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    Old 12-21-2003, 02:40 PM   #1
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    Good evening (I apologize for the length of this post)

    I've always had a slightly enlarged lymph node under my jaw on the left side which the doctor told me (yesterday at the ER) was probably either from my sinusitis/rhinitis or from an early childhood infection that caused the node to become blocked (which according to her is harmless and common).

    My main concern right now is that the lymph nodes under my jaw going from one side to the other are swollen and sore. Mind you, they are not "huge" but they are definately swollen and I can't remember them ever being that way before and it is scaring me )-: .

    I have no idea why they would suddenly swell over the last 3-4 days but the only possabilities I can come up with are the following...

    1) I'm an ex-tobacco chewer with a small white-ish patch on my gum who chewed smokeless tobacco for 20 years but quit 5 days ago and went on nicotine gum. The doctor said she did see leukoplakia but my nodes were "unremarkable" and she did'nt see any tumors, malinancies or other "red flags". She lined me up to see an ENT next week for a possible biopsy. Could my nodes be swelling due to oral cancer?.

    2) It is cold/flu season here and I am told that there are "lots" of things going around. Could this simply be a virus or something?

    3) I got an injection of novacain when I had a tooth pulled. the dentist was extremely rude and insulting and even broke the law while I was there (long story). His uncruptulous and unethical behavior makes me wonder if he would re-use syringes just to save a buck or two - perhaps why I have swollen nodes now (although it's been a month or more since I saw him).

    4) An infected/impacted tooth can cause this sort of thing (I read) and I do have a lot of cavities. In fact, every time I go to the doctor, he reminds me that I really need to start taking better care of my teeth. Honestly, I hav'nt brushed them in probably 20 years or so because I chewed tobacco and felt that it was pretty useless since they would only get "dirty" again. I'm also missing quite a few teeth and the ones I have left are pretty much ground down (hint: I don't think you would want to kiss me).

    5) Upon discovering that I had one or more white patches (leukoplakia) in my mouth and being a chewer for 20 years, I became increasingly paranoid about oral cancer and so I read a lot about it and found out that having it can cause "an impairment in jaw movement". After reading this, I developed this habit of moving my jaw back and forth in a scissor-like motion every so often just to "test" wether I had any of the "jaw impairments" I had read about. This, I believe, is when I really started to get some pain and soreness in my jaw region but I thought only infection and cancer could cause swollen nodes rather than just movement...hmmm.

    6) Prior to all of this ocurring (and perhaps it's just coincidence), I had taken Celexa (10mg per day) for the better part of a week (I did have a lot of side affects).

    7) I suffer from acute sinusitis and allergic rhinitis but this has never really caused any swelling in my lymph nodes (that I've ever been aware of anyway). Could this be the reason my nodes under my jaw/chin are swollen?.

    These seven (7) things are all that come to mind and I'm not sure if any, all or a combination of them could cause the lymph nodes under my jaw to become moderately sore and swollen. Again, they are not huge, hot to the touch, red, etc and there is no "tracking". My temp as of the last 3-4 days has been around 98.2-98.6. My BP has been normal as has my appetite, stools, energy-level, motivation, etc. I don't really have any symptoms other than the swollen nodes. The ER doctor I saw yesterday shook her head and said "nah, I don't think so" when I asked her if she thought I had TMJ but I'll let you good people be the judge.

    As a side note, I HAVE had a small, pea-sized lymph node swelling behind my left ear that has ocurred maybe once every month or so for many years. It only ocurrs on the left side and I have no idea what this means. They are not rock-hard and they are not getting any bigger (or smaller). They are pea-sized or less right now (the ones under my jaw). I don't have swollen lymph nodes anywhere else at the moment.

    Anyway, I realize this is pretty long and I apologize for that. I would really appreciate any input on this situation and what is most likely causing it. I have been freaking over this for a week now and hopefully someone can tell me what this sounds like, if it's prety common, if they've experienced this themselves, etc, etc.

    Thank you (more than you could ever realize!!)

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    Old 12-21-2003, 03:56 PM   #2
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    Re: Could this be TMJ?? - (sore/swollen) jaw nodes

    all i can really suggest is going to a doctor [or two or three] and getting a proper diagnosis. it seems like there are many possible causes for your problems, and i definitely dont have the expertise to tell you that you definitely have TMJD. :)

    does your jaw click or pop? do you have limited opening? does your joints hurt [beside your ear]? there is a thread on this forum that details the most common TMJD symptoms, which i've bumped up for you.

    i'd most definitely go see a doctor if i were you, since you seem to be quite concerned and there could be several causes for your problem.

    take care and good luck with your quest!

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    Old 12-21-2003, 04:15 PM   #3
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    Hi and again I apologize for the length of this post (I can imagine it's probably torture just to read through it

    My jaw does'nt click or pop really but of course anytime you move your jaw around a lot it's liable to make a few noises here and there. The hinges of my jaw ARE sore though but I am able to open my mouth and even move my jaw around a bit without any pain or restriction of movement. As a matter of fact, the soreness has actually abated over the past few days and I have stopped the bad habit I had of "testing" for oral cancer by moving my jaw back and forth a lot.

    Let me ask you something...can just moving your jaw back and forth (if done more than normal) cause the nodes under your jaw to swell?. All I remember was being on Celexa for a week, doing the "jaw thing" and now I have moderately swollen nodes under my jaw going all the way around.

    Thanks again (I really appreciate your reply and patience in reading all that!)

    Old 12-21-2003, 06:43 PM   #4
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    i dont know if moving your jaw around can cause the nodes to swell, but it could be possible that your muscles are not happy with all of the extra movements. the nodes could be knots in the muscles [built up lactic acid].

    like i said, i'd get it checked out by a pro.. sorry i couldnt be more help. :)

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    Old 12-21-2003, 08:25 PM   #5
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    I would suggest that you go to your family doctor for a thorough checkup. If you don't have one, get one. Also, it is probably time to get your teeth fixed. I can tell that you are really worried and I feel your pain. The only way to deal with your worry is action--go to a doctor and dentist and have them diagnose and treat. All the best to you.

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