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    Old 01-21-2015, 09:31 AM   #1
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    Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

    Great message board! I am glad I stumbled onto it.

    I was involved in a vehicle accident July 2012. I immediately complained of pain to my neck and upper back. It got worse and headaches began. I went to see my family doctor who referred me to a Neuro specialist in September 2012. Neuro doctor suggested chiropractic care and physical therapy. Chiropractic helps for temporary relief. I have continued going to chiro since Sept 2012 at least three days per week.PT offered no help.

    Neuro Surgeon suggests injections to relieve the headaches. I opted against these.

    I have trouble sleeping every single night and I constantly have to find new positions to sleep in. I am always "digging" at my neck and rubbing it and trying to "crack" it to get some relief from the nuisance symptoms.

    My symptoms are burning and dull pain in my lower right neck and upper right trapezius, dull and burning pain in my right scapula, and headaches. I have no numbness or tingling. I have loss of range of motion turning my head right. I am right handed.


    Two MRI's show a herniated disc at C5/6 with Retrolisthesis. A bony ridge is present at C5/6 as well. Rest of the MRI showed nothing major or even close to an issue.

    The Neuro Surgeon beliefs that my best chance for relief is an Artificial Disc Replacement using a Secure-C device. He has done a number of these operations and he feels that I am a very good candidate due to my age (33), health (very active in numerous sports/fitness) and that my neck only has a single level issue (C5/6 herniation).

    I am scheduled for early April for surgery. I am looking for someone to trade some emails with regarding how their surgery went and things I have to "look forward to".

     
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    Old 01-21-2015, 10:44 AM   #2
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

    Welcome to the board. We have few people on the board now who have gone through artificial disc replacement. It still is not common in the US.

    Before having any major surgery, it is a good idea to get more than one opinion. I usually suggest people see both a neurosurgeon and a fellowship-trained orthopedic spine surgeon for consultations. While going through similar training, the two specialties sometimes approach things differently.

    If you do decide to go ahead with the ADR, take time to do some research. Be sure the doctor has done the procedure many times and that the outcomes have been successful. One disadvantage to ADR is that if something goes wrong, it is a dangerous procedure to try to remove the artificial disc. You want to be fully convinced of your surgeon's experience before going ahead with this.

    Good luck to you. Please keep in touch and let us know how it goes!

    It would also be a good idea to read all about the Secure-C implant on the manufacturer's website. It provides some of the research studies that were done on the implant, lists all the potential risks, complications, etc. it will help you to be better informed before proceeding with your surgery.

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    Old 01-21-2015, 12:47 PM   #3
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    Thank you for the reply. I have been reading and reading about ADR for months! The surgeon I am seeing sat on the FDA clinical study and has done the procedure many times over. H

    However, like you eluded to, there is not much out there regarding ADR since it is so new to the USA.

    Everywhere I read, people rave about the ADR and the ease of recovery.

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    Old 01-21-2015, 05:14 PM   #4
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

    I would also be concerned about the retrolisthesis. That is instability in your spine at C5/C6. I don't understand how ADR would address that and in fact I would guess it may make the instability worse. As a matter of fact, a perusal of the Secure-C sight lists cervical spine instability as a contraindication for surgery with the artificial disc. I would definitely discuss that with your surgeon.

    Another drawback for ADR in general is the lack of long-term studies. ACDF and other surgeries have been studied over the course of many years and long-term results are fairly well known. With ADR, short term results are very good but long term results are hard to come by, even in areas where ADR has been available relatively long-term like Europe. That isn't necessarily a reason to not have an ADR, but it's something to think about.

    It sounds like you have about as experienced of a surgeon as you can get. This is good as another potential drawback of ADR is that surgeons just haven't really done a lot of them. Spine surgery is definitely not something I'd want a surgeon to be "practicing" on me!

    Whatever you end up doing, please let us know how it goes...

     
    Old 01-21-2015, 05:20 PM   #5
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

    Chuck thank you for the reply. That is something I did not think about nor did the surgeon discuss with me. A guy my wife went to school with is actually a PA at the same facility as my surgeon. I am going to contact him and ask him about that issue.

