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    Old 08-03-2019, 01:33 PM   #1
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    Dad has blood and clots in urine

    My Dad is 79 and has started having blood in his urine about a week and a half ago. He has gone to a doctor and the test showed he has urinary tract infection (UTI) and they gave him an oral antibiotic to take for 10 days and then an appointment to check the results. In the meantime, my Dad says that blood still appears, but also sometimes it starts out clear and then blood clots come out followed by lots of blood. It seems that wherever the leakage starts out is trying to heal, but the clot that blocks the blood isn't able to hold, and then the bleeding starts again.

    One thing I'm really concerned about is the fact that he's on a prescription blood thinner AND aspirin, which I keep hearing is no longer recommended as a blood thinner because the risk of bleeding outweighs the benefits, and yet they keep telling him to take it. This is now the second recent bleeding incident (the first was in his eye) he's had since taking both blood thinners at once.

    Has anyone here ever been taken off of blood thinners when bleeding events like this happen?

     
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    Old 08-04-2019, 10:12 AM   #2
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    Hi....I don't know if blood thinners would cause his issue unless he has something else going on in his bladder or urethra. Is he on any other medications?

    He should be referred to a urologist for proper testing, but in the meantime his doctor could do complete urine testing, sent him for a bladder ultrasound and do some bloodtesting for possible tumours.

    Please let us know how he is doing.

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    Old 08-06-2019, 12:31 PM   #3
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

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    Hi....I don't know if blood thinners would cause his issue unless he has something else going on in his bladder or urethra. Is he on any other medications?

    He should be referred to a urologist for proper testing, but in the meantime his doctor could do complete urine testing, sent him for a bladder ultrasound and do some bloodtesting for possible tumours.

    Please let us know how he is doing.

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    When he initially went to his doctor about this, he did get some sort of ultrasound and also a urine test that detected the bacterial infection which is why they put him on antibiotics. He's scheduled to go back to the doctor tomorrow afternoon for a follow-up.

    As for other medications, he's on a couple other things that I'm not sure what they're for. For being 79, he's not on very many things.

     
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    Old 08-07-2019, 10:42 AM   #4
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    Ok...yes on the bacterial infection, which can cause bleeding.
    I hope his infection is cleared...i still suggest further testing considering his age.

    Let us know the outcome.

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    Old 08-08-2019, 01:23 PM   #5
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

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    Ok...yes on the bacterial infection, which can cause bleeding.
    I hope his infection is cleared...i still suggest further testing considering his age.

    Let us know the outcome.

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    Well, he had his follow-up appointment yesterday, with strange results. His doctor now tells him that it would have been impossible for him to have been diagnosed before with UTI because it would have taken about 3 days to do the test to detect the bacteria they said they detected in his urine. So now the doctor is theorizing that it might have been a ruptured blood vessel in his prostate that caused the bleeding. This is strange since they gave him an antibiotic to take for 10 days. Either way the bleeding stopped about 5 days prior to yesterday's appointment, according to what my Dad told me.

    Furthermore, he said the doctor decided to take him off water pills, which are meant to remove excess water from the body. He's also saying he make take my Dad off the blood thinner as well, which was prescribed to him a couple years ago after he was found to have a heart flutter, which hasn't shown up during the past several ECGs. The doctor wants to have him wear a portable heart monitor for a couple days to monitor for it to see if it's returned. If it hasn't, the doctor will take him off the blood thinner.

     
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    Old 08-09-2019, 07:46 AM   #6
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    Dear StayFit42,

    All doctors can do is try things, esp. in a case like this one.

    Yes, blood thinners can causes those symptoms. I just wanted to share with you that to me it seems that the doctor reached a very plausible conclusion, esp. to stop the blood thinner and water pills and monitor him for awhile.
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    Stayfit, as long as your father trusts his doctor... follow his advice. You can always go see the doctor who prescribed the blood thinners, or have him checked by a cardiologist to get another opinion. He should also see a Urologist to make sure that there is no reason why a blood vessel ruptured; this isnt something that happens for no reason.

    I am glad that the bleeding stopped and he is feeling better.
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    Old 08-09-2019, 01:23 PM   #8
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    Thank you yayagirl and MSNik!
    My main confusion comes from how my Dad was tested and diagnosed with Urinary Tract Infection, and then gets prescribed an antibiotic to treat it, and then he's told by his own doctor that it would have been impossible for them to have been able to diagnose it as UTI. One of them was seriously mistaken.

     
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    Old 08-09-2019, 01:51 PM   #9
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    maybe your dad showed/felt symptoms before it could diagnosed, sort of like a cold incubates in your body for a few days before it shows symptoms.
    btw my mom had bleeding behind her eye a few times because of Plavix, finally the doctor agreed to let her stop it.

