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    Old 03-29-2005, 02:52 PM   #1
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    Facet Joint Syndrome - Arthritis of Spine

    Hello....I'm a Newbie here.

    Anyone had Facet Joint Syndrome with or without arthritis ? Have you gotten any help ? Gotten Better ?

    What did you do ?

    Please share if you FEEL LIKE IT ?

    Thanks a bunch.....................I'm in a mess.

    Fibro, Facet Joint Sydrome, Severe Arthritis of the Spine, and all other joints, MCS, Lupus, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.....is that enough ?

     
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    Old 03-30-2005, 09:49 AM   #2
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    Dear Blessings

    I have been diagnosed with chronic myofascial pain syndrome which is pain in your facet joints!!! I have had several injections into my epidural space (epidural blocks) which didn't take any of my pain away. I am having another series of injections right now called "medial branch blocks" which they inject numbing solution in your facets which are branches of nerves in between your vertabrae. I have had 2 sets (they are just diagnostic) and the first one seemed to take at least 60 or 70% of my pain away. The second one wasn't as successful but it still took 40 or 50% of my pain away. I had two different pain doc's. and that could have been the difference because they went into different areas on my neck. The first doctor went in on the side of my neck into C3,4&5 where my bones are now degenerating. The second doctor went in on the back of my neck. I am sure they both went into the same area because they know what they are doing but with the first one I had better pain relief. Now what they will do is go in under "radio frequency" and burn the nerves that they believe are causing the pain signals to my brain. This wears off after about an hour just like going to the dentist but it gives them an idea of where the pain is coming from if it works!! If this works it could last from 6 months to a year and then I will have to have it done again. Yes it is only masking the pain but I will take it as I have been in pain for at least 5 years with this (them not knowing exactly where the pain is coming from)!!! I have had an ACDF on C5,6,7 on Nov. of 2003 as I had bulging discs. arthritis, bone spurs and degeneration and am still in the same pain. I had a car accident (whiplash - not my fault) at 6 weeks post surgery and that has not helped me at all. In fact, I feel worse!!! So this is what they are doing now, so wish me luck and keep me posted as what they are doing to help you.
    Take care of yourself.
    If you have any more questions, feel free to send me a post. My neurosurgeon does suspect Fibromyalgia but my other two doctors think is is myofascial pain.
    Lyn in Michigan

     
    Old 03-30-2005, 09:54 AM   #3
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    Blessings Galore
    Sorry I just read your post again and wanted to let you know that I have Epstein Barr Virus and CMV virus, which are liver viruses probably caused from some type of mono that I probably have had for years and years which also causes Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It is a chronic viral infection. I had it diagnosed by a homeopathic doctor that suspected I had it and sent me to my medical doctor for a liver panel test. It lays dormant and then when your system is low then it can flare up. I have it 3 or 4 times a year. I have no energy, my tongue is coated white, I have a sore throat, swollen limph nodes and sometimes it lasts for "months". There is no cure for that, it comes and goes but it can take a lot out of you.
    Talk to you again soon.
    Lyn in Michigan

     
    Old 03-30-2005, 01:54 PM   #4
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    Thanks Lynn for taking the time to answer me with such great detail. Wow...girl...you are going through it big time aren't you.

    I don't have to wait until Monday to see Doc, they can get me in on Friday. I am looking forward to seeing a Spinal Specialist.

    That Physcial Therapy made me worse than anything I've done for this stuff.

    I have had pain for years in my low back and knew it was getting worse, but in Nov., something just snapped and out it went.

    Facet Joint Syndrome, and severe arthritis of the Spine.

    I'm in mucho pain today with storms coming.

    What kind of meds are they giving you ? Do you feel comfortable sharing ? I only have Ultram, Soma, and Lodine. Been taking Ultram for over 10 years for Fibromyalgia, so I need something better than that with this for sure.

    I can't sit long at all, so I'll have to write again soon.

    Thank you so much for your input......I'll keep you posted.

    I hope you get better and better.

    Blessings, Nancy

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    Old 03-30-2005, 07:09 PM   #5
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    Hi Nancy

    I take Lodeine too (was just switched from Celebrex) and Fosamax once a week. I try to stay away from too many pain meds. I take the occasional Vicodin, which I took today as this week is very bad. I had those injections yesterday and my neck is really sore today. My mother passed away last week and she lived in Canada (I live in Michigan) and it is about 4 hours away. It was of course a very stressful visit and funeral service and also today "was" her birthday. She would have been 84 so of course stress doesn't help.

