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    Old 04-03-2015, 10:35 PM   #1
    DM443
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    Unhappy Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    So I have read in a few places (mostly dentist websites) that if you have a closed lock case of TMJ for more than 4 months, there's a good chance that your only hope is surgery. With that said, I have yet to find one example online of someone who actually got anything good out of any TMJ surgeries. On the other hand, I could say the same for splints. The best I've seen online is something along the lines of: "well I've been wearing my splint for X months and I think it's helping?"

    I myself have tried 2 different splints, chiropractic, acupuncture, massage, self care (stretches, self massage, ice, heat, avoiding opening too wide or chewy foods, etc.) and everything either made things worse (mostly the splints), or just kept it from progressing (the self care stuff).

    All I want is for someone to tell me about something that actually worked for them! There has to be something!

    Currently my options include
    1. Driving hours away to try a treatment to reduce grinding and less to treat closed lock, but it's worth a try)
    2. I have a dentist that wants to give me a Gelb splint (I've read all kinds of terrible things about them, but it seems like re-positional splints are the only treatment available for recapturing the disc in closed lock)
    3. Every doctor/dentist I've seen told me to go to the same surgeon whom I looked up and every review on there regarding TMJ is horrific.
    4. I'm very curious about pivitol/pivot splints from a few seemingly reliable studies I've read online regarding treating closed lock that actually seem to be very positive but I don't know of any dentists that actually provide them and there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information about them online which makes me a bit skeptical.

    Does anyone have any insight on any of this and/or any alternative treatment methods that actually have somewhat of a track record of working?

    Thanks!

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    Old 04-04-2015, 07:46 AM   #2
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    Re: Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    I'm sorry to hear about your TMJ problems. My son is having issues and was told by one surgeon to have bilateral joint replacements. Got a second opinion and was told something totally different. The doctor gave us the name of a very highly regarded TMJ doctor. We have an appointment mid April. Have you been tested for sleep apnea? If I have any information at that time I will let you know. In the meantime, what city are you in and what doctor was recommended to you?

     
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    Old 04-04-2015, 10:10 AM   #3
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    Re: Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    Sounds familiar! I'm told something completely different from everyone I see who is supposed to be knowledgeable on the matter as well. I read on one of the many TMJ websites that I visit that TMJ has no standardized treatment which pretty much allows doctors to approach it however they want, and as a result there's no such thing as a "TMJ Specialist." If I may ask, who is the highly regarded TMJ doctor you're seeing?

    No I have not been tested for sleep apnea however I'm pretty sure I have it because I wake up in the middle of the night very often and am told by others sleeping around me that I wake up with a snorting sound.

    From what I understand surgery is very highly looked down upon by TMJ sufferers, not sure if it's because there's a very low chance of it helping or a very high chance of it making things worse. Either way, it's scary.

    Thank you! Very much appreciated!

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    Old 04-06-2015, 11:53 AM   #4
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    Re: Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it! I have a few questions.
    1. So by "it does not cure the cause" I'm assuming you're sort of stuck with it and if you take it out the symptoms come back right?
    2. I would assume it would at least help make other treatments more bearable correct? Or are you not supposed to use it together with other treatments?
    3. Do you still wear it?
    4. Is your TMJ in closed lock, have a displaced disc, clicking, decreased range of motion or any other symptoms or do you just have pain?
    5. Did it help at all with your opening range of motion, jaw strength, or any other symptoms?

    Thanks again! Answers to these questions will be very helpful for me!

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    Old 04-06-2015, 12:46 PM   #5
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    Hi, here are my answers

    yes, it comes back if I don't wear it for several days but I can go a couple of days without wearing them. I have not had as bad a pain as before since I wear them. I wear them about 4 times (days) a week, and still wear them.

    I dont know if I have a displaced disc, I have not been diagnosed, but I have clicking, decreased range of motion, "stuffed" ears....and had those for 10 years at least. Never had a locked jaw before though. Lots of pain, especially in the morning, my muscles around - below my ears especially.

    apart from the pain (already a HUGE thing!) it has helped some (about one finger) with mouth opening range, but some days are better than others. And it's been only 5 weeks so far.

     
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    Old 09-04-2015, 09:57 PM   #6
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    Re: Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    Didine...how is the next gen working now? I am scheduled to get it soon.
    Dm443...I have a similar case as yours. The doc said I had stuck disks. I have limited opening, unable to chew anything and an open bite (the cause of all my pain)
    I had arthosentesis on both joints to try and get mobility back to my joints so that I can open up enough to get a bottom mouth piece, then braces ...I haven't decided on fixing my open bite with braces or surgery. Everyone is telling me not to have surgery but. Some have said that they had to have surgery bc they spent a fortune on braces to fix the open bite and it came back. I can't afford the mouth piece $3000. So I asked my surgeon what my options were and he told me about next generation.
    Have you tried it?
    He has given it to 10 people so far and it worked for 9. It is $750 and has a money back guarantee!
    I'm going for it! Would love to know how you are doing.

     
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    Old 09-05-2015, 03:57 AM   #7
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    Re: Is There Hope for TMJ in Closed Lock?

    Hi DM443,
    Is there hope if you've been in a closed lock for a lengthy period of time? I would think so actually, try an ordinary splint worn on the lowers for a while. In a closed lock as you know, the disc is being crushed forwards infront of the condyle and acting as a door stop. With a splint, the condyle finds it's optimal resting place within the fossa (Ball and socket joint where lower jaw meets skull). So whether this will get you out of a closed lock while the splint is worn I am not totally sure. There is a high chance that about two days after the splint has been worn, the disc will slip back onto the head of the condyle. Meaning you can then move onto orthodontics to stabilise that optimal teeth/jaw relationship. Please avoid surgery unless you absolutely need it. Many of these surgeries have a terrible success ratio. The gelb splint is actually a good splint. I've done splint and orthodontics and they have basically cured me so. Take care

    Take care

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