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    Old 12-23-2007, 05:58 AM   #1
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    "I fixed you, you're fine"

    I saw my spine surgeon this week and I have never been more upset by a doctor's appointment. He looked at my MRI and x-rays, asked me about my symptoms. Then, he said my "reported symptoms" had nothing to do with my neck. "I fixed you, you're fine." He said that my pain was "manufactured" and was something common to "type A people like myself". "If I stop dwelling on it, it will go away."

    I asked him about the 4 months of numbness and burning pain that wakes me up at night and is only reduced by Lyrica. He said that it was not possible to have bilateral arm pain, like I had described. What about the stabbing pain and spasms I experienced that would take me right down? He actually told me to take a meditation class or yoga. "Just relax and it will go away."

    I picked up my x-rays and walked out; telling my husband to stop talking with him, since it was pointless. After I had a good cry, we discussed why he had said those horrible things to me. It has been 2 & 1/2 years since my two level fusion. He reported me as one of his success cases. The idea that my pain would return is not even acceptable to him.

    Since this aweful day, we have come to use his language to describe my symptoms. "Boy, my manufactured pain really kept me up last night!" " I am really happy that I packed that ice wrap in the car or my fake neck spasm would really be a problem."

    I feel like sending the surgeon a nasty letter about how wrong he is, but if this is the way he deals with patients, I imagine he sees plenty of them. I have heard on this board of other people having similar experiences with the surgeon who performed their surgery. I just never expected this from mine.

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    Old 12-23-2007, 06:26 AM   #2
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    Re: "I fixed you, you're fine"

    Holly,

    So sorry to hear that this doc was such a ^*&^%$&*^%#&*^@%%$#@#!^#^!!!!!!!!

    I think that these docs should be taught a class about compassion and proffesionalism.!!!!!! What a Jerk!

    So absolutely inconsiderate.

    Please find another doc. This is your body and please do not take NO for an answer. We are the ones who know our bodies the best.
    We are also our best advocates.
    Because I was not willing to take NO for an answer about a WC case that I had for my arm, I was aactually able to get is fixed to where it is pretty much pain free.
    My problems now come from a car accident and injured neck.

    Are you seeing a Neuro or an ortho?

    If your seeing an ortho it may be time to go see a really go reputable neuro. If he is a neuro and I was in your shoes I would be looking for another Neuro.

    So sorry that he acted that way when your in pain. I really hope that you feel better through the holiday.
    Sending a hug your way and an angel
    Take care and let us know what happens next.
    Chrissy

     
    Old 12-23-2007, 06:49 AM   #3
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    unfortunetly hon you are dealing with an EGO,not a surgeon.any thought of him being less than perfect(espescially since you were named and privledged to be called a "success story")well.he just cannot comprehend it ya know?thats just really sick.you really do need to seek out a second opinion on how things have healed for you.what exactly did this wonder surgeon do for you,besides granting you the privlegde of actually breathing the very same air?

    the thing is,you could have been doing really well and some other issue popped up along the way or any number of other possible issues that could be giving you symptoms,but to stand there and completely tell you its basically all in your head or 'impossible' for you to actually be feeling what you are is just sadistic,really.the biggest problem you could have with trying to seek out that second opinion would be after you have had surgery,alot of other docs wont touch you and take on another surgeons liability.my best advice to you would be if you live anywhere near any type of university teaching facility,even if it is a good drive from you,may be your best bet.this is where i had to go when my two c spine sirgeries didn;t help me at all and actually had made things even worse than pre op.these types of facilitys,since they are teaching hosps will generally take on the folks like us who really have no other options.these are really the hospitals that people sek out when no other sugeons really understand your medical issues or some other surgeon screwed you up.my wonderful NS who placed the hardware after my c spine fusion didn;t take actually somehow managed to imping my c 7 nerve root onto the dang pedicule screw when he placed my plate and screws.the thing was actually looped around the flippin screw.but get this,my NSs NURSE told me everything was just FINE on the MRI i had just had done to try and determine where these hellish symptoms were coming from.honestly,i had taken it upon myself to actually obtain my own copy of that MRI before she finally called me(always get your very own copies of ALL reports on any test,always!)after waiting over a week and a half,so when she told me everything was fine,i simply asked her'well what about that IMPINGED c 7 nerve root it talks about on the bottom of page one?couldn't THAT be the casue of my pain and my freaking neck being locked into one posistion?wow was she ever at a total loss for words.god that just shocked me.she was not even going to actually tell me becasue her 'boss' is the man that caused it.can you believe that crap?i don;t know what the hell she was actually thinking?like i was going to say,okay.i guess its all in my head or something?yikes.that is when my primary doc sent me to the U of MN.that was just sooo sick to do to a patient,just sick.

