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    Old 06-17-2009, 06:07 PM   #1
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    Thyroid problems and bromelain


    My story is quite long but I'll try to make it short and I really need
    some kind of support and tips on what to do next.

    I'll jump right into it. I'm a 22 years old, 170 pounds, 6' tall
    somewhat healthy male. I say somewhat healthy because I never was like
    the boys of my age for a lot of reasons and I've been searching for
    most of my life for a better me.

    First of all, I never felt the same energy levels as other people,
    I've been the kind of person who's tired even after nights of 10 or 11
    hours of sleep for most of my life. I think it got worst in the recent
    years. I would get extremely tired during the day if I had only 7
    hours of sleep.

    Also, I was shy to go shirtless when I was young because even dough I
    was slim, I had some kind of boobs. They are still there today but I
    trained and my pecs hide them a bit. As far as training goes, I wanted
    to be bulky and muscular for most of my life and trained with good
    technique and proper nutrition for a long time but hit a plateau soon
    in my life and I've always been weaker physically than everybody else
    no matter how hard I tried. I ended up gaining fat but no muscle.

    I also always felt that I had lower testosterone levels because I had
    less aggressivity or drive for challenge or sports than my friends.
    Instead of being exiting, sports where scary for me for most of my
    life. I've been sensitive to cold most of my life too and I even hated
    winter because of that and was cold as hell while my friends where

    Also, I remember having thick black hair when I was young but I don't
    remember losing it because it was probably so gradual, but now my hair
    is so thin and scarce that I have to shave or else I look stupid.

    Sexually, I was plagued with premature ejaculation for as long as I
    can remember and my sexual life as been greatly affected because of a
    lack of confidence because of that.

    Finally, my beard never grew and I hardly have some kind of mustache.
    No hair whatsoever on my belly or chest either. Some of my muscles
    have also always been really tight and my hamstrings are even causing
    me problems like knee pain if I run.

    This might be unrelated, and I'll explain why later but I've also been
    plagued with abundant headaches and bad allergies for most of my life.

    Now, I saw some doctors when I was young for some of those problems
    (especially headaches and allergies) but none of them found
    interesting information to fix things up and I grew with the believe
    that doctors are often not very good at finding deeper problems so I
    resorted on my own to try to live a better life.

    About two years ago, being fed up of living this life and having read
    all the hype about the raw food died, I tried it and stayed on it for
    seven months. My problems on raw food actually got worse but I've
    sticked to it because I wanted to be better so bad and people in the
    community told me its just detox and that it will get better. I wont
    explain all the problems I had on raw food but they were abundant.

    I stoped when I lost too much weight and my energy levels where at an
    all time low and it took a while but I'm now back like before. The
    only things that got better while being raw was my allergies and
    headaches. For this reasons I started doing tests and eliminating one
    food group at a time to see what would cause this because it was now
    clear that it was what I ate.

    I discovered that it was cheese, yogurt, sour cream and all those
    fermented products containing lots of histamines that was causing
    this. I've looked into it and started to take bromelain, witch is
    believe to help with that.

    Well, let me tell you that bromelain helped a bit for the fermented
    products but not enough for me to eat them and feel good afterwards
    but changed my life completely for other reasons.

    All the problems I noted earlier in the post started to disappear
    suddenly. My energy levels where so high I couldn't believe my mind. I
    started to hit the gym again and go through and beyond my previous
    plateau in no time. I was feeling good in colder temperatures. I
    suddenly felt more aggresivity, was more positive, more drive and
    could sleep only four hours and be still fine during. Hair started to
    grow on my belly, chest and face and I now even have new blond hair
    growing on my head.

    Being really curious and wanting to get things the best they could be,
    I continued doing personal tests. I should also mention that after
    I've messed up my digestive system with the raw food diet, I started
    to take regular digestive enzyme supplements and it helped a lot. I
    first thought my body wasn't digesting correctly the proteins since
    bromelain is known to help digest proteins. However, I read that fat
    malabsorption is linked to low testosterone and it made sense since
    there is so little fat in a raw food diet and it went so bad.

