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    Old 11-17-2001, 12:26 PM   #16
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    Descriptions of Thyroid Blood Tests:

    Also, the following describes tests you may encounter during your return to health:

    Thyroxine (T4): This shows the total amount of the T4. High levels may be due to hyperthyroidism, however technical artifact occurs when estrogen levels are higher from pregnancy, birth control pills or estrogen replacement therapy. A Free T4 (see below) can avoid this interference.

    T3 Resin Uptake or Thyroid Uptake: This is a test that confuses doctors, nurses, and patients. First, this is not a thyroid test, but a test on the proteins that carry thyroid around in your blood stream. Not only that, a high test number may indicate a low level of the protein! The method of reporting varies from lab to lab. The proper use of the test is to compute the free thyroxine index.

    Free Thyroxine Index (FTI or T7): A mathematical computation allows the lab to estimate the free thyroxine index from the T4 and T3 Uptake tests. The results tell us how much thyroid hormone is free in the blood stream to work on the body. Unlike the T4 alone, it is not affected by estrogen levels.

    Free T4: This test directly measures the free T4 in the blood rather than estimating it like the FTI. It is a more reliable , but a little more expensive test. Some labs now do the Free T4 routinely rather than the Total T4.

    Total T3: This is usually not ordered as a screening test, but rather when thyroid disease is being evaluated. T3 is the more potent and shorter lived version of thyroid hormone. Some people with high thyroid levels secrete more T3 than T4. In these (overactive) hyperthyroid cases the T4 can be normal, the T3 high, and the TSH low. The Total T3 reports the total amount of T3 in the bloodstream, including T3 bound to carrier proteins plus freely circulating T3.

    Free T3: This test measures only the portion of thyroid hormone T3 that is "free", that is, not bound to carrier proteins.

    Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH): This protein hormone is secreted by the pituitary gland and regulates the thyroid gland. A high level suggests your thyroid is underactive, and a low level suggests your thyroid is overactive.

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    Old 12-31-2001, 12:02 PM   #18
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    Quote from Meep regarding the difference between Total and Free T4 and other blood tests:

    T4 (also know as Thyroxine or Total T4) is a measure of how much T4 is in your blood, even if the T4 is bound to proteins in your blood. If you are eating soy products, taking Estrogen, or pregnant, this test won't tell you much since much of your thyroid hormones are likely bound to proteins and aren't immediately useable to your body.

    Free T4 Measures ONLY the free hormone in your blood that is immediately useable by your body and is probably the most useful test in most cases.

    Getting BOTH done can accurately tell you quite a bit about protein binding. Otherwise, the traditional panel that includes Total T4, T3 Uptake (Measures T4 binding proteins and has nothing to do with T3, actually) and FTI can tell you the same thing, though not as accurately (in my opinion).

    I prefer to see a Free T4, Free T3 and TSH when I have my blood work done to get a more complete picture, and have never had the Total T4 test done.
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    Taken from the weightloss board:

    Regarding Soy
    If you have thyroid imbalance or are female you may want to use whey protein rather than soy.

    Researchers have identified that the isoflavones act as potent anti-thyroid agents, and are capable of suppressing thyroid function, and causing or worsening hypothyroidism. Soy is a phytoestrogen, and therefore acts in the body much like a hormone. High consumption of soy products are also proven to cause goiter, (Anti-thyroid isoflavones from soybean: isolation, characterization, and mechanisms of action, Divi RL; Chang HC; Doerge DR, National Center for Toxicological Research, Jefferson, AR 72079, USA, Biochem Pharmacol, 1997 Nov, 54:10, 1087-96)

    The best source of information on soy and its negative impact on health can be found at the Soy Online Service, and in particular, its page on phytoestrogenic effects of soy, and impact on the thyroid.

    (The grain millet, for example, contains high levels of flavonoids, and is commonly known as problematic for thyroid function).

    The March 1999 issue of Natural Health magazine has a feature on soy that quotes Daniel R. Doerge, Ph.D., a researcher at the Food and Drug Aministration's National Center for Toxicological Research. Dr. Doerge has researched soy's anti-thyroid properties, and has said "...I see substantial risks from taking soy supplements or eating huge amounts of soyfoods for their putative disease preventive value. There is definitely potential for interaction with the thyroid."

    One UK study of premenopausal women gave 60 grams of soy protein per day for one month. This was found to disrupt the menstrual cycle, with the effects of the isoflavones continuing for a full three months after stopping the soy in the diet. Isoflavones are also known to modify fertility and change sex hormone status. Isoflavones have been shown to have serious health effects -- including infertility, thyroid disease or liver disease -- on a number of mammals.

    Dr. Fitzpatrick believes that people with hypothyroidism should avoid soy products, because, "any inhibition of TPO will clearly work against anyone trying to correct an hypothyroid state." In addition, he believes that the current promotion of soy as a health food will result in an increase in thyroid disorders.

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    Info about Dhea,
    DHEA is a supplement.

    Here is a little info about it from an anti-aging website.

    DHEA obtained credibility in the medical establishment when the New York Academy of Sciences published a book entitled DHEA and Aging and summarized in their journal, Aging (Dec. 29, 1995, 774:1-350). This highly technical book provided scientific validation for the many life extension effects of DHEA replacement therapy.

    DHEA has been shown to improve neurological function (including memory, mood enhancement, and EEG readings), immune surveillance, and stress disorders. DHEA replacement therapy has become popular as an anti-aging regiment and offers aging patients help in preventing diseases such as osteoporosis, fatigue, depression, atherosclerosis, and cancer.

    DHEA replacement therapy involves the supplementation of the hormone to restore serum levels to those of a 21-year-old. DHEA is a precursor building block that allows our bodies to more easily create hormones that may be in decline because of age, disease, prescription medications, or other factors. Hormones such as testosterone and estrogen as well as serum DHEA levels begin to decline between 25 and 30 years of age and may be reduced by 95% of youthful peak levels by age 85.

    The most remarkable finding about DHEA came from a human study by S. S. C. Yen and associates at the University of California, San Diego, in which 50 mg a day of DHEA over a 6-month period restored youthful serum levels of DHEA in both men and women. Dr. Yen showed that DHEA replacement was associated with an increase in perceived physical and psychological well-being for both men (67%) and women (84%). Increases in lean body mass and muscle strength were reported in men taking 100 mg a day, but this dose appeared to be excessive in women.

    DHEA (50 or 100 mg a day) was also shown to significantly elevate insulin growth factor (IGF). Aging causes a decline in IGF levels that contributes to the loss of lean body mass, as well as to excess fat accumulation, neurological impairment, and age-associated immune dysfunction.