    i was very well taken care of there by the head of neurosurgery.i was also not told about the true facts about this glob of blood vessels that i had found out(in my spinal cord at the c 7- T 1 level) about when i had my very first MRI done to try and determine which disc i had herniated.this was actually going to paralyze me with the very next bleed it was definitely going to have very soon since i had already had two others that my other NS also never told me about,hello??

    just really try and get to any university teaching hospital,this was the place that really helped me the most.if you cannot possibly get to one,have a long in depth chat with your primary doc about what your options are at this point.your ongoing symptoms could indicate alot of issues going on that the other SOB isn't going to tell you about.do you have ALL copies of all x ray and MRI reports in your possession?if not,get them and read thru them yourself.you would be amazed at just what some specialists don;t tell you about that is actually in them.believe me,its sick when they do it,but they do.i wish you lots of luck with this and hope you can find a GOOD and caring surgeon who will really want to help you.please keep me posted hon,Marcia
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    Old 12-23-2007, 04:19 PM   #4
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    Re: "I fixed you, you're fine"

    Chrissy,

    Thanks for your support. My spine surgeon is an ortho, but he is the head doctor of a spine center at a major university. He has neuros who work under him. He actually has the patent for the titanium plate in my neck. I originally sought him out, since he was the only surgeon in our state who was involved in the artificial cervical disc trials (I didn't qualify for one). He also had some success stories with local athletes, which I read about.

    I'm not sure who to turn to at this point. I am going to talk with my physiatrist, who is the spine doctor I have been seeing for the past four months. He is a great doctor and I am lucky to have found him. I have seen him over the past 7 years. He feels that I do have REAL problems. He could tell that my reflexes showed that I have spinal cord compression. I was a competitive long distance runner, so he knows that I do have a high pain tolerance. I am also motivated to work, since I am self employed.

    Marcia,
    WOW!! Your story is a nightmare! I can't believe that anyone would try to cover up an error that would cause someone so much pain. I hope that you found a good attorney!

    I do have my x-rays and MRI, along with the reports. It is pretty unreal that he says nothing is wrong, since the reports seem to like to use the words "severe" and "compression" over and over again. He made this comment, "I don't know why anyone would order any of these tests, so they are yours."

    I also love it when doctors tell you that you need to just work on deep breathing and relaxation to get rid of the pain. I have read about every technique out there and it may help, but sure doesn't get rid of it.

    You guys are so great and you don't know how much it helps to have your input. Sometimes it feels like you don't have anyone to talk to. I hope that you all have a nice pain-free holiday,
    Holly

     
    Old 12-23-2007, 04:31 PM   #5
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    Re: "I fixed you, you're fine"

    that is crap i guess all of my test and emg results and dr are wrong too sinse i have the same problem in both arms i guess we both have fake neck and arm issue. crissy is wright no is not an opion if you don't take up for you who will? keep moving keep us posted.good luck.kelsey

     
    Old 12-27-2007, 06:01 PM   #6
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    Purpletrail..I think you should write that doctor a letter, even if he has gotten them before. Some of these doctors are so darn arrogant and ignorent. You have the right to let him know how you felt about your visit with him. He could have just said what my family doc told me...he said I puzzle him; he couldn't find out what was wrong with me until I suggested an x-ray of my neck. Then he found out about all the bad discs, and he said...your neck is a mess; no wonder your having headaches! Point being: you know your having pain and there is a reason, even if he can't find it. I have changed family doctors since then!!

    My best to you!
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    Old 12-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #7
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    You may want to give this Dr a wake up call and speak to the hospital ombudsman. Office manners may improve dramatically.

    I had the dept head of neurosurgery do my surgery at one of the best hospitals in the country. He paralyzed my vocal cord during the surgery (anterior approach) and I didnt understand why my voice was so bad and wrote notes and croaked out questions to him about it. He was vile and said I was not responding like any of his patients and acted exasperated that I questioned what happened during surgery. (Husband witnessed this) Before I left I requested an ENT exam which he gave me a referal. Found out 5 weeks after surgery he paralyzed my vocal cord.

    While I was in same hospital for subsequent vocal cord surgery 2 nurses asked me why he had done my surgery and not the other spine dr (yikes!!!)

    I talked to my gp and she said stick with the neuro who did my surgery as no other would want do my follow up. I did, but I complained to the hospital ombudsman and said I was treated poorly in that visit especially after I had to be readmitted to a hospital and had the tragic result.

    After the complaint that man was so sweet....you know risk management had to have had a conversation with him.

     
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