    I plan on doing a review and maybe a blog about my experience.

     
    Old 01-21-2015, 06:47 PM   #6
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    Don't put too much trust in what the PA tells you, other than preliminary information prior to asking the surgeon. PAs can fall into the category of "a little information is a dangerous thing." Many tend to think they know more than in reality they do...but they talk a good game, and with authority, so some patients feel they are getting solid information.

    I slid right over the retrolisthesis when I saw you were asking about ADR. You do not indicate the amount, so perhaps it is minimal...but it would be a contra-indication for ADR otherwise.

    There are reasons why ADR is not commonly done in the US and it is not because we are so far behind Europe. Try to read a variety of "reviews."

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    Old 02-09-2015, 12:26 PM   #7
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

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    There are reasons why ADR is not commonly done in the US and it is not because we are so far behind Europe. Try to read a variety of "reviews."
    Can you provide me with specific examples of what you are referring to? The things I have read show great success with ADR patients, especially comparing to ACDF. Thank you for your time and consideration.

     
    Old 02-15-2015, 04:01 PM   #8
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

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    Great message board! I am glad I stumbled onto it.

    I was involved in a vehicle accident July 2012. I immediately complained of pain to my neck and upper back. It got worse and headaches began. I went to see my family doctor who referred me to a Neuro specialist in September 2012. Neuro doctor suggested chiropractic care and physical therapy. Chiropractic helps for temporary relief. I have continued going to chiro since Sept 2012 at least three days per week.PT offered no help.

    Neuro Surgeon suggests injections to relieve the headaches. I opted against these.

    I have trouble sleeping every single night and I constantly have to find new positions to sleep in. I am always "digging" at my neck and rubbing it and trying to "crack" it to get some relief from the nuisance symptoms.

    My symptoms are burning and dull pain in my lower right neck and upper right trapezius, dull and burning pain in my right scapula, and headaches. I have no numbness or tingling. I have loss of range of motion turning my head right. I am right handed.


    Two MRI's show a herniated disc at C5/6 with Retrolisthesis. A bony ridge is present at C5/6 as well. Rest of the MRI showed nothing major or even close to an issue.

    The Neuro Surgeon beliefs that my best chance for relief is an Artificial Disc Replacement using a Secure-C device. He has done a number of these operations and he feels that I am a very good candidate due to my age (33), health (very active in numerous sports/fitness) and that my neck only has a single level issue (C5/6 herniation).

    I am scheduled for early April for surgery. I am looking for someone to trade some emails with regarding how their surgery went and things I have to "look forward to".
    I had ADR with Mobi-C for C5-6 December 2014. It was a fairly easy recovery, especially after the first week. If/when you have surgery, follow doctor's orders! Before surgery I read ADR reviews vs. fusion until I was exhausted. I trusted my surgeon, who said that ADR was better for me. I think what really helped me decide was that a good friend had had ACDF a few year's back, and she only had relief for 3 months. In fact, she is in more pain now than before surgery. It is an extremely important and personal decision to have any surgery, and you must trust your surgeon implicitly. I will say that in the 10 weeks since my surgery, I have been almost symptom free. The only meds I still take for my neck are muscle relaxers and OTC ibuprofen. I am still in the early stages of post-surgery, but as of today, I'm certainly glad I did it.

     
    Old 03-04-2015, 02:30 PM   #9
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    Re: Thoughts on Secure-C ADR Surgery..

    Update

    Had a second opinion with another local neurosurgeon yesterday. He stated that he did not disagree with my current neuro, however, he encouraged me to try the trigger point injections as it is the only treatment option I have yet to try. He also asked me to have an MRI done on his Tesla 3 machine to see if he can get a more detailed scan.

    Like I said before, my issues are more quality of life (headache, burning pain in trapezius and mid upper back) and some loss of range of motion turning my head right and also to the right and up/down. He spoke openly about those issues and stated that most of the surgeries he does are similar to what I would be having in the sense that they are not pinpoint accurate assessments going into the surgery.

    Just thought I would follow up in case anyone is watching these posts. I have not decided on what to do yet..surgery is scheduled for second week of April. I am inclined to have the surgery.

     
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