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    Old 06-11-2014, 03:22 PM   #1
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    FINDINGS: There is straightening of the normally observed cervical lordosis and diffuse cervical disc dehydration dhange. The posterior fossa is clear. Discogenic changes in the midcervical spine are most pronounced, characterized by endplate ridging, early disc height loss, and formation of dorsal disc osteophytes.
    C2-C3: There is minimal posterior extension of disc annulus. Joints are intact. There is no central or foraminal narrowing.
    C3-C4: Minimal dorsal disc narrowing. There is very slight ridging of the right facet joint. No stenosis.
    C4-C5: 2 mm dorsal disc osteophyte complex, minimal uncinate ridging. No stenosis.
    C5-C6: 5 mm dorsal disc osteophyte complex effaces the anterior epidural space, contacting and slightly flattening the ventral cord surface. Uncinate spur on the left causes a moderately sever narrowing of the foraminal outlet.
    C6-C7: 5 mm broad disc osteophyte complex in continuity with spurred uncinate joint margins causes a moderate narrowing of the central canal and moderate to moderately severe left and mild to moderate right neural foraminal narrowing.
    C7-T1: Tiny 1 mm left paracentral protrusion does not have mass effecton the cord. the neural foramina are widely patent.
    T1-T2: Minor facet joint ridging but no stenosis.
    T2-T3: More significant facet spur at this level is associated with moderate to moderately severe right and moderate left neural foraminal narrowing.

    IMPRESSION:
    1. Moderate to moderately severe central and foraminal narrowing at C5-C6 and C6-C7 as above.

    2. There is significant foraminal stenosis at T2-T3 from facet spur formation. There is no cord edema and no bone stress response. Noted straightening of the normally observed cervical lordosis may alter spinal biomechanics and can be associated with muscle spasm.

    I have been in pain since 2012, I have tried the epidural injection but no relief. If any can break these findings down for me I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

     
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    Old 06-14-2014, 05:03 PM   #2
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    Re: Cervical MRI - Neck,Shoulder & Arm pain

    I'm not a dr but have learned a bunch about cervical MRI lingo since I've been suffering for years with troubles of my own and I like to understand what's happening.

    If you don't know your cervical spine has 7 vertebra that protect your spinal cord and nerve roots coming off of it in roughly your neck area. They are labeled c1 - c7 from the top to the bottom.

    These vertebrae normally form a slight curve with the concave part facing behind you. Your MRI indicates there is a straightening of this ("straightening of cervical lordosis"). There is no further information as to severity or possible causes (such as instability) so it's hard to determine clinical significance. In my case, I have some slipping and instability of the vertebrae which contributes to neck pain.

    Normally, these vertebrae are made up of flat bony constructs separated by gel-filled disks that cushion your movement while allowing for flexibility of your spine. These flat constructs have bony ridges of the back that form a ring for your spinal cord and protect the back and sides of the cord as well as the nerve roots coming off of it. Each pair of the vertebrae have a disk between them and provide an opening for a nerve root on the left and right of the spinal cord. The circle is your central spinal canal, and the openings between the vertebrae for the nerve roots are neural foramen. Due to age or overuse, you can get degenerative changes in the disks (the gel hardens and the disk shrinks) and in the ridges around the cord and nerve roots (they rub together creating arthritic changes known as disk osteophytes, basically spurs of bony growth). Stenosis occurs when the disk, or these spurs impinge into either the central canal or the foramen.

    Back to your MRI :

    C2/C3, C3/C4, C4/C5 have only minimal changes, the bone spur at c4/c5 is relatively small (2mm), and causes no stenosis so no impinging on your cord or nerve roots

    C5/C6 - a large bone spur complex (5mm) coming from the front of the spinal canal ridges are pushing on your spinal cord and flattening it. This is a significant finding. Compression of your spinal cord can cause more symptoms than pain including weakness in arms/legs, reflex changes and others. From your description, this isn't happening but it's probably something you want to discuss with your spine dr. Also, a bone spur on the left ridge above your nerve root at that level is pressing into the space for the root "moderately severely". Generally, they will use mild, moderate, severe so you can see that there is significant encroachment on the space for that nerve root. This could definitely cause pain, numbness and weakness along your left shoulder and arm.

    c6/c7 - similar pathology to c5/c6. Could cause similar symptoms. If you look up dermatome map you can see where problems at each level would cause pain, numbness etc. A myotome map will show the muscles that may be weak due to problems at a particular nerve level. There is some overlap, however.

    T2/T3 - Bone spur at back of ridges (facet) causing nerve root space narrowing on both sides. Thoracic problems are less common but this could cause pain and associated symptoms in the chest and mid-back.

    It looks like you have some pathology that *could* be causing pain (and other things) at various places in your mid/upper body. If that's been going on for 2 years I would think you'd want to discuss that with your spine dr soon.

    Good Luck.

     
    Old 06-16-2014, 09:29 AM   #3
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    Re: Cervical MRI - Neck,Shoulder & Arm pain

    Thank you so much for your reply to my post. I am in pain everyday..

    I have experienced it all... trouble lifting, weakness in arms/left leg, dropping things out of no where, difficulty walking, loss of balance, coordination problems/clumsiness, trouble opening jars/bags, pins & needles, stiffness, pinching feeling in back of my neck, spasms, burning sensations in my neck, mid back, lower back, pain in my mid chest as if I pulled a muscle, trouble getting up, my husband has caught me a few times. I now take my time getting up and make sure I have my balance before walking. Right now I have constant pain in my left knee and my foot.

    There were days I could not lift my left leg or put pressure on it until the pain eased up, I use to walk with my husband but I could not even make it around the block at that time without stopping in pain my back just would not let me take another step until the pain eased. I don't sweep, mop, bend or sit too long.

    As of right now I am in pain management, I have had 1 of 3 series epidural injections for both my cervical and my lumbar. The lumbar area I still have some pain not as bad the injection just made it more tolerable however I am still afraid to do to much, my 3 year old grandson like to play freeze tag but I just sit and watch him play with his mom but he always wants me to play.



    The injection for my cervical has rendered no relief at all, I am so ready to call the pain management doctor and ask him about my surgery options; I cannot continue to live like this, I am continuing to work and being a switchboard receptionist/ attendance clerk it is very hard because of the limited movement of my neck, reaching, twisting... I got sick of workers comp doctors saying I had a lumbar sprain when I was getting worse so I started using my private insurance to get help. UHG! I just don't know what to do.

     
    Old 06-16-2014, 12:34 PM   #4
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    Re: Cervical MRI - Neck,Shoulder & Arm pain

    If you are suffering from myelopathy symptoms (difficulty walking, incoordination, dropping things etc) as you say, I would not hesitate to get to a spine surgeon for consultation. Those symptoms can become permanent without surgical intervention (and sometimes even with). You may want to go to a couple of different surgeons as they tend to have differing opinions on type of surgery, number of spinal levels etc. This is also the kind of thing where you want the best people you can find. It's important to go with a procedure that makes sense to you and a surgeon you trust.

    Good Luck

     
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