    DHEA has been shown to protect against heart disease and atherosclerosis. A study using coronary artery angiography showed that low DHEA levels predispose people to more significant coronary artery blockage. Another study showed that DHEA inhibits abnormal blood platelet aggregation, a factor in the development of sudden heart attack and stroke. In contrast, some studies on DHEA do not show the cardiovascular disease protection.

    In the journal Drugs and Aging (Oct. 1996), an analysis of previous studies on DHEA showed that

    In both humans and animals, the decline of DHEA production with aging is associated with immune depression, increased risk of several different cancers, loss of sleep, decreased feelings of well-being, and increased mortality.

    DHEA replacement in aged mice significantly improved immune function to a more youthful state.

    DHEA replacement has shown a favorable effect on osteoclasts and lymphoid cells, an effect that may delay osteoporosis. (Editor's note: DHEA has been shown in other studies to promote the activity of bone-forming osteoblasts.)

    Low levels of DHEA inhibit energy metabolism, thus increasing the risk of heart disease and diabetes mellitus.

    Studies in humans show essentially no toxicity at doses that restore DHEA to youthful levels.

    DHEA deficiency may expedite the development of some diseases that are common in the elderly.
    Depression Responds to DHEA Treatment
    Depression is a broad term for a host of unpleasant feelings, including emotional numbness, lack of energy, lack of motivation, feeling like a failure, and feeling undesirable. These feelings frequently show up for the first time in middle-aged people who feel like they're "over the hill." Elderly people, too, frequently get depressed, and they are particularly at risk of suicide. Depression is a growing problem among teenagers as well.

    Doctors have long known that giving estrogen to women and testosterone to men during midlife can avert symptoms of depression, although the effects have never been phenomenal. Reports are stacking up that DHEA works better. DHEA turns into both estrogen and testosterone. And it just so happens that Dhea levels and those hormones go south about the time people start thinking about being "over the hill."

    It may not be very helpful in people that are younger than 45-50 years. It can cause aggression, facial hair growth, acne, etc, since they usually still have enough of the hormone Dhea.

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    Osteoporosis and Thyroid Disease:

    Helpful Canadian website about osteoporosis and potential treatments, including Calcitonin:

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    From University of Missouri's Health Science page:

    Descriptions of various thyroid tests, including types of Antibodies:

    Antithyroid Antibodies:
    Antithyroid antibodies often are associated with and play a role in thyroid diseases. The antibodies of most clinical importance are the Antithyroid Microsomal (measured by the Antithyroid Peroxidase assay and also referred to as anti TPO antibodies), the Antithyroglobulin and the Thyroid Simulating Immunoglobulin. The Antithyroid Microsomal Antibodies are usually elevated in patients with Autoimmune Thyroiditis (Hashimotoís Thyroiditis) and may be used to help predict which patients with subclinical hypothyroidism (Normal Free T4 and elevated TSH) will go on to develop overt hypothyroidism. Antithyroglobulin antibodies may also be elevated in patients with autoimmune thyroiditis, but this is less frequent and to a lesser degree. Thyroid Stimulating Immunoglobulins are associated with Graveís Disease and are the likely cause of the hyperthyroidism seen in this condition. These antibodies attach to the thyrotropin (TSH) receptor in the thyroid gland and activate it. While Antithyroid Microsomal Antibody levels are usually highest in Autoimmune Thyroiditis, and Thyroid Simulating Immunoglobulins are highest in Graveís Disease, each may be present the both diseases, as well as in family members without clinical disease. There are several other less common antibodies associated with autoimmune thyroid disease but they are usually not measured in the clinical setting.

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    Maca - from a commercial website

    Treasure from the Andes Maca, (Lepidium Peruvianum Chacon) is a root vegetable, or tuber from a mat-like perennial that grows in the harshest, most difficult farmlands in the world. Native Peruvians have used Maca as a food and as a medicine since before the Incas. This sturdy relative of the potato and Mexican yam is cultivated high in the mountains of Peru in an environment of amazingly intense sunlight and fierce winds. It grows at elevations higher than any other crop in the world and it manages this existence in regions that are little more than barren rock with sub-freezing temperatures each night.

    Perhaps the challenging native environment where it is grown gives Maca its strength. Maca has been an important crop to the Andean Indians. Today, in spite of the labor intensive methods used to grow it, Maca is still a valuable commodity. The tenacity of this incredible plant makes agriculture possible in a region that otherwise would be relegated to grazing sheep and llamas

    Enhances Fertility - One of the chief attributes of Maca, according to the Peruvian Indians who grow it, is its reported ability to enhance fertility. When the Spanish conquistadors first began to raise sheep in the higher regions the sheep were reproducing poorly. The Indians suggested Maca. The results were so amazing that the Spaniards noted them in colonial records. The records show that the Spanish began to demand Maca as payment from the colonies.

    The reputed fertility enhancement of Maca may be due to its high content of iodine and zinc, amino acids and vitamin C. Although the fertility enhancement of Maca has not been substantiated scientifically it seems a reasonable choice for those wishing to conceive.

    Superfood of the Incas - In the difficult regions where it is cultivated, Maca has the highest nutritional values of any food crop grown there. Ironically, nourishing Maca today is often traded for less nutritious foods like rice, noodles, and sugar. Maca is a delicacy, with a sweet and spicy flavor and a butterscotch-like aroma. Its potato like tubers can be dried and stored for years with no appreciable loss of nutritional value. The roots are usually yellow or purple, or yellow with purple bands and resemble its relative the radish. The fresh roots are baked or roasted in ashes. The dried roots are usually boiled in milk or water to create a savory porridge. Maca boiled in water tastes sweeter than cocoa.

    Maca is a nutritional powerhouse especially rich in iodine. It is a reliable protein source containing significant amounts of amino acids. The protein and calories in Maca are stable even after years of storage. It is also rich in complex carbohydrates and essential minerals such as calcium, magnesium, phosphorus, zinc, and iron. It contains vitamins B-1, B-2, B12, C and E and is a source of glycoside steroids. Weight lifters and body builders are turning to Maca as a natural and safe alternative to anabolic steroids. The rich and diverse nutrient content of Maca explains its many traditional uses and why it is sought after today.

    Balance and Energy - Maca is an "adaptogen" meaning it helps to restore balance or homeostasis to the body. Rather than addressing a specific symptom, adaptogens are used to improve the overall adaptability of the whole system. Other adaptogen herbs are ginseng and astragalus. Maca has been used traditionally to increase energy and to promote improvement in both stamina and endurance in athletes. Unlike caffeine, Maca is a healthy choice for increasing energy because it is not a stimulant. The steady enhancement of both physical and mental energy makes Maca an ideal supplement for students, professionals, writers, athletes and anyone who needs a lift. The fact that Maca contains no stimulants but obtains its benefit from vitamins and minerals makes it especially beneficial for individuals who suffer from chronic fatigue syndrome. Many people who use Maca also report increased mental clarity.