    I also take Ambien nightly as I have insomnia and I have GERD (Acid Reflux) so I take Prilosec for that. I also have high cholestorol and I take Zetia for that. Now that I think about it, I am falling apart. I am 53 years old. Way too young for all this crap!!! Sorry had to vent!!! Oh yeah and good old "Prozac". I love it when you tell another doctor that you are on that because they just think its all in your mind. I was a lot more stressed out with my pain before I started that and it has helped a lot. I don't feel any different at all taking it but I know I am a lot calmer just trying to cope with all of the pain. I am sure you know what I mean.
    Please let me know how your doctors appt. goes. I will be thinking about you.
    Talk to you soon.
    Lyn in Michigan

     
    Old 03-31-2005, 05:43 AM   #6
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    Hey Lynn, Have you ever tried MSM for GERD ?

    I was in the hospital about to have GERD WRAP surgery and the Lord just would not give me PEACE about it.

    Shortly after that, several years ago now, I started taking MSM for arthritis and Fibro and hey.............................IT HEALED MY GERD. I was at the point of sleeping sitting up on pillows.

    MSM also really helps the joints, the pain and the fatigue of the mess.

    I also was blessed to find OREGANO OIL, I love alternative meds. It gives me tons of energy even on the worst days and helps the pain.

    Is also good for the immune system.

    I woke up this morning with pain SHOOTING down the INDSIDE of my right leg.

    On cane, crying......what a mess. Hubby gave me massage, got the hand held stimulator out and put moist heat on my lower bad, so it is a little better now. Enough to sit a minute. It was ELECTRIC..........shooting.....YIKES.

    It started after I started walking on the treadmill. I think they started my PT toooooooooooooooooooooo early. I had just about worked it out, and now it's bad with a FORCE.

    Thanks so much for all your input Lynn. I hope the soreness goes away FAST. Those shots are MISERABLE to me.

    And soooooooooooooo SORRY about your MOM. That's a terrible thing to have to go through while in this kind of Pain. I pray you will be comforted. It's one of those things where you just have to continue to take care of YOU, no matter what happens.

    I am 56, and have been very ill with Chronic Fatigue and Fibro since I was 32. I am tired, weary and worn. First had female surgery at age 23 . It's been a HARD JOURNEY, but the Lord keeps me in the game somehow.

    Blessings and health to you today.....Nancy <>< til later

     
    Old 04-01-2005, 05:34 AM   #7
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    Nancy

    It is so nice to hear positive things in your post. Thanks for thinking about me while you are in so much pain. This is certainly not the kind of life that we would choose for ourselves is it? I hope you are feeling better as this day goes on. I will be thinking about you.
    Your friend
    Lyn

     
    Old 04-01-2005, 05:37 AM   #8
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    Nancy

    I forgot to ask you. How many millograms daily do you take of the MSM and where do you buy the oregano oil just at a health food store. I am going to the health store later today to get some supplements and I will pick up both of those. I am like you, I will try anything that will help. I take Glucosamine with Chondriton (sp) daily triple strength and there is some MSM in that but probably not enough.

    Thanks for the tips
    Lyn in Michigan

     
    Old 04-01-2005, 06:06 AM   #9
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    Yes, Lynn, you should be able to get both of these at a good health food store, though you'll probably pay an arm and leg for it.

    You can actually get the MSM at Wal-Mart. I use the Spring Valley Brand and it works just great.

    I get most of my products from bio-san on the internet. Good products ...good prices. Hope this isn't something I'm not suppose to post...I can't remember....senior moment here.

    I hope you'll let me know how THEY DO YA. I've never had anything BOOST MY ENERGY like Oregano Oil.......and it does help my Fibro Pain.

    Hope this helps.....on my way to see Doc today. Say a little prayer for me....hey, could be a song.

    til later .....BE OUT OF PAIN

     
    Old 04-02-2005, 07:45 AM   #10
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    Nancy

    Thanks again for the info on the MSM and Oregano Oil. I am off to Walmart this afternoon and also to the health food store to get some oregano oil. I also take OPC3 which is for your immune system and Tahitian Noni Juice, I might as well add this to my regime. I wish I could mash up all my pills and drink them all at once, that way I wouldn't have to swallow them all (ha ha). I am sure you understand.
    I will be thinking about you, and I want to know right away what happened at your doctor's appt.
    Talk to you again soon.
    Take care
    Lyn in Michigan

     
    Old 04-02-2005, 08:27 AM   #11
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    My post from DDD on healthboards Lynn:


    I hated the DOC. Saw the Spinal Doc. Hubby took off to go with me, knowing what JACK RABBITS they can be sometime. He had a HORRIBLE bedside manner even with hubby sitting there with him.

