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    Old 03-05-2004, 08:59 AM   #1
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    Skin Tags?

    Anyone here have skin tags? I have been HypoT and on Synthroid for 13 years. I have developed an excessive amount of skins tags around my neck and shoulders and under my arms since then. I have them removed (which is VERY expensive and NOT covered by insurance) and they just come back.

    My cosmetic surgeon said that he doesn't know the exact cause, but he has seen this more in people on Synthroid and people with HypoT.

    Just wondering if anyone else has this and if there is really a connection???

     
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    Old 03-05-2004, 09:18 AM   #2
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    Re: Skin Tags?

    Skin tags are a prime marker for insulin resistance (common in pre-diabetic states). If you have central obesity (many hypos do), then you are more likely to have insulin resistance. To see if you have central obesity, measure your waist one inch above the naval and your hips at the widest point, then calculate the waist/hip ratio (divide waist into hip measurement); if the value is more than 0.8 for a woman or 1.0 for a man, then the person has central obesity. It's a problem because abdominal fat breaks down more easily than fat from other areas of the body and causes mischief with things like proper glucose and insulin functioning. I should add that you do not have to be obese overall to have central obesity--you can be at an overall healthy weight but be carrying too much body fat around your middle as opposed to your hips.

    The good news is that diet and exercise takes care of insulin resistance nicely. Exercise is really key because it improves the ability of cells to take up glucose (lowering the need for more insulin), and I just read recently that a diet for hypertension (called the DASH diet) has shown remarkable abilities to lower insulin resistance. You might try a Google search for the diet if you're interested.

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    Old 03-05-2004, 09:23 AM   #3
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    I probably should have mentioned - I was recently diagnosed as T2 diabetic and am being treated for this. Are you saying that skin tags are caused by the diabetes? Will they stop growing once the diabetes is under control or will I continue to grow them forever?

    I am not talking about a few here and there, I am talking about hundreds, maybe even thousands! Thank g*d I can cover them with my clothing. I always have the ones that show removed (its soooo expensive).

    Oh, and I don't even have to measure to answer the obesity question - I am sure that I am - I am 100lbs overweight - something I am addressing now.

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    Old 03-05-2004, 10:10 AM   #4
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    I can't predict what will happen, but I strongly suspect they will be less of a problem once you get your endocrine troubles under control. My father used to be quite heavy and had at least a dozen skin tags, but then he lost the extra weight and started exercising (he walks briskly 10 miles every day), and now he doesn't have any skin tags any more.

    I know that skin tags are a marker for insulin resistance, but that does not mean they aren't caused by other things. They do seem to be partly inherited, though, and you are describing a number of skin tags that is far greater than my father had. But if insulin resistance contributes to the problem, then you will probably get some relief by getting the diabetes under control.

    One website claims that some people have their skin tags disappear if they take chromium picolinate 200 mcg twice a day. Couldn't hurt to try.

     
    Old 03-05-2004, 03:21 PM   #5
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    Re: Skin Tags?

    hmmm, I never connected my skin tags to my thyroid problems, thanks for the insights! I usually have them on my armpits and my eyelids...lately I have found them on my neck and hands. Kinda weird I have always though, but I don't have an overabundance of them, just a few here and there.

    thanks!

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    Re: Skin Tags?

    I just had a dozen tags removed from my neck last week, paid for by my Blue Cross. Doc said they were from my clothing irritating my neck. I'm about 20 lbs overweight...am going on Atkins again starting Monday. It works wonders for me. My blood tests for diabetes always turn out fine, even though my mother was a brittle diabetic. She lived on carbs, was a heavy Pall Mall smoker and drank hard liquor on a daily basis. I've never heard this marker thing before. Anyone have any facts on this?

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    Old 03-05-2004, 03:39 PM   #7
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    Re: Skin Tags?

    I have Hashi's and a ton of skin tags, BUT my mother also had a ton of them and had no thyroid or blood sugar problems. My husband, OTOH, has minor thyroid problems, is a Type 2 diabetic and has not one skin tag.

     
    Old 03-06-2004, 07:08 AM   #8
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    Re: Skin Tags?

    I have so many of them on my neck that I cannot wear my gold chain (very small and ahem ladylike) they are very visible. Also a zillion HUGE ones on my chest walls under zee boobs, and around my midriff. Several now on the back of my neck as well as the covering on the sides of my neck.

    None on my face, and a new one is developing right where I think my thyroid is living!!!

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    I have so many of them on my neck that I cannot wear my gold chain (very small and ahem ladylike) they are very visible. Also a zillion HUGE ones on my chest walls under zee boobs, and around my midriff. Several now on the back of my neck as well as the covering on the sides of my neck.