    The Indians who first used Maca believed it to be a significant fertility aid for both animals and humans. This explains why Maca is often described as an aphrodisiac. Aphrodisiac or not, it may be used to address hormonal imbalances in women. Maca offers a natural solution to symptoms of both PMS and menopause. Calcium and magnesium are well known for their beneficial efforts on the female endocrine system. Maca is a good source of both of these important minerals and is a very rich source of iodine which is also important for the endocrine system primarily due to its effect on the thyroid. Further reports indicate that Maca may improve male impotence.

    Maca is naturally a great source of iodine - One thing that is noteworthy is its rich iodine content. This suggests that Maca would be a good herbal therapy for those who have thyroid insufficiency. It has been suggested that some that suffer from symptoms such as dry skin, deep fatigue, insomnia, memory loss, or depression are actually suffering form hypothyroidism and that they improve when given either thyroid hormone alone, or a program that combines thyroid hormone with nutritional support. Along with selenium, magnesium, tyrosine, herbs like Maca that are rich in iodine are sometimes able to restore normal thyroid function. The connection of thyroid insufficiencies to female reproductive issues can not be overlooked. Early medical textbooks and journal articles mention the effectiveness in thyroid supplementation in relieving gynecological disturbances. Normal thyroid function promotes conception, corrects disorders of menstrual flow and assists the body in producing better levels of follicle stimulating hormone. The thyroid supporting capacity of Maca probably explains its ability to enhance fertility and bring relief to women who suffer with symptoms of menopause.

    Maca has no harmful stimulant activity such as that from caffeine or ephedra. Ideal for marathoners, martial arts enthusiasts, weary travelers, and those who maintain intense work schedules.

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    The symptoms of magnesium deficiency aare similar to being thyroid imbaalnce, and being hypothyroid does affect the magnesium level. This seems like something pertinent to think about. TF

    From a commercial website:

    Ninety to Ninety Five percent of the population is deficient in Magnesium, including many
    of those who supplement magnesium regularly. The majority may still think that any magnesium supplement will fix magnesium deficiency. Unfortunately, this isn't the case.

    Read on to understand this in full, and why water-soluble magnesium is the answer.

    The improper use of magnesium among health professionals in general, is deeply
    responsible for many of the failures encountered daily in treating chronic health conditions

    Discovery Number 1: Many common symptoms are normally caused by MAGNESIUM deficiency, NOT calcium deficiency.

    Discovery Number 2: Calcium needs magnesium to assimilate, and will naturally deplete
    magnesium storages. Magnesium, on the other hand, does not depend on calcium and works on its own.
    Magnesium is FAR more important than calcium.

    Discovery Number 3 :Excess calcium in the body is, as a result, one of the major causes of magnesium deficiency and disease.

    Lack of sufficient magnesium in the body will make calcium toxic and disease causing (magnesium has 16 major factors that deplete it). Excess calcium is today a major cause of heart attacks, kidney stones, fatigue, sleep disorders,muscle cramps,
    headaches, gall stones, types of arthritis, PMS,osteoporosis,accelerated aging, depression, high blood pressure and much more.

    Discovery Number 4: Sufficient magnesium will allow calcium to assimilate, as well as dissolve and discharge calcium deposits in the body.

    Discovery Number 5: Most magnesium calcium supplements on the market are incorrectly proportioned and only make things worse.

    Discovery Number 6: Nothing will work faster in bringing relief to the conditions listed
    above as will water-soluble magnesium taken WITHOUT any calcium, which is the astounding results attained today by hundreds of successful doctors.

    The Importance:
    Magnesium is the most important mineral that is needed by your body. In order to function correctly your body needs many nutrients. But if it is deficient in magnesium, there are over 300 biochemical reactions that either won't occur at all or will occur very
    inefficiently. Somewhat like a car functioning with dirty battery terminals.

    Also, magnesium is necessary for the correct assimilation of calcium and potassium
    and the correct and efficient functioning of enzymes. As you can imagine, without magnesium your body is going to be performing at very much less than full capacity. A deficiency in magnesium can go from slight to very severe and your body will be signaling to
    you that it is in trouble: SOS . . .HELP!

    Body Symptoms:
    These signals are in the form of body symptoms. A slight deficiency and you will notice
    slight depression and lack of well-being. The body is telling you, Help, I'm in trouble. Then
    you start getting headaches, pain in the lower back, stiff, tight muscles, particularly in the
    back.The body is telling you, I'm in worse trouble, help me! Now!

    But you ignore these messages. You haven't learneed to read and decipher them. You seek professional advice and . . . Well,you know what they advise.
    Time goes by and now you start getting muscle cramps, then calcium deposits, muscle twitches and tics, high blood pressure. You ignore it and don't do anything about these signals. You start to get nervous; you jump at sudden sounds. You have never been this
    way before. You are told that you are getting old, that you can expect this sort of thing.
    You now have trouble sleeping and continually wake up feeling tired. Your body goes into spasms (involuntary and abnormal muscular contractions) and jerks. Your body is calling out,
    I need help now! Get some magnesium and take it night and morning!

    Don't Ignore Warning Signals:
    You ignore these signals. Next, you find yourself with a chest pain, called angina pectoris.
    You ignore this also, and no one else seems to know what is causing it. You never did learn
    how to take care of your own body and have always left it to the so-called experts. These
    experts don't know either.The next thing that happens is suddenly your heart starts racing.
    It goes out of rhythm. You donít know what to do and neither does anyone else. Then one day you have been out working hard physically, or under stress, and all of a sudden you have a heart attack. Your body is telling you, I am in real trouble; I am almost at the end of the line. I need magnesium urgently and fast. NOW!

    So learn from me: The body is crying out for magnesium. It is deficient in magnesium.
    It cannot function unless it has sufficient of this mineral.

    How important is magnesium?
    It is so important that your body wonít function well with even a slight deficiency, and with a severe deficiency you could end up with a heart attack.

    Key Nutrient
    Magnesium is an essential nutrient. It is necessary for every major biochemical process,
    such as digestion, protein synthesis, cellular energy production and glucose metabolism.
    Magnesium is also needed for bone strength, muscle strength and heartbeat, as well as the
    functioning of the nervous system. Over three hundred biochemical and bioelectric reactions
    depend on magnesium to occur. Without these taking place efficiently, the body is in trouble
    and so are you. If you do not have sufficient magnesium, the body will not work properly and
    you will end up with the symptoms described earlier. By taking a water soluble magnesium ,
    these symptoms will gradually and mysteriously disappear. This will occur even if you only
    take a small amount of it.

    Deficiency is Common
    Contrary to common belief, magnesium deficiency is very common even among those who
    supplement it regularly. The reason for this is that the stress of modern lifestyle depletes
    magnesium reserves far more rapidly than was previously realized.

