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    Old 06-19-2002, 05:00 AM   #1
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    Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    I have been diagnosed as a TMJ sufferer.

    Does anyone have problems with their ears, like fullness of stuffiness, especially when waking up in the morning ? Every morning I wake up, I feel as though I have been kicked in the jaw.

    My teeth also hurts, all the way along the right side of my jaw. Has anyone else exprienced this ? I was considering having these teeth removed, although my specialist has recommended that I do not do this.

    I had my lower wisdom teeth removed around 6 months ago, and since then, the pain has been unbearable. Every day is the same. I have been given the usual drugs for inflammation, and pain, although these only really make me drowsy, so I can sleep.

    Basically, my specialist wanted me to make sure that I didn't open me jaw completely when I yawned, and wanted me to steer clear of hard foods, such as apples and toast.

    I have been visting the ENT clinic where I live repeatedlly in an effort to attempt to resolve the ear problems- I also seem to suffer with tinnitus.

    As well as this, my teeth on the right side of my face hurt all the time - has anyone else had probkems with this ? I really wanted to have these teeth removed, although I want to aviod this if at all possible.

    I have done a lot of research on CranioMandibular Joint Dysfunction and TemporoMandibular Joint Dysfunction, and have been diagnosed as a TMJ sufferer.

    I am due to go and see a chiropractor today, who is also a Cranio Sacral Therapist - maybe this can help ?

    I saw an article that somebody posted a while back here about doing yoga - does this really help ?

    My main concern is the facial pain that I keep suffering every day. My teeth constantly hurt, and I always feel like I have been kicked in the jaw - especially when I wake up in the morning.

    Can anyone help me ? Does anyone else have the same symptoms ? Was anyone able to get help and relief from the pain ?

    Thanks

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    Old 06-19-2002, 08:53 AM   #2
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    I definately think your on the right track with seeing the chiropractor, this has helped me alot!! Also make sure your getting enough water. Exercize helps the body relax too. I had teeth pain alone with the same other symtoms your experiencing, and the tooth pains had to do with the start of receding gums, plus I was grinding my teeth. When your stressed or in pain, it depletes the water in the body.

    Pay attention to what the chiro. does to you, I've continued the messages that mine did when neccessary, and it seems to help alot.

    Also when you had your wisdom teeth pulled it might of put a great strain on your already sore jaw/mouth. <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/frown.gif">

    Whenever I notice that I'm grinding my teeth I just message where my chiro. did, this helps relax those jaw muscles.

    Have you considered using sensidyne toothpaste for your tooth pain? It really does help.

    I hope this has been some help to you. I also want to mention that some whiplash suffers get this TMJ stuff as a problem down the road. Someone posted on the 'new topic' board about Thorasic outlet syndrome (spelling?) you might want to check that out too. Diana <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif">

     
    Old 06-19-2002, 09:25 AM   #3
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    Hi TMJ234,

    Welcome! You said you'd been diagnosed with TMJ? Just curious, who diagnosed you (Dr., Dentist) and what type of diagnostic testing (i.e. X-rays, etc.) did he/she do to arrive at the diagnosis?
    I am a TMJ "survivor" and I had all the symptoms you described. My symptoms were alleviated with splint therapy and orthodontics, plus complimentary therapies such as physiotherapy, chiropractic adjustments and massage therapy with ultrasound.
    Unfortunately, there is no "quick fix" for TMJ, and most sufferers find it takes a combination of treatments/therapies to obtain relief.
    I seriously doubt that having some teeth removed will solve the problem - and may only make things worse.

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    Old 06-19-2002, 12:40 PM   #4
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    Thanks for the replies !

    Basically, my specialist told me NOTHING about TMJ dysfunction, or CranioMandibular dysfunction!! I had to check out all these facts for myself. I had never even heard of TMJ and it's problems until I did some research on the internet, and was able to draw some parralel with what my symptoms were, in comparison to the symptoms specified on some of the websites I visited.

    All said and done, my specialist only agreed that he was treating me for a TMJ dysfunction when I challenged him about it, and asked him point-blank. He told me that he was going to refer me onto a neurosurgeon, which I am still awaiting an appointment for. Since then, I have been referred onto a new specialist, in the same Oral MaxilloFacial field, who wants me to limit my mouth opening when I yawn, and to stop biting into hard foods, such as apples etc.

    He has also informed me that there are various therapies, such as Cranio, Accupuncture, Hypnotherapy (which I am NOT keen on), and heat treatment. Finally, if I do not respond to any of these, there is the possibility for injections to relieve the pain. As far as I am aware, these are cortisone injections.

    As far as an x-ray is concerned, I have only had one of these from my so called "specialist", which was before the wisdom teeth were removed. There have been no others since. Seeing as I am due to see the specialist again in three weeks time, I am going to ask about possible nerve damage again, to the Trigeminal nerve. Although he has conducted numerous tests in this area already, I want to make sure that this is not what is causing the pain.

    His predecessor did not think I had nerve damage.

    Now, I've been to the Chiropractor, who really only used basic techniques to try to alleviate my pain - wasn't really impressed, although this could be that I need to consult a more qualified therapist - my next step.