    None on my face, and a new one is developing right where I think my thyroid is living!!!

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    Bonnie, Are you on synthroid? Are you diabetic or insulin resistant? Your skins tags sound EXACTLY like mine.

    Everybody tells me they must be hereditary, but NOBODY else in my family has or has had them.

    I should also mention that I did not develop any skin tags until I was diagnosed as HypoT and started taking Synthroid. hmmm...???

     
    Old 03-06-2004, 09:47 AM   #10
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    I should also mention that I did not develop any skin tags until I was diagnosed as HypoT and started taking Synthroid. hmmm...???
    But you said in another thread that you gained 100 pounds prior to your hypo dx 13 years ago and you never lost the weight. I think the fact that you started noticing the skin tags after you began LT4 therapy is coincidental. Insulin resistance is caused by obesity--even more specifically, a significant gain in weight that is maintained for a long time--and skin tags are frequently found in insulin resistant people. Also, the progress of insulin resistance to type II diabetes takes years to develop, so my hypothesis would be that you developed insulin resistance at the time that you gained 100 pounds prior to your hypo dx, and your insulin resistance has progressed over nearly fourteen years to your recent dx of full-blown type II diabetes. I really don't think the Synthroid (or any replacement hormone) has anything to do with it; it's the extra weight causing insulin resistance that led to both skin tag development and full-blown type II diabetes over the course of 13-14 years.

    I know you said your old doctor retired 18 months ago, and I have to say I don't think he served you well at all. I don't know whether he was a GP or an endocrinologist, but he seems to have missed a major symptom that should have been followed up on with glucose and insulin testing; more than that, he probably underdosed you with LT4 from the beginning, which made it hard to drop the weight.

    Have you had your lipids checked? Chronic untreated or undertreated hypothyroidism wreaks havoc on your cholesterol levels (they shoot way up), whereas hyperthyroidism causes cholesterol levels to be abnormally low.

    Is your current doctor a GP or an endo? If you aren't seeing an endo, I think you should consider it.

     
    Old 03-06-2004, 11:59 AM   #11
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    Re: Skin Tags?

    yep I am on what ever the CDN version of synthroid is Levothyroixine (eltroxin) and correct these tags did not develop nor did moles enlarge (used to call it a 'beauty mark' on my chest.... until medication. I am not diabetic, never have had a abnormalities in that area of blood, and my triglyceride count is. My mom has just told me (she is 86) that my father had several skin tags on his neck, and he used to just tie some thread ewwww! I am a chicken at age 54 so wont do that.....

    1.39 with a lab range of BELOW 2.30
    Cholesterol is up (cdn ranges are diff to USA) 6.07 Lab range (below 5.20)

    HDL cholesterol 1.47 (0.90-2.07)
    LDL cholesterol (high too) 3.97 (BELOW 3.40)
    LDL/HDL RATIO 2.70 (BELOW 3.20)
    CHOL/HDL RATIO 4.13 (BELOW 4.40)

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    Old 03-07-2004, 01:56 AM   #12
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    i've had skin tags since my teenage years and more when i went on BCPs ...i was thin as a rake for years ('til i was 50?), and then only gained about 15 pounds (most of which i've subsequently lost) ...

    i think one notices the skin tag thing after the hypo and synthroid thing, and by the way, i've had fewer skin tags since i've been hypo ...

    i may have this type of obesity that you speak of, altho' i haven't done the measurements ...

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    Old 03-07-2004, 06:01 AM   #13
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    Maura, I think you are correct - my previous doctor did not treat me correctly and/or ignored symptoms. I have an doctor appointment on Tuesday and am going armed with all the great information I learned here.

    In my most recent labs (early feb) not only was my thyroid 8.6 but my cholesterol was extremely high - not a problem I have had before. I am being treated for that now, as well.

    I was referred to an endo once and he was rude rude to me, told me that there was nothing seriously wrong with me, and told me my visit wasted his time. This was very early on when I was first diagnosed as hypoT. That experience did a few things to me - it made me think that my condition was not serious and it gave me bad feeings about going to a specialist. And here I am today with all sorts of problems...

     
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    I was referred to an endo once and he was rude rude to me, told me that there was nothing seriously wrong with me, and told me my visit wasted his time. This was very early on when I was first diagnosed as hypoT. That experience did a few things to me - it made me think that my condition was not serious and it gave me bad feeings about going to a specialist. And here I am today with all sorts of problems...
    good grief, he was paid for his time, wasn't he?? and oh so bad, that you should think your condition wasn't serious ... and perhaps if it had been caught at that time, a better outcome? i think so ...

    phooey on that so-called "doctor" ...
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