    Activates Other Minerals
    All other major minerals are dependent upon magnesium being present in order to function.
    The major minerals are magnesium, calcium, potassium and sodium. Of these, magnesium
    is by far the most important.

    Magnesium versus Calcium
    Calcium, a major mineral, needs magnesium in order to assimilate into the body. Calcium,
    however, should never be taken on its own. Otherwise, it will pull magnesium out of body
    parts in order to assimilate. This creates a greater magnesium deficiency and the person
    will feel worse. This occurs with people who drink milk. Milk is about 8 calcium to 1
    magnesium and it will create a magnesium deficiency.

    Magnesium regulates the entrance and utilization of calcium in the cells. Without magnesium,
    calcium remains in the body unused. This will result in calcium deposits in the joints
    (often called arthritis), gallstones, kidney stones, and in extreme cases calcification of the
    brain and other body organs and parts. This, in turn, results in loss of memory and loss of
    ability to reason and eventually the termination of life. All of these conditions have frequently
    been known to disappear after taking extra magnesium.

    Again, magnesium and calcium must be in the correct proportions, otherwise the calcium
    becomes a pollutant in the body causing heart disease, arthritis, hardening of the arteries,
    senility, osteoporosis, and calcification of organs and tissues as described earlier, which
    could eventually completely degenerate these organs and tissues. From this you can deduce
    that it is contra survival to take calcium without magnesium. The rule is "Never take calcium
    without magnesium. Calcium depends on magnesium for it to assimilate. Magnesium, on the
    other hand, doesn't require calcium in order to function. In fact, in many cases, magnesium
    taken on its own without any calcium will help you feel younger, more energetic, stronger,
    and give you a multitude of other benefits, all as a result of the magnesium being present to
    do its job.

    What Depletes It?
    Letís take a look at what depletes magnesium: Modern stresses,whether chemical,
    environmental or mental, frequently deplete magnesium reserves (which are often depleted
    faster than calcium reserves). This can cause a magnesium deficiency and the resultant
    symptoms of internal stress, even when the person does take magnesium supplements if
    he takes more calcium than magnesium (which is very common). Extra magnesium can
    often mean the difference between a stressed body and a completely relaxed one.
    Magnesium depletion is a highly important issue, which will be crucial to understand.

    The following are Magnesium Depletors. Learn them well and apply accordingly. The more
    dominant they are in your life, the more magnesium your body will need. These items
    dramatically speed up the depletion of your body's magnesium storage, and make it
    necessary for much more magnesium to be consumed: Mental stress, Physical stress,
    Coffee Sugar, High sodium diet, Alcohol, Cola-type sodas, Tobacco, High perspiration,
    Medical drugs of all types, Low thyroid, Diabetes, Chronic pain, Diuretics, A high
    carbohydrate diet, A high calcium diet.
    Calcium? Yes. Can too much calcium be a problem? More than you ever thought possible.
    Differently put, excess calcium can become a real problem. Excess magnesium,
    on the other hand, is impossible. Excess calcium combined with low magnesium will
    create osteoporosis and fragile bones.

    The Proof?
    Here is an amazing example: What country has the highest rate of milk consumption?
    Thatís right, it is America. Now another question: What country has the highest
    consumption rate of calcium supplements? That's right, the answer is again America.
    So obviously, you would say, America must have the lowest occurrence of osteoporosis
    (calcium loss) of all countries, right? Believe it or not, the truth is the exact opposite! We
    have the highest rate! Why? Taking more calcium will not fix a calcium deficiency,
    which is quite evident from the statistics. Yet more magnesium will handle the calcium
    deficiency as well as the magnesium deficiency itself.

    *Insomnia or Restless Sleep * Irregular Heartbeat *Aggressive Behavior * Sleep- Wake up
    Tired *Attention Deficit Disorder * Stress * Chronic Fatigue* Back Pain * Stroke*Stiff and
    Aching Muscles * Jump at Sudden Sounds * High-strung, Jittery *Bones continue to go out
    of Alignment * Anxiety * Confusion * Migraine Headaches * Muscle Weakness * Cluster
    Headaches * Muscle Tics or Twitches* Weakness * Muscle Cramps *Hypoglycemia
    * Muscle Spasms or Quivers * Diabetes * Hiccups * Nervousness *Pregnancy-related
    Symptoms Hyperactivity* High Blood Pressure*Seizures*Osteoporosis *Angina Pectoris
    * PMS *(Sharp Chest Pains and a feeling of being Suffocated)*Constipation * Heart Condition
    * Kidney Stones * Exhausted from Physical Work or Exercise* Accelerated Aging
    * Depression * Fading Memory, Senility * Heart Attack History *Leg Cramps

    Angina (chest pains) is caused by a spasm in coronary arteries (the arteries that
    supply blood to the heart). This spasm is caused by magnesium deficiency and
    water-soluble magnesium is highly beneficial for this condition.

    Asthma is a condition where the bronchial passages go into spasm and interfere with
    normal breathing. Magnesium comes to the rescue by relaxing the bronchial muscles.
    Studies have shown that intravenous magnesium administered to asthmatics resulted
    in rapid improvement in shortness of breath and wheezing. Often it stopped an attack
    cold. Magnesium seems to make a major difference for asthmatics.

    Backaches, Back Pain
    Magnesium can relieve back pain in several different ways.
    (1) Magnesium helps kidney function. Kidney stress is one of the causes of back pain.
    (2) Magnesium helps relax the muscles. Muscle tension is another reason for back
    problems. Magnesium also helps the assimilation of calcium, which could allow bones
    to heal themselves.

    Bone Alignment, Bones going out of Alignment
    When magnesium is too low, this will cause the nervous system to be out of balance.
    This, in turn, will keep muscles tight and prevent them from staying in a relaxed condition.
    Magnesium restores balance to the nerves as well as the muscles, and thus makes it
    possible for chiropractic adjustments to last longer and be more effective.

    Magnesium is very helpful in providing relief from constipation. High amounts of magnesium
    have always been found to bring relief. In fact, the only time when water-soluble magnesium
    didn't relieve this condition was when not enough of it was taken. Constipation, of course,
    beyond its emergency address, should eventually be traced back to its underlying causes
    and handled accordingly. Yet magnesium is the one quick solution that never fails to work
    when immediate relief is needed.

