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    Old 12-08-2014, 05:58 AM   #1
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    Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    In the summer of 2013 i was stopped in my car at a red light on a downwards hill when i was hit from behind by another car. At that moment i was in shock and was feeling sort of ok but knew something was wrong! I didn't call an ambulance then i think of the shock but later that evening i went to A&E in Cork City i was seen by a nurse who told me that i would not see a doctor for at least 24 hours and that's if i was lucky all she could do was let me lie on a trolley till the next day in A&E since having a young son who i care for this was not possible so i went home. I had sore neck & stiff quite unpleasant i went to my GP the next day and she put me on painkillers and something to bring down the inflammation this went on for weeks then mts while i was having pains down my arm left side so she sent me to get my heart checked but nothing found! all the while i was telling her about numbness of my fingers in both hands "left side most" my fingers would go like there were DEAD no joke like a dead persons with NO feelings that would clear around a few mins when it got like that! shooting pain darting down my arms and savage headaches and sleeping not much i must say! My GP sent me for a xray nothing found so same old painkillers and anti inflammatory tablets, I went and paid for a MRI and since then i was put on Lyrica 600mg day Zydol 300md a day i feel as if the doctors here have not a clue and will show the results here and if any one can tell me if the numbness in left hand, and right elbow is very weak and painful is this part of what happened in the accident as the doctors here are.....Hard to know?

    There is minor posterior osteophyte formation at the c3-4 level.
    At the c4-5 level there is a broad based left paracentral disc protrusion which touches and slightly distorts the left side of the cord and is narrowing of the left c4-5 exit foramen and is distorting the exiting nerve root.
    At the c5-6 there is a less pronounced broad based left sided disc protrusion that is minimally distorts the adjacent cord and causes narrowing of the left c5-6 exit foramen. posterior osteophyte formation is noted at both these levels.
    No intramedullary abnormality.
    Can anyone help?

     
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    Old 12-09-2014, 12:35 AM   #2
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Hello and welcome to the board. You said you had an MRI that you paid for yourself, did a physician order that or did you get it of your own accord?

    Your MRI indicates definite nerve compression at c4/c5 and narrowing of the nerve space at c5/c6. This could mist definitely cause symptoms like you describe. Since the cause per the report is bulging discs and you didn't mention issues prior its a pretty safe bet these issues are due to the accident.

    Being from the states I have no idea how the NHS works, but you need to be seen by a spine specialist to sort this all out and get the proper treatment. The fact that you are having persistent numbness indicates that there is fairly severe ongoing compression as does weakness if you are truly exhibiting clinical weakness and not "weakness" due T not wanting to do things because of the pain. The longer the nerves are compressed the more like that permanent damage could result so I would work on this as soon as possible.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes.

     
    Old 12-09-2014, 01:36 AM   #3
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Hey Chuck
    Thanks for the reply,I did pay for the MRI my self as i live in the Republic of Ireland and we don't have the NHS here, But the HSE its a joke of a health system. The numbness in my thumb is numb all of the time but it gets stronger from time to time its lightly numb most of the time tho this creeps up my arm for about 6 inches and is only on one side of my arm thumb side left arm. I have a case in the courts for compensation and seen the insurance doctor he did not much asked a few questions then made a report saying there was no nerve damage just soft tissue and would be ok in 24 mts from date of accident, July 2013 it happened oh i am so scared and he said there was normal ware and tare in the MRI report normal for all humans is this true i hope not as i am thinking of settling with the insurance company due to this doctor saying that putting doubt in my head! I have a new baby soon and hope i don't do the wrong thing as i have to see a Neurophysiologist in jan and i have been giving a deadline of Dec 18th to accept the insurance offer or its court next year or so i don't mind that but if i am wrong about nerve damage i loose everything but if i am right i win much more.
    Can the numbness come and go like nearly gone then creeping back??

     
    Old 12-09-2014, 01:40 AM   #4
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Hey Chuck
    Thanks for the reply,I did pay for the MRI my self as i live in the Republic of Ireland and we don't have the NHS here, But the HSE its a joke of a health system. The numbness in my thumb is numb all of the time but it gets stronger from time to time its lightly numb most of the time tho this creeps up my arm for about 6 inches and is only on one side of my arm thumb side left arm. I have a case in the courts for compensation and seen the insurance doctor he did not much asked a few questions then made a report saying there was no nerve damage just soft tissue and would be ok in 24 mts from date of accident, July 2013 it happened oh i am so scared and he said there was normal ware and tare in the MRI report normal for all humans is this true i hope not as i am thinking of settling with the insurance company due to this doctor saying that putting doubt in my head! I have a new baby soon and hope i don't do the wrong thing as i have to see a Neurophysiologist in jan and i have been giving a deadline of Dec 18th to accept the insurance offer or its court next year or so i don't mind that but if i am wrong about nerve damage i loose everything but if i am right i win much more.
    Can the numbness come and go like nearly gone then creeping back??

     
    Old 12-09-2014, 02:40 PM   #5
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Specific disk herniations like you have at c4-c6 can be caused by very long term disk degeneration usually accompanied by some traumatic event. For old people, or people with osteoarthritis (like me), that may be reaching up to change a light bulb (really happened!). For most people younger than about 50 or so, that would require a significant trauma such as a car accident. How old are you?

    You do have some arthritis, but from the report, it looks like that is caused by the disk herniations, not the other way around. If you had an MRI or xray done previous to your accident you could prove this, but barring that I think you'd need a specialist spine surgeon to take a look and see what they thought.

    From your story, I'd bet that all of your problems stem from the accident but I don't know how easy that will be to prove in court especially with the insurance Dr saying no. Obviously, that Dr has a vested interest in saying no, so I would think the best defense would be to get to a spine specialist who can tell you for sure. If I'm right, I think it will help your case enormously, If I'm wrong at least you'll be able to get the proper treatment.

    Persistent numbness is a sign of nerve compression. The fact that it changes in intensity is not particularly surprising. Different positions can cause the space for the nerves to change by as much as 30% which and you'll often see changes in the amount of inflammation etc as well.

     
    Old 12-10-2014, 12:24 AM   #6
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Hello and thank you Chuck
    I am just 43 years old and since the accident i never had any numbness in left hand or any where and my right arm was strong now its weak at the elbow now but i will hope to get the correct treatment as soon as i can.

     
    Old 12-10-2014, 12:30 AM   #7
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    Re: Numbness in right thumb after whiplash

    Hello and thank you Chuck
    I am just 43 years old and since the accident i never had any numbness in left hand or any where and my right arm was strong now its weak at the elbow now but i will hope to get the correct treatment as soon as i can.

     
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