    So in combination with the regular digestive enzymes and the
    bromelain, I started to take fat specific digestive enzymes and fish
    oil to get proper fat intake. It slowly got worse and my digestion
    started to slow down once again. I discovered that I was taking way to
    much enzymes and fat supplements and that it started to be hard again
    for my body to process and stopped everything but the regular enzymes
    and the bromelain. I also read that when you have fat malabsorption,
    you have pale stools and droplets of fat with your stools, something I
    never had so I discarded that fat possibility.

    I started to feel good again after stopping all those enzymes and fish
    oil and then read that zinc malabsorption could lead to low
    testosterone and hair loss. I started to take zinc while being careful
    to only take the recommended daily intake. It only took 2 or 3 days
    for me to start to feel bad again like if the effect of the now
    marvelous bromelain for me was gone. I then read that zinc can inhibit
    the effects of bromelain while magnesium can augment it.

    To retrieve my balance, I stopped zinc and waited for a couple of
    weeks but it was taking too long to get back to high energy that I
    felt and tried magnesium to try to make the bromelain effective again.
    After only the first magnesium pill, I started to feel like superman
    again but I started to feel bad with the following pills so I stopped.
    I figured I might have overdone it and that I only needed to give my
    body more time to get back to normal.

    However, after a couple of days, I started to feel bad in a new way
    because of bromelain. It's like if I stepped on the other side of a
    spectrum. Like if the magnesium put a magnifying effect on bromelain
    and I was now having too much of it. I stopped bromelain for a couple
    of days but the tiredness kicked in again so started back bromelain
    but saw those weird effects again.

    Noticing that, it led be to the conclusion that it's now something I
    don't digest but a gland problem. I looked into it and it strangely
    looks like hypothyroidism.

    Now if I stop completely taking bromelain, I feel tired and I have to
    sleep long nights again but when I take it (even only half a pill once
    a day now), I feel an other kind of tiredness, pressure on my face, my
    throat and around my eyes, I have difficulty reading or concentrating
    and I often have twitching muscles.

    I tried to find some kind of link between bromelain and the thyroid
    gland and found out bromelain is recommended to reduce inflammation of
    the gland. My logical thinking is telling me that somewhat magnesium
    multiplied the effect of bromelain and that I got into hyperthyroidism
    instead of being normal. I'm also scared because I read that some
    people get protruding eyes because of thyroid problems and I now often
    feel some pressure around my eyes.

    Now, I don't like my family doctor because she was never able to
    correctly diagnose my problems, but still she's able to refer me to a
    specialist so I took an appointment on July 7th since I don't want to
    mess whit that anymore and that now that I know where the problem is
    likely to come from, I feel more confident to seek help.

    However, I know there is a history of bad treatment for thyroid
    problems and I also understand that my thyroid probably only needs a
    little help since bromelain helped so much so I probably don't need
    the whole hormone replacement.

    The reason why I'm writing all this is to try to get help on what to
    do or try next before this appointment or before something is done by
    a specialist (because those things take a while). It would be even
    better for me to retrieve a healthy balance meanwhile and treatments
    might now even be necessary if I continue on feeling good. I'm not mad
    against myself of having tried so many different things and having
    messed up some things because I would probably never have discovered
    what it is that's causing me all those problems, but I would like to
    thrive like I did.

    Should I stop bromelain completely for a greater while? What could be
    causing this weird tiredness and pressure? Is it hyperthyroidism or
    could it be something else? What about Iodine, should a try to
    supplement with it? Could it make things even worse?

    Now, I know my post was long, but it is really worth it for me and I'm
    so thankful for anybody trying to help me in some way. I would
    sacrifice anything for my health.

    Thanks in advance!

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