    My Chiropractor told me that he thinks I have Trigeminal nerve damage, and thinks I should go and see an Neurologist. Well, I'm still waiting for this.

    I've tried all the basic things already, and am already using Sensodyne toothpaste - I have been for some time now. The facial excercises I'm not too sure about at the moment - I really would like to know if anyone else has tried these, and if they have any long-lasting effects ??

    Many thanks for your posts - they are very much appreciated ! Please keep in touch.

    TMJ234

     
    Old 06-19-2002, 09:41 PM   #5
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    To TMJ234,
    Please post your experience with the neurologist, I too have the same problems, only I don't have but 1 tooth on my left side (I did get them pulled) I still have a great deal of pain, one dentist said I probably have Trigeminal Neuralgia, another told me because I can't wear my partial all the time, the pain comes from the bone where I'm only connecting with the one tooth on the lower teeth. I saw a Neurologist who really didn't do much except the usual, poke my mouth with a pointed stick, told me to stand on one leg and so on, he said he couldn't say I have Trigeminal Neuralgia, didn't even give me any medication. So here I am, still in pain, so I really would appreciate knowing how you make out. Thank you and Good Luck!!
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    Old 06-20-2002, 05:56 AM   #6
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    I'm now booked in to see the Neurologist for next Saturday. Since my last posting, I have found another Chiropractor, who is MUCH better than the one I saw before.

    This one is much friendlier, and has just taken 5 x-rays, of my spine, and skull. I am due to return there on Monday afternoon, to discuss the x-rays, and what that they can do for me.

    I'm also going to go to the dentist this afternoon, to see what he says about the pain coming from my teeth.

    I'll let you know how I get on with the Neurologist as soon as I know.

    Thanks,

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    Old 06-20-2002, 10:01 PM   #7
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    TMJ234 I'm so glad you found a Chiropractor that makes you feel like something is getting done. My girlfriend had hurt her back pretty bad recently, and her last experience with the chiro. was not good. I talked her into finding a new one. And I had to do some talking. Her back is still prone to going out on her but now she knows how to get it back in. After getting it put in place she found a really good refexologist. Soooo much more relaxing aft. treatment. I had this done when I was in severe pain, it does increase the circulation in the veins and nerves. Might be a way of helping you all over. We tend to hold stress in all areas of the body when we're in pain. Keep on searching and looking for your specific answers, everyone is a little diff. Be willing to try new avenues. Take care, Diana:

     
    Old 06-25-2002, 07:54 AM   #8
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    Hi TMJ234,
    What did you find out from the dentist about your teeth problem? I had 2 fillings done a week ago and on Sat when I woke up I had intense pain in them that I had never had before. I called the dentist today and I am waiting to hear back form her.

    Thanks,
    Becky

     
    Old 07-06-2002, 06:19 AM   #9
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    I had submitted a topic to this bulletin board this morning....It seems ridiculous...but it has worked for me --one soy shake a day --It is so, so nice to live without pain.....I just wanted to be normal.....It went a way and I realized I started having soy shakes but thought it was a coincidence but then it came back and I realized that I had stopped the soy shakes for two weeks.....started again and it went away....

    Worth a try....The soy shake powder can be bought in a vitamin/health store --You mix the powder with milk or juice. I like chocolate mixed with cranberry juice and a little ice in a blender. You can mix it straight with water --it isn't bad but not great... Also if you try soy and it helps your TMJ, I am curious to see if it works for others.... Good Luck-I hope it helps you too, Kerry

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    Old 07-06-2002, 09:43 AM   #10
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    Hi Becky,

    I thought I would tell you about my experience with nine fillings I had put in. Although they were supposedly so small to be harmless, my jaw has never been the same and my TMJD symptoms returned after I had one filling redone recently when I thought they were gone..

    In my case several teeth were shaved too much on one side and built "too high"(too much filling material on the bottom). I went through like 5 dentists had it refilled twice and shaved I don;t know how many times and it still doesn't feel like it did before the filling. I can' t say how dangerous these fillings can be to your jaw and whole mouth if not done right by quack dentists that don't care what long term pain they afflict you with. I have a little pain below right ear and facial pains on right side(bad side) which comes and goes. I got a tooth refilled a month ago in the hopes that all my jaw problems would go away. No such luck. And forget it, when I drink alchohol all nine teeth with the fillings ache. It takes like a good day for the pain to go away. I feel like I am caught in a vicious cycle. If I get one tooth adjusted it throws the others off. It will never end.

    Thank for the tip on the soy shakes. I will get some at the health food store and see if it helps.

    Also got referral from two friends to see 2 more dentists and see what they say.

     
    Old 07-14-2002, 10:57 PM   #11
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    Re: Teeth and ear problems with TMJ

    i had terrible ear problems, over 2 years with ent & 19 different anti-biotics for ear pain, swollen gums, teeth pain, facial pain & even pain all the way to my eye on that side. also refrain from chewing gum, that was a big irritant to mine, plus gritting my teeth. i didn't get any special treatment for the tmj, other than some pain pills, i just fought really hard to stop gritting my teeth & after all that trouble for over 2 years, the pain is now gone & my ear is fine & so are my teeth & gums.

     
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