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    Old 03-04-2004, 07:05 PM   #1
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    Unhappy sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    It seems like everyone else that posts gets at least one answer but me....anyways...I posted before about my orthadontist wanting to put me in an occlusal splint and then braces. Well the splint costs $795 my parents thought that was expensive for a piece of plastic that is going to change my bite so my parents suggested I try a mouthguard type thing (like the ones you use in sports) to see if that did anything. I used it last night and it seemed like I couldn't find my bite. It had gotting better throughout the day and it is just about back to normal now (like 10:00 pm). It was just a little off...akward feeling!! Is this normal? Is that how I my teeth would feel if we did spend the money? The orthadontist said i would only have to wear it at night if that makes a difference.

    Please respond!! It will be greatly appreciated!!

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    Old 03-04-2004, 07:30 PM   #2
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    um, i wouldnt take it personally that some of your posts arent getting responses. no one's out to get you. the problem is not with people ignoring you; instead, i guess people just dont know the answers to your questions.

    if it's not an actual repositioning splint, i'd be worried about your bite feeling off. the cheap mouthguards are not a good idea when you have TMJD symptoms - you need something that's been made for your TMJs, mouth, and symptoms. there's no such thing as a cheap fix for TMJD [like everything else], unfortunately.

    take care,

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    Old 03-04-2004, 09:03 PM   #3
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    i agree with sarah, youd need a custom splint made for mallocculsion. the cheapist splint on the market is an NTI but it is only used for clenching and grinding. believe it or not, i've done some reading and custom slpints can cost as much as $2500 american! Ouch!

    sorry i didn't read your last post....why does your ortho want you to get a guard?

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    Old 03-05-2004, 04:15 AM   #4
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    Artbuggy,

    I was touched this morning that you felt you were being slighted here and no one was interested in your posts or problems. It seems the members, who are also patients seeking help themselves, have given as much help as possible.

    I don't see any posts that would give anyone an idea of your diagnosis. That's fine if you don't feel comfortable posting details, but it also makes it very hard for those of us who have a little experience to help.

    TMJD or a TM joint condition is so very different for everyone. Without knowing where you "are", it's almost impossible for anyone to be able to relate any similar eperiences. If I missed a post of this nature, I apologize.

    Without knowing what your ortho told you in regard to what she expects to accomplish with this splint, it's also very hard to give an opinion.

    Many members here may be a little older, but are still looking for the right treatment to ease thier TMJD symtoms. Many are in treatment and are dealing with questions regading their treatment and if it's working.

    There may be a couple like me, who started with treatment many years ago and have finally found the right one. I started in splints and braces in 1977, went through years of many surgeries and now for the past year, have been in splint therapy designed for the surgically damaged. It's working.

    TMJD is a very complicated disorder to deal with and finding appropriate treatment, is not easy. If this problem was simple to diagnose and treat, there would be no need of this Information-Support Forum. We would all be well.

    There is a wealth of knowledge and experience here from young and old. Everyone is willing to help, when they feel they can offer good advice.

    saaraah's advice about a storebought mouthguard is excellent advice. This is not a good idea for anyone who has TMJ problems. I don't know who these things would benefit, but certainly not people with TMJD.

    A splint designed for you by an ortho or other provider, will be made from molds taken from your mouth. If made properly, it should fit comfortably and not make your bite worse. It should alleviate symtoms you are having, not create symtoms that you did not have before.

    I completely understand the financial problems. I could have bought my own private Island with the money I've spent in the last 25 years.

    You're young and do not want to let a TMJ problem left unattended. It can ruin your life, if it's bad enough. It ruined a good portion of mine and other members here are so sick, (the Implant Patients), they do not feel like posting much of the time.

    If you're in the very early stages of TM joint or muscular problems, getting appropriate treatment now will cost much less in dollars and your life will possibly be normal, in a year or so. Possibly had I been treated at your age with the technology that is available now, I would not be here writing this note.
    In 1967, no one knew what TMJ was, much less how to treat it, but I had it.
    I was diagnosed @ 25 and it was too late for splints and braces to help.
    (surgery was all there was and that was all a mistake too)

    Maybe if you could get your parents to read more about TMJ and the consequences of leaving it untreated or getting inappropriate treatment, they might could figure out a way to get you the help you need.

    I would be happy to answer any questions you have that I may have some experience with and I'm sure many other members would too.

    To be able to help any further with answers, opinions and support( from Patients, such as yourself) we need to know a little more about what you're asking, and again, only if you feel comfortable with giving more information.

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    Old 03-05-2004, 07:13 AM   #5
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    When no one responds to a post, it simply means that no one has an answer to the question being asked. No one is ignoring you or your questions. In order for members to be able to help you, you can't be so vague with your questions. When you saw the ortho., what did he say? Are your problems joint-related or purely muscular? Have you had an MRI, tomograms or any other type of test? Have you had any recent dental work done prior to your symptoms, if so...what? Is your bite terribly off? Do your symptoms wax and wane, or are they constant/continuous? What is your opening?