    Depression & Adrenal Function
    Cortisol is one of the main hormones produced by the adrenal glands. Cortisol plays a key
    role in the regulation of blood sugar levels. Stressful conditions, however, cause the adrenals
    to overproduce cortisol, and when the adrenals are pushed into a relentless production of
    cortisol, they end up in a stressed condition. Once the adrenals become overworked and
    stressed, the bodyís ability to retain magnesium drops down, as reflected in a greater loss
    of magnesium through urinary excretion. For this reason, people with exhausted adrenals
    will often require more magnesium to maintain inner balance. Magnesium is also needed by
    the adrenals as a basic building block for the manufacturing of hormones.
    Since stressed adrenals are often a forerunner of depression and mood disorders, anything
    which supports adrenal function will help these conditions. Because magnesium supports
    adrenal function, it can and was indeed found to have an antidepressant effect. While
    further steps may be required to fully alleviate depressive states, magnesium s role in balancing
    the body is vital and it has been proven to greatly enhance the effect of other nutrients
    consumed and/or other steps undertaken.
    Without sufficient magnesium one cannot keep the adrenals in balance, and a loss of this
    balance can result in diabetes, hyper-excitability, nervousness, mental confusion and
    difficulty coping with simple day-to-day problems. Depressed and suicidal people often
    display inadequate levels of magnesium.

    Insulin is the hormone which helps with the regulation of glucose (sugar) metabolism.
    Magnesium has been found to improve insulin s response to dietary sugar, and improve
    the action of insulin in regulating blood sugar levels. Magnesium deficiency seems to be
    extremely common amongst diabetics, which makes it very important for them to supplement.
    One of the reasons for this condition is the great amounts of magnesium lost through urine by
    diabetics. Studies have shown that people with heightened magnesium levels were better
    able to metabolize glucose. While magnesium will not by itself entirely normalize a major
    disorder such as diabetes, it is still a vital nutrient for the diabetic. Lack of magnesium
    can make diabetes worse, and produce a host of other unnecessary symptoms.

    When we say energy, we usually mean the total energy produced by the body. Each cell
    in the body is engaged in its own energy production process, and the total energy produced
    by all our cells adds up to our total body energy. Magnesium plays a key role in the energy
    process within each individual cell. When not enough magnesium is available, energy
    production is inhibited, and the eventual outcome is fatigue and weakness.
    Magnesium is vital for the maintenance of adequate energy levels. Magnesium also
    helps in the storage of energy used by the cells. Without it you will again feel tired. This is
    one of the causes of fatigue and chronic fatigue, and these will often clear up on taking the
    magnesium drink. Magnesium (in the right amount and form) can provide vital help for
    cases of chronic fatigue, as its presence in the body will make it possible for some basic
    processes to properly occur, which will, in turn, enable the body to remedy other nutritional
    imbalances. One of these key processes is the regulation of potassium. When magnesium
    is lacking, potassium will be rapidly lost from the body, causing fatigue, heat exhaustion
    and weakness.Without adequate magnesium available, the cells will be unable to breathe
    properly and maintain the cycle of life, and, as a result, they will start weakening and
    decaying, embarking upon a cycle of cellular death.
    Moreover, considering the role played by the adrenal glands in the maintenance of proper
    energy levels, along with the importance of magnesium in supporting the adrenal glands,
    we can see at once that magnesium affects and regulates energy levels in more ways than
    one. Always ensure sufficient magnesium intake occurs when attempting to repair energy

    Fibromyalgia is common mostly amongst women. It is characterized by fatigue and
    muscle pain throughout the body. It is sometimes accompanied by sleep disturbances,
    headaches and other symptoms. Magnesium is the most important mineral needed by
    people with fibromyalgia, and coupled with malic acid, it greatly helps in relieving this
    condition. While most malic acid products come with magnesium, a water soluble
    magnesium will often also be necessary for superior and more stable results.

    Heart Attacks
    Magnesium deficiency appears to be causing 215,000 fatal heart attacks in the U.S.
    each year, and as many as 20,000,000 fatal heart attacks worldwide. Indeed, the cost
    of magnesium ignorance is frequently fatal, and yet such ravaging results can be prevented.
    The heart is a muscle. It follows the same rules as any other muscle, except the results are
    more dramatic and life extinguishing. Calcium and magnesium control the heartbeat. Calcium
    tenses the heart muscle; magnesium relaxes the heart muscle. The heart s pumping motion
    is the alternating of this tensing and relaxing action. With a correct balance of calcium and
    magnesium, the heart beats in a consistent manner. With a deficiency of magnesium the
    heartbeat becomes inconsistent. It beats too fast or too slow or it races. This is a sign of
    magnesium deficiency. Handle the deficiency and the heartbeat returns to normal. Nothing
    else needs to be done. Just take magnesium. You don t have to know any more than that.
    Racing heart, take magnesium. Heartbeat not normal, take magnesium.

    Now we get to the serious part. A muscle can go into a spasm. It can go stiff and cramp.
    The heart muscle can do the same. When it does, the spasm or cramp will cause the heart
    to stop beating for a second, called a mild heart attack, or to tense up and lock causing the
    heart to stop beating completely, resulting in death. Then we say the person died of natural
    causes; he had a heart attack. No, he died of unnatural causes*ignorance and stupidity. He
    died of a magnesium deficiency.

    Any sign of heart trouble? Take magnesium.
    There is always a long record of magnesium deficiency symptoms occurring before a heart
    attack. To stress it again, without sufficient magnesium you will die, because your heart will
    stop beating, and it will be called a heart attack. In America, heart attack is the number one
    killer (cause of death), before strokes and even cancer. When a person dies from a heart
    attack, never do they say, He died from a magnesium deficiency. The early signs of such
    terminal extinction are racingheartbeats, or any unusual change in heartbeats, angina pains
    and collapsing from exhaustion after heavy physical work or exercise, such as running a race
    or playing football or basketball. Due to lack of magnesium, the heart muscle develops a
    spasm or cramp and stops beating. This is because there is insufficient magnesium to
    relax the heart for the next contraction.

    Hiccups are the result of muscle spasms of the diaphragm and will disappear on taking

    High Blood Pressure
    High blood pressure (hypertension) this is the leading cause of stroke and a major cause
    of heart attack. Consistently high blood pressure pushes the heart to work way past its
    capacity. Besides the seriously elevated risk for heart attack and stroke, high blood
    pressure can also damage the brain, eyes and kidneys. Many people with this condition
    are not aware that they have it. Magnesium is needed by anyone with high blood pressure.
    Half of all people with magnesium deficiency suffer from high blood pressure. This explains
    why magnesium has proved to be so vital for this condition. Some people will need extra
    nutritional support, but magnesium certainly remains a key nutrient for people with high
    blood pressure and it will help to avoid further complications.

    Hyperactivity and ADD
    This condition is mostly caused by sugars and food additives. These stress the nervous
    system and cause it to be hyper-excitable. This also affects attention span. Hyperactivity
    and Attention Deficit Disorder can be dramatically corrected by eliminating refined sugar
    products (sodas, candy, etc) and food additives. Since sugars and food additives can
    potentially deplete magnesium from the body, magnesium deficiency was found to help a
    percentage of those suffering from these conditions. Magnesium can relax the nervous
    system, and reduce the hyper-excitability condition. Studies show that kids with magnesium
    deficiency benefited greatly with ADD and hyperactivity.

