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    Old 06-28-2006, 06:02 PM   #1
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    Fish oil long term usage

    Hi,
    My husband just told me that long term use of fish oil can cause kidney problems etc. Has anyone ever heard of any bad effects from taking fish oil long term? I've been taking it religiously for about 3 years now.
    thanks
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    Old 06-29-2006, 08:21 AM   #2
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    I've taken cod liver oil for many, many years and never had or heard of a problem. Personally, I ignore all the vitamin scare stories. As Paracelsus said, there is poison in everything, the difference between remedy and tragedy is in the dosage.

     
    Old 06-29-2006, 09:52 AM   #3
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Hi Jessicca,

    I tried to post a reply last night and the website returned an error on me.

    Fish oil can actually be beneficial for the kidney, especially for those who have recently had a kidney transplant. I've never heard that it can be bad for the kidneys, so I checked my books and could see nothing there either.

    If you (or your husband) are still concerned what benefit are you trying to get from fish oil? I'm sure you know the alternatives but otherwise perhaps we can suggest some.

    Well, take care.

    Best,
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    Old 07-08-2006, 09:56 PM   #4
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    I'm trying to obtain ALL of the benefits that fish oil supplies! Thanx for the info, and i'm gonna continue to take it. I've been taking it now for 3 years.

     
    Old 07-09-2006, 08:31 AM   #5
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    I've been taking fish oil for about 8 months now.

    Actually, recently I switched to a "Super-DHA" supplement because my primary focus is brain health (depression, anxiety and stuff). There's still some EPA, but it's weighted more towards DHA. 500mg of DHA and 100mg of EPA.

    The only thing I know of that could harmful is thinning the blood too much.

    If you're taking blood thinning medication or megadoses of vitamin e, or if you simply take way too much fish oil over a long period of time (I mean TONS of fish oil) it can lead to bleeding problems and the inability of the blood to clot.

    Moderation is the key to everything.

    There's alot of myths involved with alot of supplements.

     
    Old 08-01-2006, 04:52 PM   #6
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyPlague
    I've been taking fish oil for about 8 months now.

    Actually, recently I switched to a "Super-DHA" supplement because my primary focus is brain health (depression, anxiety and stuff). There's still some EPA, but it's weighted more towards DHA. 500mg of DHA and 100mg of EPA.

    The only thing I know of that could harmful is thinning the blood too much.

    If you're taking blood thinning medication or megadoses of vitamin e, or if you simply take way too much fish oil over a long period of time (I mean TONS of fish oil) it can lead to bleeding problems and the inability of the blood to clot.

    Moderation is the key to everything.

    There's alot of myths involved with alot of supplements.
    If you're taking fish oils for depression/anxiety the one to take they say is EPA heavy versions. There have been studies that have shown that mood disorder responds more to a higher EPA to DHA ratio. Omega Joy and Country Life Mood formula are two examples that have high EPA concentrations.

     
    Old 08-03-2006, 04:55 AM   #7
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

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    Originally Posted by Jessicca
    Hi,
    My husband just told me that long term use of fish oil can cause kidney problems etc. Has anyone ever heard of any bad effects from taking fish oil long term? I've been taking it religiously for about 3 years now.
    thanks
    Jess
    i read somewhere that if u take a lot of fishoil, uneed to take a lot of vitamin E also coz it prevents the oxidation of the oil or something? not sure if its tru or not

     
    Old 08-03-2006, 10:06 AM   #8
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jessicca
    Hi,
    My husband just told me that long term use of fish oil can cause kidney problems etc.
    As far it causing kidney problems i've never heard that one before (peta ??) If anything it should help them by lowering your blood pressure which will help the kidneys....
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    Old 08-31-2006, 10:37 AM   #9
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    i read somewhere that if u take a lot of fishoil, uneed to take a lot of vitamin E also coz it prevents the oxidation of the oil or something? not sure if its tru or not
    You are 100 % correct Allforlorn...Although fish oils are very healthy in many aspects of our body they are very unstable a can oxidize easily and become rancid. So taking about 50 i.u. per 1000mg of fish oil is a good safe amount.And if you really want to be on the safe side then take the Mixed Tocopherols (alpha,beta,delta and gamma) and not just Alpha Tocopherol........
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    Old 01-03-2007, 11:29 PM   #10
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MyPlague
    I've been taking fish oil for about 8 months now.