    He kinda settled down a LITTLE after he heard me telling my husband I DIDN'T LIKE HIM on the way out the door when leaving me to get ready for X-rays. Hubby hated him too. I don't put up with the DOC ATTITUDE ANYMORE............been in this tooooooooo long...........suffered tooooooooo much.

    Long story short : DDD of L 2-3 bad.............some in L 4-5. Severe Arthritis on right side and some on left too. Several bone spurs and Facet Joint. Desiccation (dehydration) of Lumbar down through L 4-5. L 5-S1 there is also Arthritis.

    HE SAID: I had run the gammit of treatments to do ....now it was time for surgery. I BEGAN TO WEEP....couldn't SPEAK. Hubby tried to talk to him then.....and ask some more questions. He did x-rays and said the guy who had done MYOFASICIAL Release ON ME HAD DONE A NUMBER ON ME AND CALLED IT VOODOO since I got a lot worse after that. NOW I DO AGREE THERE...because I have gotten a lot worse and it has gone into both legs since then. I DID NOT have that before he worked me over.

    I THINK I have a nerve impingment or entrapment from those manipulations. AND I do have Piriformis Syndrome from the exercises.

    He is sending me on to see a NEURO next week to possibly do a Discogram and see what he allows. (have you had one of those ?)

    We have CANCELLED OUR TRIP. (was leaving for Florida next weekend to get me out of this weather and look for a warmer climate to live perhaps) I am hardly able to get to DOC right now, so I know I would not have a good trip in this condition. It will keep. We can go later on.


    I also bought a WAIST WRAP heating/cold pad thingy. It's awesome...can just wear it around or lie down. And a wedge seat with a hole in it where the tailbone would hit. Got them both at Walgreens. I think they will help.

    I do have a CHERRY PIT Pillow that I have used with great relief for several years now. If you have never had one, you might want to try one. The cherry pits were used eons ago for a heating pad/bed warmer. You can order cherry pits and make them in any shape you want or need them.

    Storms have ceased here for a time, so I do feel some better this morning (sat.) I hope you all have a wonderful pain free weekend.

    IF ANYONE HAS ANY INPUT, EXPERIENCE with these things, please share if you feel like it. Especially the Laminectomy ????? surgery ! I will do a lot of things before SURGERY HAPPENS. What ..I DUNNO...but it will be the LAST COURSE.

    Have you had a DISCOGRAM LYNN ?

    HOW ARE YOU FEELING TODAY ? Pain from shots better ? Did they help...or can you tell yet ?

    Blessings.................Nancy

     
    Old 04-02-2005, 02:00 PM   #12
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    Nancy

    So sorry to hear what you went through today. Yes I have been there done that with Doctors with lousy bedside manners, more than I wish to tell. I don't know why they go into medicine if they are so rude with their patients. They make you feel like you don't know what you are talking about and that you are making up your pain. Why would anyone want to live the way that we are describing our pain to them. That doesn't make a lot of sense but I am sure you know what I mean!!! I am glad your hubby was with you when you got those awful results. Don't give up, I haven't. I have never had a discogram only MRI, Cat Scans and a Myelogram(sp). I have heard that a discogram is even a better more clearer test than a myelogram. I have read about them on some of these sites but don't know much else about it.
    I will be thinking about you and hope that the next specialist you go to will have a better bedside manner.
    The last specialist I went to in Michigan was an ortho. doc and I was warned by several people that he was a great doctor but had a terrible bedside manner. You go in to see him already with your back up because you think he is not going to listen to you. He wasn't too bad but told me that he couldn't help me and I didn't want to hear that either.
    I am not feeling much better and I am now waiting for the pain clinic to give me an appointment for the radio frequency to burn the nerves (facet joints) on C4,5&6. Hopefully that will help as that is probably my last resort because I have tried "everything" else.

    Cheer up and try not to let that doctor ruin the rest of your weekend with your hubby. I will talk to you again soon. Take Care of Yourself.

    bye for now
    Lyn

     
    Old 04-02-2005, 02:03 PM   #13
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    Nancy
    I forgot to comment on the cherry pit pillow. I have tried one and it was too bumpy for me. What I used is something called a "Sawakauba"(sp) pillow which is "buckwheat hulls or husks" which are a lot smaller. I just love it, I have a large one and a travel size one and it goes everywhere with me. Even when I travel. I use a memory foam pillow too which I love. I hope the new wraps continue to make you feel better.
    Talk to you again soon
    Lyn in Michigan

     
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