    This is one of the most common conditions today. Magnesium deficiency can cause insomnia
    (inability to sleep), or make you wake up with muscle spasms or cramps or feeling tense and
    uncomfortable. Magnesium can go a long way in relieving this restlessness, and make many
    of the common sleep problems simply disappear. There are countless records on file attesting
    to the effectiveness of the Natural Calm in relieving and resolving sleep disorders.

    Irregular Heartbeat
    Magnesium deficiency is the main cause of irregular heartbeat. If the heart beats more than
    100 beats per minute (too fast) or less than 60 beats per minute (too slow), this is considered
    an irregular heartbeat. Water-soluble magnesium has been found to act quickly in normalizing
    and stopping irregular heartbeat. A daily intake of magnesium will act as a preventative.

    Kidney Stones
    Most common types of kidney stones are made of calcium and respond well to magnesium
    especially the water-soluble form. This form of magnesium will help to dissolve the deposits,
    and combined with B6 will help prevent the formation of new stones in the body.

    Leg Cramps
    Leg cramps are often caused by magnesium deficiency. Supplying the magnesium will help.

    Migraine headaches afflict millions of Americans. Women especially are prone to this condition.
    These headaches most often occur during the menstrual period, but can also happen at other
    times. Here again, magnesium comes to the rescue. Magnesium supplementation is key, as
    low magnesium levels do cause migraines or make them worse. Taking magnesium can bring
    extended relief in many cases, although it seems that it may work even better for prevention.
    Consequently, maintaining proper magnesium levels on a regular basis is essential in preventing
    or reducing the frequency and severity of migraine headaches. This, of course, is not limited only
    to menstrual migraines.

    Migraine and Cluster Headaches
    Magnesium supplementation was found to reduce the frequency, intensity and length of migraines
    or headaches in many studies. In some of them, the relief was complete. One reason for its effect is
    by controlling excess calcium levels, which are a source of chronic headaches for some individuals.

    Muscle Function & Disorders
    Muscles also need both calcium and magnesium to function. Calcium tenses the muscles;
    magnesium relaxes the muscles. Close your fist and clench it tight: that is calcium which permits
    the tensing of the muscle. Now open and relax your fist: that is magnesium which permits the
    relaxing of the muscle. All muscle action is that of tensing and relaxing and of gradients in
    between each extreme.
    Therefore, tense, tight muscles tell you what? That s right, there is a magnesium deficiency.
    There is not enough magnesium in the system to cause the tense muscles to relax. Supply the
    needed magnesium and the muscle will function as it should. It will stay relaxed until it needs
    to function again.
    Muscle spasms, muscle cramps, muscle jerks, muscle tics, eye tics and hiccups are all
    caused by a magnesium deficiency. Take sufficient water-soluble magnesium and they will
    disappear. It is not calcium that handles these difficulties, it is magnesium. Calcium is causing
    the difficulties. Have you ever known anyone with tense back muscles? Probably their back was
    continually aching and in pain, because the tense muscles will pull the bones out of place. Handle
    the magnesium deficiency and the muscles will relax, the bones will go back into place and the pain
    will disappear.

    Nervousness & Nervous System Disorders
    Magnesium is essential for the proper functioning of the nervous system. Without sufficient
    magnesium the nerve cells cannot give or receive messages and become excitable and highly
    reactive. This causes the person to become extremely sensitive and nervous. Lights can appear
    to be too bright. Noises will seem excessively loud and the person will jump at sudden sounds like
    a door slamming and will generally be on edge. Even slight noises can seem loud.
    Nervousness is often caused only by a deficiency of magnesium. Handle the deficiency and in
    many cases the nervousness will disappear.

    Osteoporosis is a condition marked by severely reduced density of the bones. It affects mostly
    women. The bones become fragile and break down more easily than they develop. Osteoporosis
    is not a problem of getting insufficient calcium but of losing the calcium you have. Unquestionably,
    magnesium is far more important than calcium in preventing osteoporosis. It is magnesium which
    prevents calcium from being excreted, and helps its utilization by the body. Calcium would be entirely
    useless without sufficient magnesium. The colossal consumption of dietary and supplemental calcium
    has not reduced the rising incidence of osteoporosis in this country, regardless of the huge calcium
    campaign. A recent survey revealed that milk drinkers were found to have more bone fragility and not
    as otherwise promoted. Maintaining normal hormonal levels (such as with a natural progesterone cream)
    and the avoidance of sugars, soft drinks, caffeine and smoking are also vital in preventing osteoporosis.
    Magnesium helps prevent bone loss, and preserve the existing calcium. It is essential for high bone
    density and the prevention of osteoporosis.

    Physical Exhaustion
    The person who collapses from physical exhaustion after a day of hard, continuous physical work
    has a magnesium deficiency. Of course, he or she may have other deficiencies as well. What about
    the person who collapses at the end of a race*he crosses the finish line and falls down? Well, what
    caused that to occur? Right, it was a magnesium deficiency. Do you see how simple it is? Does it
    work? Try it for yourself. Why not handle the magnesium deficiency before it happens and keep the
    heart beating? It s not complicated. It s simple.

    PMS (premenstrual syndrome) is largely a magnesium deficiency. Instant relief can be obtained by
    taking magnesium. Too much calcium and not enough magnesium cause PMS. These result in
    premature aging brought about by the calcification of the female body parts. Taking magnesium in
    a water-soluble form will totally reverse this condition. The magnesium will gradually dissolve the
    solidified calcium and help to assimilate it or to expel it from the body if the calcium is not needed.
    Vitamin B6 (the active form) is also recommended for PMS.

    Pregnancy-related Symptoms
    Contractions occurring too early in pregnancy, weeks or months before the due date, are caused
    by a magnesium deficiency and the presence of too much calcium. Taking the water-soluble
    magnesium will relax the muscles and stop the contractions, and the pregnancy will continue
    as normal until the due date. If the mother is deficient in magnesium, the baby will be deficient
    as well. This can be dangerous for the baby, and even fatal. A magnesium deficiency in infants
    an cause crib deaths or SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). The heart stops beating. Why?
    The answer is too much calcium, not enough magnesium. So make sure both mother and baby
    are on water-soluble magnesium.

