Can you become cured on your own?

08-21-2004, 07:21 AM

Ok, this is getting rediculous now. I spent Wed. in the ER due to a flare up with high pulse and high bp (177/115 116 BPM) when Im otherwise normal.

In the last 3 months I've lost almost 40 pounds now and feel real hyper at times. I've been dieting but have never been able to lose weight in the past.

Here's my lab summary....let me know whatcha think and why am I all over the boards? Is my body becoming more efficient at losing weight and my metabolism is ramping up or is my "HYPO" thyroid getting healthy and I am returing to normal...am I getting cured? I am still not on any meds:

Taken April 13, 2004:

Cortisol 13.3 mcg/dl Reference Range 4.3 - 22.4
Prolactin - ABNORMAL HIGH - 18.8 - Reference Range 2.1 - 17.7

TSH (3rd. Gen.) - ABNORMAL HIGH - 15.353 - Reference Range .4 - 5.5
T4 FREE - .9 NORMAL LOW - Reference Range .8 - 1.8
T3 FREE - 4.51 ABNORMAL HIGH - Reference Range 2.30 - 4.20
T3 TOTAL - 1.92 ABNORMAL HIGH - Reference Range .70 - 1.79
Thyroxine - 9.0 - NORMAL - Reference Range 4.5 - 12.0

Taken May 7, 2004

TSH (3rd. Gen.) - ABNORMAL HIGH - 14.641 - Reference Range .40 - 5.5
T4 FREE - NORMAL LOW - 1.0 - Reference Range .8 - 1.8
T3 FREE - NORMAL - 3.66 - Reference Range 2.30 - 4.20
T3 TOTAL - ABNORMAL HIGH - 1.96 - Reference Range .70 - 1.79
Thyroxine - NORMAL - 9.8 - Reference Range 4.5 - 12.0

Prolactin - ABNORMAL HIGH - 23.5 - Reference Range 2.1 - 17.7
Testosterone - ABNORMAL LOW - 214.22 - Reference Range 241.00 - 827.00

Taken July 2004

TSH: 9.119 Ref .4-5.5
T3 Free: 3.87 NORMAL - Ref. 2.3 - 4.2
T3 TOTAL: 1.80 ABNORMAL - Ref. .70 - 1.79
Thyroxine (T4): 8.5 NORMAL - Ref. 4.5 - 12.0
T Uptake 30.00 NORMAL - Ref. 22.8 - 38.4
FTI 2.6 NORMAL - Ref. 1.0 - 4.0

ANTIBODIES:
Thyroglob Ab 326 ABNORMAL HIGH - Ref. 00 - 74
Thyr. Perox Ab 1,014 ABNORMAL HIGH - Ref. 00 - 74

Taken August 18 2004 at the ER

TSH 6.89 High
Free T4 1.2 Normal

08-21-2004, 08:32 AM

Your high prolactin level....have they investigated the possibility of a pituitary tumor?

I see that you have high TPO and TG Abs....so you definately have autoimmune thyroid disease. But I'm confused about a high FT3 and low FT4...or did I read that wrong?

08-21-2004, 09:15 AM

Nope...that's the big trouble...high T3 and no tumors. My doc doesnt get it and I dont get it but Im always wired feeling and wish my T3's would be lower.

08-21-2004, 10:47 AM

Have you had your cortisol levels checked?

08-21-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hypodude

Nope...that's the big trouble...high T3 and no tumors. My doc doesnt get it and I dont get it but Im always wired feeling and wish my T3's would be lower.

You're in the throes of going through Hashimotos. In other words, you're going hyper/hypo and this will continue until you're thyroid eventually dies. There's nothing you can do about it. It's an autoimmunity response, your own body is killing it. This is not unusual to have such whacky things going on.
I think that finding another doctor is in order since your doc doesn't seem to know what to do for you. I usually suggest that you try calling an osteopathic or naturalistic doctor......NOT...an endo. They're not very well versed in thyroid care, although the thyroid is an endocrine gland. Medical doctors mostly like to go by the book (which isn't kept very updated) whereas osteopathic/naturalistic docs usually go by how you feel and your symptoms, and don't go by your labs exclusively. There is a BIG difference on how they treat you. Call their offices and ask if they use the Free T3 and Free T4, and Armour if indicated.....before making an appointment IF they say yes. If not.....call the next one! The only reason I'm suggesting this is because these types of doctors are more apt to be flexible, and you can use all the flexibility that you can handle. This process can keep going for better than two years.
Your best defense is to educate yourself on this.......don't go to the doctor in the "dark".
Good luck!
Judy

08-21-2004, 11:44 AM

Are you saying two years of this crap before my Thyroid dies? It's been a year since I've had problems which would mean one more year of crap? Jeez. I don't think I can handle another year like this last one. I wish my Thyroid would just croak already and turn me Hypo if that's what its going to be. I can't take these panic attacks anymore.

08-21-2004, 12:01 PM

Hi Hypodude,

Have you read "Solved the Riddle of Illness " by Dr Stephen E Langer?

He says a person with diagnosed HAIT doesn't have to remain on prescription thyroid forever when careful attention is paid to eating a well-balanced diet of natural foods and taking proper supplements. He has weanned many of his HAIT patients from a thryoid supplement in a relatively short time- 3-6 months by bolstering their immune systems nutritionally.
What caused HAIT? He has no evidence from published research but however by his clinical experience leads him to believe it is caused by a viral infection such as chronic Epstein-Barr virus or systemic candidiasis that may trigger the body's autoimmune response to the thyroid.
I am still not on any med either...just want to get a second opinion before I do anything and do more research about the thyroid. The doctors sure don't tell you much! They say ..."here take this pill" see ya in a month. I like to be sure why I am popping anything into my mouth and not just take a doctors word about it. undefined

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