    Actually, recently I switched to a "Super-DHA" supplement because my primary focus is brain health (depression, anxiety and stuff). There's still some EPA, but it's weighted more towards DHA. 500mg of DHA and 100mg of EPA.

    The only thing I know of that could harmful is thinning the blood too much.

    If you're taking blood thinning medication or megadoses of vitamin e, or if you simply take way too much fish oil over a long period of time (I mean TONS of fish oil) it can lead to bleeding problems and the inability of the blood to clot.

    Moderation is the key to everything.

    There's alot of myths involved with alot of supplements.
    hi,
    may i know if you feel any difference from the high DHA and the high EPA?

     
    Old 01-04-2007, 11:14 AM   #11
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Can you explain in more detail how fish oil after consumption goes rancid? How does those fish dominant
    nations get away with daily fish consumption without
    taking extra vitamin E ?

     
    Old 01-04-2007, 02:23 PM   #12
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

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    Can you explain in more detail how fish oil after consumption goes rancid? How does those fish dominant
    nations get away with daily fish consumption without
    taking extra vitamin E ?
    Its because its a Longchain polyunsaturated fatty acid and these will be incorporated into the membranes and mitochondria where most of the free radicals/oxidation is produced and a natural process in the body (a theory of aging). The more stable oils are Saturated fats, Monounsaturated fats and short chain Polyunsaturated fats.

    On your second question...well no one knows for sure but they probably do not consume the total amount in fish that we consume in supplemental form. And secondly they eat lots of sea vegetables that are high in antioxidants and eat lots of soy products that are high in vitamin-E.....
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    Old 01-05-2007, 10:39 AM   #13
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Quote:
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    Its because its a Longchain polyunsaturated fatty acid and these will be incorporated into the membranes and mitochondria where most of the free radicals/oxidation is produced and a natural process in the body (a theory of aging). The more stable oils are Saturated fats, Monounsaturated fats and short chain Polyunsaturated fats.
    Maybe we are confusing two issues. Let me understand this correctly.

    I've read that < 5 iu of vitamin E added to fish oil helps
    prevent early spoilage of the oil.

    But assuming the oil is not spoiled and you consume it, the oil will spoil inside
    your body and go rancid unless you consume vitamin E .. which is what this
    thread implies.....

    ** or **

    If you consume fish oil, it contributes to oxidation
    which is related to the theory of aging and hence
    taking antioxidants like vitaman E or whatever
    helps offset the negative effects that fish oil brings to
    the party, but no neccessarily it goes rancid in your body
    after consumption?

    Last edited by thylantyr; 01-05-2007 at 10:42 AM.

     
    Old 01-05-2007, 11:35 AM   #14
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Both of your paragraphical quotes are correct. When exposed to heat,light and oxygen they will spoil easy so adding vitamin-E staves this off. Open a can of Salmon and let it sit on your counter for a day and you can see and smell the spoilage. Even flax is sold in dark containers and refridgerated as is non soft gel fish oil.(carlson's)

    The polyunsaturated fats of fish oils are the long chain 20/22 carbon...and although these long chains are great for a whole assortment of disease prevention perameters in the body they will eventually end up in the membranes and mitochondria combustion of cells and this is where they become oxidized easily without proper amounts of Vitamin-E. Take saturated or monunsaturated fats and these hold up better in the membranes and mitochondria's combustion effect......
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    Old 01-05-2007, 02:42 PM   #15
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    Re: Fish oil long term usage

    Do you specfically need to consume extra vitamin E
    or can you take a normal dose of vitamin E but take
    extra anti-oxidants like alpha lipoic acid, vitamin C, etc
    to achieve the same effect?

     
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