    Premature Aging
    By reversing calcification of body organs, magnesium is capable of slowing down aging, thereby
    making you feel younger. Magnesium will not only correct PMS and prevent accelerated aging,
    it could also energize you and make you lose weight; both are natural signs of younger age.
    When magnesium is lacking, the entire body can become calcified. This is aging. It all starts
    with the individual cell. First the cell ages; this leads to organ aging, and this, in turn, leads to
    aging of the entire body.
    The calcification process starts slowly and innocently, and gradually builds up over the decades.
    Practically no soft tissue in your body is immune to calcification, including your various glands.
    This process can begin in childhood, and sadly, in many cases, children start to display too
    high cellular calcium levels. For a lot of people, a high calcium diet combined with low
    magnesium amounts to "cellular suicide."
    So, make sure you take enough magnesium to maintain proper levels in the body and avoid
    any potential imbalance or danger from calcium dominance.

    Senility calcification of the brain tissues will cause senility. Alzheimer s disease is also a
    symptom of brain calcification. Water-soluble magnesium will be an essential supplements
    in both cases.

    Natural Calm is a true breakthrough in the field of sleep and relaxation. It greatly exceeds the
    common traditional supplements such as melatonin, calcium etc. It produces, in fact, results,
    which are more consistent than any sleep supplement we have seen around.

    The most surprising fact of all was that most of those consuming magnesium supplements were
    STILL found magnesium deficient, which fully explained their ever-persisting sleep difficulties.
    The use of usual sleep supplements did NOT seem to handle the deficiency in magnesium.
    To add to the mystery, one can use magnesium supplements for years and STILL be deficient
    in magnesium, and STILL experience sleep difficulties (amongst many other symptoms),
    wondering why nothing else seems to work!
    Too much dietary calcium will create a magnesium deficiency which is one of the reasons.
    Environmental stresses which deplete magnesium reserves & increase the need for dietary
    magnesium are another reason.

    Magnesium and stress are closely linked. Stress depletes magnesium; magnesium counteracts
    stress.When magnesium levels are low, the nervous system gets out of balance and the muscles
    grow tight.This can also lead to elevated mental stress. At the same time, any stress, whether
    mental or physical, will deplete magnesium. Magnesium gained its name as nature's anti-stress
    mineral due to its helpfulness in combating internal stress and in the restoration of inner balance.
    As expected, stress conditions involve extra nutrients and support, and require as well a
    good-quality protein, the avoidance of sugar, and of course focusing on diversionary activities,
    and should include addressing any mental factors that may be underlying the stress.
    The Explanation? Too much dietary calcium will create a magnesium deficiency.

    The Solution
    Take: Water Soluble Magnesium Citrate (205 mg) works even in cases of highly impaired digestion.

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    For those facing thyroid surgery, if you drink green tea or take a supplement containing vitamin E, you'll want to discontinue both a week before your surgery. They both have properties that cause them to act as blood thinners. I found this out recently when I went for my pre-op work-up for my upcoming surgery.

    Actually, if you are facing surgery and take any supplements, it is wise to check with your doctor in advance to see what his/her recommendations are in regards to those supplements.


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    What to Expect from Thyroid Surgery

    They will do some pre-op tests a couple days before the surgery (complete blood panel, EKG, pregnancy test). The day of the surgery, they may allow you to walk into the operating room (I did). You will only lose about a teaspoon of blood during the procedure, so there's no need to donate your own blood pre-surgery because there's no risk of needing an emergency transfusion.

    Tell your surgeon about all supplements you are taking and ask if they feel you should continue or stop at a particular point in the next few days. If you have a nutritionist/herbalist, speak with them as well.

    The procedure itself typically takes two-four hours. It would take less time, but they pause before closing while your nodule(s) and/or thyroid are examined under a microscope for abnormal cells. This pathology is called a frozen section biopsy. They do this frozen section for each lobe separately (they did with me), so it could extend the surgery time. After the surgery is complete, they will do a full dissection of your thyroid gland to be sure there are no abnormal cells. The pathology report for this will be complete in about two weeks after the surgery.

    Be aware that there is a slight chance that the frozen section biopsy will appear clean, yet abnormal cells may still be found after the total dissection is complete in a couple of weeks. This follow-up diagnosis of malignancy can happen because the frozen section is a quick look at one specific area of the removed tissue. If there are very few abnormal cells or if they're in an isolated area, they may not be discovered until the full dissection is complete. In these rare instances, a second surgery may be required (if you had only a partial thyroidectomy) to remove the remaining tissue.

    Following surgery, you'll be in recovery (semi-conscious) for a couple of hours, and then you're typically in the hospital 1-2 days. You may have some nausea as the anesthesia wears off. The healing time at home can be as long as one-two weeks before returning to normal activity.

    Everyone reacts to theses things differently, but I was pretty fortunate. I only let them keep me overnight in the hospital (and would have left the same day if I could). And I returned to work in 3 days, although this is NOT recommended by the docs. I was just bored at home.

    You will notice that the skin of your neck is numb. The nerves that were cut during the incision will regenerate and the sensation will return to normal in a few weeks. There is some neck pain (like a dull ache) and swelling, but I only took regular tylenol for it. Your doctor may give you something stronger to ease your comfort. You can also put ice on your neck to keep the swelling down. It may feel like you have a sore throat, so drink lots of liquids and speak as little as possible the first couple days. The stitches are removed in a week (once they start itching), and your comfort level increases substantially after they're gone.

    A "soft food" diet may be recommended, and is only necessary while you have feelings of a sore throat. It is up to you when you feel up to having foods with more texture.

    Be prepared for some discomfort when driving, especially during that quick turn of the head before changing lanes. You may want to make other transportation arrangements for a couple of weeks after the stitches are removed.

    I kept gauze (loosely attached on the sides with some surgical tape) or a 1/2 bandage loosely over my scar and covered lightly with a scarf to hold it in place so I minimized things from randomly brushing against the wound. Some folks are extra sensitive and don't want anything touching the wound, but I found it helpful to keep the pain minimal and to keep people from asking about it. And I also covered it with gauze at night so it wouldn't hurt if I turned in my sleep.

    Also, after the stitches were removed, I was packing the wound with Vitamin E oil and some herbs that help reduce scars, so I needed the gauze to keep my clothes clean. The docs need it clean for observation, so you may want to limit yourself to only Vitamin E until your re-checks are complete. Then, if you want, but some Golden Seal capsules and Slippery Elm capsules. Open one of each and mix the powders together. You can apply this "people paste" to any open wound or burn that has been lightly moistened. (I use Vitamin E or Arnica cream/ointment for moistening.) The paste helps heal from the inside out, so you'll notice the skin healing beneath the wound before the surface heals. And scars are much reduced.

    The incision/scar will get a bit puffy over the next six-eight weeks, and you may bruise a little. The puffiness will reduce in size as you heal. Once the incision is completely closed, you may break up the scar tissue formation by kneading and twiddling the scar (rub between your fingers in every direction you can manage for as long as you can take it). This is a bit painful, but I did it for about 10 months or so and my scar did not keloid and is now completely flat.