    As for your splint costing $795, I'd say that's about average. I've paid about $150-1300 on splints. Some members have paid far more, it depends on who you see. Unfortunately, not everyone's cases are the same. What works for one, may not work for the other. We all have to end up doing research and trying to find someone educated in the area in which we reside.

    As for store bought mouthguards, I've heard they can make you worse.
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    Old 03-05-2004, 05:58 PM   #6
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    sorry I was just really annoyed that day, I didn't know that i was/mean to be so vague....here is the ansers to your questions/comments....

    [i]"if it's not an actual repositioning splint, i'd be worried about your bite feeling off. the cheap mouthguards are not a good idea when you have TMJD symptoms - you need something that's been made for your TMJs, mouth, and symptoms"[i] Saaraah

    As for the mouthguard my dad just wanted me to wear it for a night. Not long term he just wanted to see if it really changed my bite and to see if the spint would change my bite and how by how much.


    [i]"why does your ortho want you to get a guard?"[i] Anastasia

    She said I have a few contacts and she thought that the splint would take pressure off my muscles and relax them.

    [i]"you can't be so vague with your questions. When you saw the ortho., what did he say? Are your problems joint-related or purely muscular? Have you had an MRI, tomograms or any other type of test? Have you had any recent dental work done prior to your symptoms, if so...what? Is your bite terribly off? Do your symptoms wax and wane, or are they constant/continuous? What is your opening"[i]

    I appoligize I didn't realize I was being so vague. The orthodontist said I had a few contacts and that she thought the splint would lessen them and take the pressure off my muscles. And it would change my bite so I would have to get braces. They didn't really do any tests because my parents thought that was a lot of money to spend and I assume that if we decide to use her to help me with this that she will do some tests. But in answer to your question no when i went. I have not had any major dental work... I that was the first time i had ever been to an orthadontist. No my bite istn't off normally just when i wore the mouth guard to bed it just felt off. My symptoms are normally on and off I have had days though where I was in pain for like the whole day with a headache and the whole works. the orthadontist didn't measure my opening but when i measured it, it was just short 4 1/2 cm. Do you know what is normal??

    Sorry it was so long. I don't mind answering questions just ask! Thanks for responding to my questions though.

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    Old 03-07-2004, 01:09 AM   #7
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    I'm sorry that I don't have that much to offer you in the way of advice, other than to let the orthodontist take some tests and make you a splint. Maybe others will chime in with their thoughts.
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    Old 03-07-2004, 04:19 PM   #8
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    4 1/2 cm is 45 mm's. 50 mm's is normal, so you're pretty close to a normal opening. That's good news for you.

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    Old 03-08-2004, 07:17 AM   #9
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    My TMJ specialist/dentist suggested the same kind of treatment for me initially. I've been wearing a repositioning splint since September. It has helped decrease my headaches a lot. They took exrays, tomograms, and molds, and then made the splint. It moved my lower jaw forward to it's correct position. The next phase of treatment was to be braces, but he now says that I should get crowns to make my teeth meet correctly. He thinks that if I wear an NTI at night, that my headaches should be gone altogether. The splint cost me $1595.

     
    Old 03-08-2004, 05:57 PM   #10
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    My mom now is thinking of giving up... she thinks it is pointless to spend $795 on a splint that is going to change my bite then be put in braces that will bring them back in position. What do i tell her....she thinks the problems will all come back after the braces come off. HELP!!! I don't want to give up!!

     
    Old 03-08-2004, 06:04 PM   #11
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    Re: sheesh!! Does anyone respond!!

    cant your mother come to this forum and ask her questions here? i think it would be important for her to air her concerns and get some answers, or, at least, opinions from many TMJD sufferers.

    the thing with a repositioning splint is that you dont have to get orthodontics. you can opt to have a permanent splint made, which you wear for the rest of your life. dont feel pressured into having something done which you dont feel ready for.

    $795 is not that much money for a splint especially when it has the possiblity of giving you a much better quality of life and reducing future turmoil and pain.

    there should be other options than orthodontics if you/your mom doesnt feel comfortable with it. there's no reason why you cant continue wearing a splint if it helps you out [that's my plan, anyway].

    take care and get your mom to come to this forum!

    - saaraah.

     
    Old 03-08-2004, 08:10 PM   #12
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    i agree again!

    got your mom in the forum. alot of moms don't take they're kids seriously when it comes to TMJ problems. i haven't figured out why...i guess they're just afraid of being ripped off. i think if she reads some of these posts she will realize that you need help. a TMJ problem won't get betteron its own, unfortunatley they usually get worse.

    my problem started years ago but i didn't thing anything of it until i got dizzy and had constant migraines. i'm wearing an NTI right now but am also having a repositioning splint that will cost me about $2000(CDN). i concider it a worthy investment. so do my parents who are paying for it.

    tell yourmom shes welcome to ask any questions or even just sift through previous posts. the more info she can get, the better for both of you.

     
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