating too much and I gained 50lbs. The extra weight around the mid section made my previous lumbar problems worse. An MRI showed 3 deteriorating disk that we dessicated (completely dried out). They were worthless and needed to come out fast. That led to a 11 hour long triple level lumbar fusion. I also had my shoulder scoped by Dr. Eric Heiden (if you ever watched Olympic Speed Skating you know who he is). He had the nerve to tell me after the surgery that he "didn't think there was anything in there to clean out but at least it gave him time to practice." I about punched him but my arm hurt so bad. I also had a hernia repaired and a pilonidal cyst removed from my tailbone. I had this very fibrous cyst that had corkscrewed from my tailbone to (there in no other way to put it) the base of my butt crack. You know plumber butt crack, lol. Oh man that hurt. He had to cut all this tissue out and then pack it with strips of gauze and I had to heal from the inside out. That cyst was a nightmare. I couldn't sit down for 3 weeks before the surgery and two after.

    So thats the short of it. A 20 year span of some really bad luck, some stupid mistakes.....oh, I also found out that somewhere in the last 10 years my body pretty much stopped producing testosterone. So now I am on Hormone Replacement Therapy. My hands hurt from tryping. Hopefully reading this made you sleepy. Its 3am and I got to try and sleep.....see ya.
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    No Change - If conventional conservative methods like Physical therapy and meds are not working talk to your surgeon about options.

    I do have problems with my neck at night. I have two 100% very high quality down feather pillows (small ones, probably size single) that cost $100 each. I tried memory foam and it was too hot.

    As for sleep I have no clue. Make sure you sleep hygiene is solid. If your not sure what that means the google it. It made a big difference for me....when I could sleep. For pain, tell you Dr. you are suffering....

    more later I can type anymore...
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    Hey No change. Still struggling to fall asleep. Didn't fall asleep till 5am yesterday and got up at 11am. Not going well. Really frustrated with my GP. Some of the meds he has scribed are just, well, wrong!,

    I should have added that I was on 40 mg of Methadone + 1-4 10/325 Norco per day. Wish I had room in my siggy. At first the Methadone made me a bit sleepy but not enough to fall asleep. After my lower back 3 level fusion with the Dynesys System (look it up, its pretty cool if you are not familiar with it). I was taking about 300 mg/day of Avinza or Kadian (time released morphine) and it didn't make me sleepy. The only time mophine made me sleepy was post op and I think that had just as much to do with the anesthesia and the healing process. Thanks for the idea. Unfortunately this is chronic, hard core insomnia where 4 mg of xanax doesn't work. Valuim doesn't work. Klonopin, trazadone, Ambien, Lunesta, Fluraxepam, Mirtazapine and Risperidone all failed. Ambien worked for a good time but I became tolerant. They work if combined with Xanax but it still takes me forever to fall asleep and the combo cause me to sleep to late. If I try to get up at a reasonable hour I am soooo groggy.

    I have given up on my GP and told him I want to see a specialist. Especially after prescribing Risperedone which is NOT a tranquilizer like he said. In fact he kidding called it a HORSE TRANQUILIZER. He was alluding to my size at 6'5/280lbs. He also called it some very heavy duty artillery. It's a dang Anti-Psychotic mainly for kids with Autism and schizophrenia. No wonder the pharmacist looked at me funny when I told him it was prescribed for Insomnia. Its the 1st time during a "pharmacist consult" that he just told me to read "this page" and walked off. Normally they tell you what its for and the side effects. It was very weird.

    Someday I will sleep. Feel like I have the movie "The Machinist" playing on loop! Well, maybe not that bad. Good movie for those whole like Christian Bale and Insomnia, puzzles and twisted hullucinations....lol
    Hello!

    How are you Biblo?

    I am doing some browsing today and trying to catch up with past threads
    so I found the link to follow them again.

    Still the ongoing trying to fall asleep, sleep well and wake up without
    feeling to groggy. I can only imagine how frustrating it all is!

    I don't remember if you ever mentioned having a sleep study done for
    a 3 day intake at the hospital sleep study centers? It seems you did but
    I'd have to reread all posts. Anyway the study would show all the things
    that you already know about yourself and sleep patterns, why and etc.
    You are so abreast of your challenges that it most likely would not reveil
    anything you did not already know.

    I had a study done years ago. May have one done again soon although
    I am presently doing decently.

    The medication arena........it can be a vicious cycle of trial and error
    can't it, and then at best sometimes it still is not much to sink ones
    teeth into.