    Homeopathy was extremely helpful to me, and it minimized my reaction to the anesthesia as well as my bruising and discomfort. I healed extremely fast, and now have a thin "smile" scar at the base of my neck that looks like a normal crease. If you are willing to use homepathic remedies, I've posted instructions on Page 1 of this Information Archive:

    Look for my post of 9/10/01. You should start the Arnica Montana 1-2 days before your surgery for best results. It will definitely help with the bruising and swelling. Arnica cream or ointment during the healing process will also help with the bruising.

    If they remove the full gland, you will have to be on thyroid meds for the rest of your life. If they remove your parathyroid(s), you may also have to start taking Calcium every day. Sometimes (even when they're not removed) the parathyroids are traumatized from the surgery, and your blood calcium levels drop a bit. So, they may have you taking Calcium supplements even if they leave the parathyroids intact.

    Your doctor may or may not recommend RAI (radioactive iodine) ablation a few months after surgery as a follow-up treatment. This painless procedure may not be necessary if you do not have abnormal cells. The reason for it is to kill off any remaining thyroid tissue so that it's easier to treat you with thyroid meds. (That way the meds aren't conflicting with active tissue in your body, and you can be regulated easier.)

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    Someone in my local support group asked about adrenal testing since that is something that often goes hand in hand with thyroid problems and thyroid treatment isn't safe if you have weak adrenal response. I thought I would pass the information along here, too:

    I Can't say I know everything, and I have not been tested for adrenals, myself. My doctor is going by symptoms. Here is what I know. The blood tests that could be run are:

    Morning Cortisol. This measures your cortisol level at the point in the day when it SHOULD be highest. Even though you may get a normal reading on this, doesn't mean you are normal all day long. Also, if you had a particularly stressful drive to the doctor's office or had caffeine within several hours of the test, it could be inaccurate.

    ACTH Stim Test. This starts with a morning cortisol as a baseline and then you are injected with a measured amount of ACTH, which tells you adrenals to produce lots of cortisol. Your cortisol is then measured 30 minutes later and one hour later to see how well your adrenals responded. Since this measures how well your adrenals respond to stress, it can be a good indicator of adrenal fatigue if interpreted properly. This is the test that the author of From Fatigued to Fantastic recommends. Teitlebaum suggests cortisol treatment with the following results: baseline of <=12 or half hour increases of < 7 or 1 hour increase <11 with a 1 hour cortisol level <28.

    Non blood tests:

    An all-day Urine takes an average reading of the day and may come out "normal" especially in cases of mild adrenal fatigue or erratic production of cortisol. I don't recommend this test.

    Saliva based Adrenal Stress Tests take samples throughout the day can be a good indicator of adrenal response throughout the day. Since these tests is done at home or in your normal environment and then mailed in, you don't get the problem of being stressed over the dr. visit, and since several samples are taken throughout the day, you get a picture of how your levels vary. For example, "normal" is higher in the morning and diminshing throughout the day. You might have lower levels in the morning that climb in the afternoon and peak at midnight. This is a problem indicating that your are likely a night owl and don't handle things well in the morning and would liekly benefit from some adrenal support. That's just one example.

    Symptoms that are indicators of adrenal fatigue. Based on Teitlebaum's criteria, if you have three or more of these, you likely have adrenal fatigue and he suggests treatment with low doses of cortisol: sugar craving, shakiness relieved by eating, dizziness (especially when you first stand up), moodiness, recurrent infections that persist longer than expected, high stress at the onset of illness, or low blood pressure.

    Hope this helps!

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    I am adding my example of an effective communication with a doctor.
    Of course enter your own particulars. Fill the doctor in so she/he can make a decision and not have to research your whole history. The doc needs to know everything you are currently on and how long, your lab results, any supplements, all symptoms, etc.

    Copy of my real letter:

    To ... ......, MD
    Fax # (...) ... ....

    From name
    Phone number


    Dear Doctor .........,
    I had my TSH retested, June 14, ...., because I have increasingly been very tired, not wanting to wake up or get off a chair, and have been forgetting appointments due to mental fog.
    I thought my TSH may have risen, and it had, to 1.38.
    While my TSH may read low, I was feeling my best and losing weight at TSH .34, and now I am not losing and I am fatigued for no apparent reason.

    I would like to try a higher dose again, as I again can barely push my self forward.
    Right now my dose is Levoxyl 137 mcg.

    I have been taking the thyroid med with water, in the morning, an hour before eating or drinking.
    I had corrected my constipation with 200 mg. magnesium, nightly, which is not helping so much anymore. My feet are cool even in this heat. I am not otherwise ill.
    I was first DXed with severe Fibromyalgia symptoms at TSH 2, and was disabled from it for several years as my TSH climbed to 5.6.
    That all went away when I was at TSH .34.

    Besides the thyroid med, I daily take 5 mg daily of Tri-Est FHT, about 12 hours apart from the thyroid med. I also take B complex, A-8000mg, E -400mg, C-500mg, 200mg selenium.

    I hope you will permit an increase in thyroid med again, as it really seems the current dose is insufficient for me, personally. Please have the nurse leave a message if I am not available.
    My drug store is .... ..... , (...) ...-....

    Thanks very much!
    name...... .......
    include any insurance number

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    Regarding the relative strngths of Thyrolar and Armour, here's a chart that may be helpful to you.

    Thyrolar: (all in mcg)
    1/4 grain = 3.1 T3 + 12.5 T4 = T4 equivalency of 24.9 mcg
    1/2 grain = 6.25 T3 + 25 T4 = T4 equivalency of 50 mcg
    3/4 grain = 9.375 T3 + 37.5 T4 = T4 equivalency of 75 mcg
    1 grain = 12.5 T3 + 50 T4 = T4 equivalency of 100 mcg
    1 1/2 grains = 18.75 T3 + 75 T4 = T4 equivalency of 150 mcg
    1 3/4 grains = 21.88 T3 + 88 T4 = T4 equivalency of 175.52 mcg
    2 grains = 25 T3 + 100 T4 = T4 equivalency of 200 mcg
    and so on

    Armour: (all in mcg)
    1/4 grain = 15mg = 2.25 T3 + 9.5 T4 = T4 equivilency of 18.5 mcg
    1/2 grain = 30mg = 4.5 T3 + 19 T4 = T4 equivilency of 37 mcg
    3/4 grain = 45mg = 6.75 T3 + 28.5 T4 = T4 equivilency of 55.5 mcg
    1 grain = 60mg = 9 T3 + 38 T4 = T4 equivilency of 74 mcg
    1 1/2 grains = 90mg = 13.5 T3 + 57 T4 = T4 equivilency of 111 mcg
    2 grains = 120mg = 18 T3 = 76 T4 = T4 equivilency of 148 mcg
    and so on...

    I am not a doctor, nor have I ever played one on TV...

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