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Anyone had an anterior deprogrammer made?


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Old 01-11-2009, 09:27 AM   #16
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Re: Anyone had an anterior deprogrammer made?

You have pretty much the same symptoms I am having, and mostly on the right. Have you tried any PT, osteopath manipulation, or chiro(I'm afraid of chiros as one made me worst) but some here have been helped with chiro.

Do you still have the clicking in the joint. Have you had tomograms or and MRI of your joints done?

Its awful to have to deal with this isn't it. I don't have dental ins. either.

 
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:35 AM   #17
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I haven't had an MRI, tomogram, PT, or seen a chiro. The last dentist I saw at Case did an acoustical adjustment, but it didn't help either - might have made it worse. I have clicking and grinding on both sides, but it's worse on the right side.

 
Old 01-11-2009, 07:08 PM   #18
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Hi Elaine G, what a story. I feel so much for you! Can associate with all your symptoms.
It's pity you didn't have an MRI or some other jaw tests. It would be essential to know what is the state of your disks now before any other treatment. You don't have the insurance to cover these tests, right?

Is that bridge still in place? Did you have much dental work done since then or mostly appliances and "treatments"?
Bite is the key to tmj, there is no way around.

I am wondering whether you tried to sue that dentist hammering the bridge?? He'd deserve to lose his license!

 
Old 01-12-2009, 08:13 AM   #19
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I talked to a lawyer about suing the dentist but he said it would be very hard to prove that the dentist caused my TMJ. I have told this to every dentist that I've seen since, but they choose to ignore the fact that a dentist actually did this to me. I don't have the money for an MRI, even when I had insurance, not one dentist suggested an MRI. I eventually had to have the bridge removed because when he brutally installed it, he cracked the tooth under it, which was at the end. Since the bridge covered the last three teeth in my mouth, the middle tooth was missing and now the end tooth is missing, so I don't have any teeth there and can only chew on my left side. This is causing problems on the left side because I'm only chewing on the left side. I don't know who to go to next!

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Old 01-12-2009, 03:07 PM   #20
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I understand about the difficulty of suing a dentist: I had my own troubles for which even dentists told me to sue the one who caused it. I think you could have sued him for cracking the tooth underneath! This is a permanent change and is provable.
I am so empathetic with you, know all about it!

On that left side do you still have one premolar and a canine? Do your fronts touch (upper and lower ones)?
I think it's quite essential that the contacts on your remaining teeth be the proper ones. This might eliminate your tmj pains at least and will preserve your right side from new problems.
I know you can't afford much work. I'd suggest to check on dentists doing bite equilibration, which is eliminating improper contacts. As I've suggested on another thread, before any dental work it's a good idea to ask for a back-up plan and before-and-after models. Any minor bite adjustment can be catastrophic!
If you are looking for specialists, I was told by a good dentist to look for the graduates from Pankey Institute, or Dawson's Center or KOIS center; this is where they study occlusion as a system, not as "see a tooth, fix a tooth".

 
Old 01-13-2009, 05:19 AM   #21
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Re: Anyone had an anterior deprogrammer made?

To answer your question, on the left side, yes, I still have all my teeth except for my wisdom teeth. Iím not sure what you mean when you asked, do my fronts touch. When I close my mouth, my front teeth do not touch. On the left side when I close my mouth, the bottom and top teeth start touching from my canine eye teeth back to my 2nd molar. On the right side, they start touching back to my 2nd premolar since the last two teeth on top are missing. Hope this makes sense to you. I appreciate your help and will look into finding a dentist who graduated from Pankey or Dawson.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 11:16 AM   #22
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Thanks for your feedback. Do you also have ear pain from your tmj?
What you wrote makes sense. You might have an open bite which leads to your clicking and jaw pains. Not every open bite is a problem but it might create problems easily allowing the jaw to slide forward more than it "wants". Since you have the jaw pains asymmetric (right?) your jaw can also be sliding forward more on the right side.
Let me know if you'll see a specialist on occlusion. Ask about their experience, be careful and ask them to be careful too! Make sure they know about your tmj pains and other symptoms.

 
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