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    Old 02-20-2014, 10:33 AM   #1
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    Question Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    Yes. It's 5 grains (300 mg). Not .5 (or 30 mg). I'm shaky, palpitations, gi upset, headache, muscles hurting. Waiting on dr office to open back up so I can call. Any similar experiences?

     
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    Old 02-20-2014, 11:34 AM   #2
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    This seems like a lot. Were you on Synthroid or something similar before starting Armour and if so what was your dose?

     
    Old 02-20-2014, 04:21 PM   #3
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    I was started on the generic of Synthroid on 25 mcg & took for about 2 weeks & that was about 3 weeks ago. But that's it.

     
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    A prescription that high for someone just starting in treatment would be very unsafe. Until you can contact the doctor, I personally wouldn't take another dose.

    What kind of doctor is this? General practice? Endocrinologist? Naturopath?
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    Old 02-21-2014, 05:37 AM   #5
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

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    A prescription that high for someone just starting in treatment would be very unsafe. Until you can contact the doctor, I personally wouldn't take another dose.

    What kind of doctor is this? General practice? Endocrinologist? Naturopath?
    ^ I agree! I have no idea why your doc would start you on an Armour dose that is so high when you were barely on a therapeutic dose of Synthroid. It seems very dangerous! Like why not start you on 1 grain? I would wait until you speak to your doc before taking anymore Armour at that dosage.

    Come back and let us know what your doc says-good luck!

     
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    I apologize for not filling in more details yesterday. I felt like dog poo on the bottom of a shoe! I felt like I could barely exist. I was shaky, nervous, very bad headache, queasy, irritable, palpitations, skin red & felt like it was on fire, severe muscle aches/pains.

    Ok. Here's a shortened version of my story (if you could call it short)...
    I'm 35 yo and diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 2009 at the age of 30. Fast forward to August 2013. My 15 year old son began having stress-induced seizures & through my persistence, found out he has POTS (dysautonomia). I have a lot of the same symptoms as him, including the seizures (Ive had 2 seizures; one in 2004 and one in 2005 both brought on in the middle of an extremely stressful situation but at the time drs were perplexed as to why I had them.) So I was checked for dysautonomia by having a tilt table study done and sure enough....I have it. Mine isn't as bad as my 15 yo. (which breaks my heart) But the dr said that with dysautonomia, people will often times have hypothyroidism and be deficient in Vitamin D. So on December 17 my TSH was 6.850 and my Free T4 was 1.07. My Vit D was 16.7. The dr (which is a cardiologist/whatever dr that treats autonomic disorders) put me on the generic form of Synthroid at 25mcg and 5,000 U of OTC Vit D. I started taking the generic Synthroid when I first woke up and I would stay sooooo nauseated all day. I took about 3 or 4 doses and I quit. Then about 2 weeks later, I decided I'd try it again so this time, I held on for about 2 weeks until I couldnt take it any longer. I contacted the dr and let them know how it was making me sick and the only thing they were willing to do was change the time of day I was taking it and have me take it right before bed and that wasn't working. So I just quit it all together. Fast forward 2-2.5 weeks and on Tuesday, I saw my MS Specialist (neurologist) and I was telling him about my issues with it and he suggested Armour Thyroid but at a low dose because I was already at the point of just never trying anything ever again and he told me how a lot of people do better with this, Yada, yada yada....I said ok, great. Let's do this! I took my first on Wednesday. Got all the same symptoms I listed just not as bad. So on Thursday, about 2 hrs after I took the med, I started getting all these HORRIBLE symptoms. Well, I never looked at the strength of the med and looked it up because I trusted the dr knew what he was doing. So, not knowing a thing about this drug, I looked at my bottle and it says Armour Thyroid 300 mg. I looked it up and found that to be equal to 5 grains. The starting dose is around .5 grains. So I feverishly call the pharmacy thinking they've made a mistake (rx was an escript) and maybe the rx said 30mg and they filled for 300mg. Nope. Not the case. They said the rx they got said 5 gr. So I called the dr office yesterday (was their first call after they opened back from lunch at 1pm) and the nurse said that's what the dr has written down. 5 grains. I said this isn't right, though. I explained all of my horrendous side effects that I was having and she said she'd leave a note for the dr and someone would call me back. Well, today is Friday and no one has called back. I called them and they said it may be monday before they'll be able to get back with me. I'm not jittery anymore but I still have a mind-blowing headache. I couldn't find much info online about taking such a high dose so I thought I'd come here for some of you guys' knowledge. Any thoughts? (besides switching dr's- I've learned my lesson. He's a d**n fine MS spec. & that's all he'll be. Never again will he treat anything other than my MS)

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    Old 02-21-2014, 05:06 PM   #7
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    Re: Started on Armour Thyroid 5 grains (300mg). Have you ever heard of this?

    Okay... More information is good. There's lots there to address, but I'll try to hit the key points.

    As I read along, I too was thinking it must have been the pharmacy's mistake. But clearly, this MD does not understand the difference between "low" and "high" doses of Armour! It's not unusual for a doctor to have minimal understanding of conditions they don't regularly treat. My thyroid doc (who is a family practitioner) missed diagnosing an unusual blood condition that I turned up with. I still went to him for thyroid, but no longer trusted him with anything else... Understandably, I think.

    The most common cause of hypoT is an autoimmune disease called Hashimoto's thyroiditis. I've not heard of the condition causing yours... dys...something. But treatment for low thyroid is generally the same no matter the cause. Replacement prescription hormone in the right amount for one's needs. The starter dose of Synthroid was spot on. But one reason you became so nauseated might be that your adrenal glands are weak, making your cells unable to process the thyroid hormone. The condition is named in Synthroid's prescribing information, and needs to be addressed before thyroid can be successfully replaced. Nausea is a hallmark symptom of adrenal fatigue. So that's something to look into before you start thyroid replacement again. Sorry, I don't know much more than that about adrenal fatigue.

    I suppose you'll be looking for a new thyroid doc. Don't be tempted to look for an endocrinologist, because they are not the best at thyroid matters. We frequently suggest asking area pharmacists for names of MDs who send them the Armour (or Cytomel) scripts they fill, because those MDs generally know more about thyroid treatment than ones who won't prescribe them. One board member here found a good thyroid doc when she sent out a message on her social network. GPs, family practitioners, internists, or osteopaths (DOs) are often the best at treating thyroid.

    And then... Read, read, read. The more you know about low thyroid and how to optimally treat it, the better off you'll be. This is one disorder that you can't leave all up to the MD and still get what's best for you. A good basic primer is Thyroid for Dummies or our "Thyroid Symptoms List... " sticky thread.

    I hope you've stopped taking the Armour for the time being. No doubt you felt like death warmed over. I was once similarly overmedicated on Synthroid. It was horrendous, but I managed through. You will too.

    (Don't know if you're using a phone to post messages. Is that why you haven't used paragraph form? It would be so much easier on these old eyes to decipher. )
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