     
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    Old 08-10-2019, 01:14 PM   #10
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

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    maybe your dad showed/felt symptoms before it could diagnosed, sort of like a cold incubates in your body for a few days before it shows symptoms.
    The only symptoms he had when he went to the clinic was the blood in the urine. They had him take a urine test and immediately diagnosed him as having UTI and prescribed antibiotics at that time.

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    btw my mom had bleeding behind her eye a few times because of Plavix, finally the doctor agreed to let her stop it.
    My Dad had an eye bleed as well. I think he was using Warfarin at the time. Not sure though. He got switched over to Eliquis, but I'm uncertain whether the eye bleed was before or after. I think it was before. It looked really terrible. His eye was nothing but a dark red blob. He went to the emergency room for it, but they didn't really do anything for it. Eventually, it cleared up.

     
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    Old 08-12-2019, 07:22 AM   #11
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    StayFit....quick strip and visual can show bacteria, cloudiness and blood in urine...a quick strip will diagnose infection, but it won't diagnose what kind of infection unless it's cultured. The doctor should know that. If your dad had infection, being put on antibiotics is the right thing to do, and they would have been broad-spectrum.

    How is your dad doing now?

    I get broken blood vessels in my eyes sometimes....I'm not on blood thinners, but as we age, vessels do get more fragile. Has your dad seen an opthamologist since that happened?

    Is your dad seeing a heart specialist, and is a urologist on the list?
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    Old 08-12-2019, 01:05 PM   #12
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    StayFit....quick strip and visual can show bacteria, cloudiness and blood in urine...a quick strip will diagnose infection, but it won't diagnose what kind of infection unless it's cultured. The doctor should know that. If your dad had infection, being put on antibiotics is the right thing to do, and they would have been broad-spectrum.
    It's possible that they did that. I don't know the details since I wasn't at the appointment with him. I wanted to be, but he insists upon doing everything himself even though he either doesn't understand what the doctor tells him or doesn't remember. I've been at a few past appointments and have been able to help him understand and remember, but now he won't let me be there.

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    How is your dad doing now?
    He says his urine has been clear now. Thanks for asking!

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    I get broken blood vessels in my eyes sometimes....I'm not on blood thinners, but as we age, vessels do get more fragile. Has your dad seen an opthamologist since that happened?
    I've had that happen to me too a few times. It always looks worse than it feels, but mine was never anything like my Dad's.

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    Is your dad seeing a heart specialist, and is a urologist on the list?
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    He was seeing a cardiologist after being diagnosed with heart flutter. Long story short--He had a severe pain under his shoulder blade that wouldn't go away, so he went to Urgent Care and they tested him and found a heart flutter and sent him to the emergency room for more tests where he was prescribed a blood thinner. I know he's seen the cardiologist again a few times, mostly to transition from one blood thinner to another. Seeing a urologist is something he's only done recently as a result of having blood in the urine.

     
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    Old 08-12-2019, 01:53 PM   #13
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    you need to insist that he let you go with.....
    I go with my mom to her doctors, and she doesn't remember anything the doctor wants to do, regarding changing a med, making an appointment for a test, etc.

     
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    Old 08-13-2019, 11:40 AM   #14
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    Re: Dad has blood and clots in urine

    StayFit..

    Good to hear your dad is free of bladder symptoms. And yes, they would have done a quick-strip or even quick microscope visual.

    I think having your dad taken off blood thinners completely may be an issue, but in asking that....what supplements is he on as well? Sometimes taking blood thinning supplements, pqin meds, plus blood thinners can be a huge tipping point. I suggest another cardiologist for a second opinion, a complete list of foods, pain meds and supplements and a revamp of why he needs them.
    I also suggest you encourage your dad to have you with him at the appointments, not to take it over, but to have a list of pertinent questions, write down info, get test results, etc.

    Please keep us updated...
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    Old 08-13-2019, 01:25 PM   #15
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    StayFit..

    Good to hear your dad is free of bladder symptoms. And yes, they would have done a quick-strip or even quick microscope visual.

    I think having your dad taken off blood thinners completely may be an issue, but in asking that....what supplements is he on as well? Sometimes taking blood thinning supplements, pqin meds, plus blood thinners can be a huge tipping point. I suggest another cardiologist for a second opinion, a complete list of foods, pain meds and supplements and a revamp of why he needs them.
    The only supplements he's on is Turmeric, Saw Palmetto, Vitamin D and fish oil. The doctor already knows about these.

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    I also suggest you encourage your dad to have you with him at the appointments, not to take it over, but to have a list of pertinent questions, write down info, get test results, etc.

    Please keep us updated...
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    Since we don't live together, it's hard to make this happen. He's still independent, so I don't know how to convince him (again) that my being there is a useful thing. He's forgotten that I was useful to be there before.

     
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