    Warmest regards in your journey,

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    Thanks for the reply Janaly,

    I talked to my Dr about a sleep study and he didn't like the idea. He also said that if they were able to do a real time MRI of my brain at what should be bedtime it would be lit up like a Christmas tree.

    We have come to a few conslusions.

    1) Don't fight it. If I can't sleep, don't just lay their and get frustrated. Get up and do something. Read, watch TV or play games on my Xbox.

    2) If I do stay awake through the night don't keep trying to sleep during the day. It just perpetuates the cycle. Try and stay away until bedtime and go to bed. If I should fall asleep and sleep for more than 4-5 hours and wake, then get up and start the day.

    3) Back on Ambien 10mg with 1-2 mg xanax. Started it Monday and it has worked but the xanax makes me oversleep. Got to find the right balance.

    4) Do whatever exercise i can do. Get more active. Make the body NEED restorative sleep.

    That is the plan. Will let all know if a few weeks if it has resolved itself. Thanks!
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    Old 04-10-2010, 10:06 PM   #28
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

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    Thanks for the reply Janaly,

    I talked to my Dr about a sleep study and he didn't like the idea. He also said that if they were able to do a real time MRI of my brain at what should be bedtime it would be lit up like a Christmas tree.

    We have come to a few conslusions.

    1) Don't fight it. If I can't sleep, don't just lay their and get frustrated. Get up and do something. Read, watch TV or play games on my Xbox.

    2) If I do stay awake through the night don't keep trying to sleep during the day. It just perpetuates the cycle. Try and stay away until bedtime and go to bed. If I should fall asleep and sleep for more than 4-5 hours and wake, then get up and start the day.

    3) Back on Ambien 10mg with 1-2 mg xanax. Started it Monday and it has worked but the xanax makes me oversleep. Got to find the right balance.

    4) Do whatever exercise i can do. Get more active. Make the body NEED restorative sleep.

    That is the plan. Will let all know if a few weeks if it has resolved itself. Thanks!
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    Hello Bilbo,

    `1-4 sounds like a plan! I will be thinking of you as I check in each day
    to these threads. My most compassionate caring to your sleep issues
    and challenges. I say that from the heart. Because sleep deprivation and
    related issues are beyond horrible I know. For those who have never
    suffered or been challenged with insomnia, they can hope and pray it
    never knocks on their door. It can be an immense heartache and real
    struggle can't it!

    p.s. and of course can effect every aspect of ones life.

    I've had severe bouts of insomnia that would knock a train off it's
    tracks! Therefore figuratively speaking, I was knocked into deep sleep
    deprivation and issues. No fun, serious, and emotionally and mentally
    disabling. SO although I am functioning fairly decently at present with
    my sleep, I cannot be sure when the train will jump the tracks again.

    Janaly...(hugs)
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    Bilbo, what meds are you taking for pain right now?

    I think I will go back to my doctor and ask for clonezepam and then will try xanax and then ambien?? or should I try clonezepam and xanax together??do you think that's a good plan?. I'll let you know how things are.

    Oh, I'm starting to fall asleep on day time, what do you think it is?. Wherever I go I shut my eyes. WHat's that??I need your help again. feel like cryingnever ending story 5 years!!!I need to have my LIFE back on track.

    Thank you for sharing your story with us. I also didn't have much luck in this life. One freak accident called a whiplash can change your life forever. I didn't need to have other accidents. I just don't understand how 2 BULGING disks can cause so much pain? did I tell you my doc think I also have tmj?I cannot concentrate or remember things now. I believe it's cause of no sleep/little sleep and pain. what do you think?

    Don't forget telling me what you take for pain....
    thank you....

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    Old 04-11-2010, 05:07 AM   #30
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    Re: Severe Insomnia, nightmares and meds

    No change, my meds are listed in this thread in great detail. I will cut and paste -
    20mg Citalopram HBR
    40 mg of Methadone ([email protected] and [email protected])
    1-4 10/325 Norco per day as needed for breakthru pain
    2-6mg of xanax as needed, 3mg used at night with generic Ambien.
    1 ml of 20% Testosterone Creme applied to arm every AM.
    10mg of Zolpidiem Tartrate 10mg tab

    I will say that not to many Dr's are thrilled with the idea of taking Ambien (generic) with Xanax. Don't know why. Maybe the think its a toxic or dangerous combo. All I can say is that it works for me. I did wake up @ 4:30am this morning but that because I over slept yesterday.
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