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Old 01-26-2006, 12:52 PM   #1
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What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

Did you ever consider it?

I have a friend who had RNY and lost 140 lbs in 15 months. She's happy, but has sagging skin. She did have issues where the physical adjustments due to the replumbing made her feel like she would die, but no complications that I know of.

I know others who chose the LapBand, which I considered. It's the only nearly safe procedure, but I held off because it's still surgery and the reduced calorie and certain off limit foods, plus PBing weren't for me.

I then convinced myself to try yet another diet (#10+ in my lifetime). I was inspired by The Biggest Loser, but trying their program, I gained wieght. Still, I was inspired that I could eat, exercise and not have ill effects or such sagging skin.

After 2 years of documenting my intake and activity in ******, I came to realize what diet worked and made me feel best (low carb as I've talked about in another thread).

I still have a way to go, but I wondered what thoughts others have had regarding WLS.

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Old 01-26-2006, 01:09 PM   #2
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I've given it some thought only because I also know 3 people close to me who had it done and their results are incredible. Ultimately though, surgery is not for me. They were in alot of pain after it was done and one of them did say she would never do it again even if she gained her weight back. The other 2 have had it done a second time after the first one stopped working.

So considering the my low tolerance of pain and the loose skin issue, which would probably cause you to need another surgery, I decided against it.

 
Old 01-26-2006, 01:58 PM   #3
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I heard the "lap-ban" surgery was the best and safe....but most insurance's don't cover it? and I think its just a same day procdure..but very very expensive?I had a girlfriend*not romaticly friend just a friend that was bout 120lbs over weight that had the lap-ban and she's now a cool 130lbs her looks are totally different and she looks real good..to bad I have another g/f..it took about 15 months for her...and she never exercise a lot either...she just ate til she was full and and it was only couple bite of this and that...but she did have to chew her food up more before she swollowed...and after the surgery she had to watch what she was eatting..I guess just soft or pulverized foods?
If I had the money lap-ban would get my interests.

 
Old 01-27-2006, 06:53 AM   #4
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I think it's a horrible idea.

Mangling the body to deal with a bad habit seems all wrong to me. Like sewing the mouths of smokers shut, or cutting off the thumbs of thumb-sucking children or nose removal for nose-pickers.

Or a wife who nags and nags having her vocal chords removed!

Behavioral modification through surgery... sounds bonkers.

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Old 01-28-2006, 01:05 PM   #5
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I think RNY is good for those who are in food addiction cycles they can't break and are so overweight they may die (like 400lbs). But for someone 300 and under, I would advise against it.

I think the lapband is decent because it has so few complications (and eventually you eat a normal low carb diet), but it is surgery.

As for having surgery to deal with a bad habit, sometimes the habit is so far gone that a person needs the surgery to act as a behavioral modifier, like a food police.

But I think you have to be a) an overeater and b) unable to choose wisely to need this.

When I realized I could eat as I needed and not live on low cal the rest of my life, I decided surgery was wrong for me. (I am overweight due to metabolic meltdown, not overeating).

 
Old 01-28-2006, 01:28 PM   #6
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

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I think it's a horrible idea.

Mangling the body to deal with a bad habit seems all wrong to me. Like sewing the mouths of smokers shut, or cutting off the thumbs of thumb-sucking children or nose removal for nose-pickers.

Or a wife who nags and nags having her vocal chords removed!

Behavioral modification through surgery... sounds bonkers.
I agree 100%.

I know someone that had it done. They lost some weight, but they look so unhealthy now. If they eat too much they have to go to the bathroom to puke. Behavioral modification is the way to go.

 
Old 01-28-2006, 01:29 PM   #7
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

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I think it's a horrible idea.

Mangling the body to deal with a bad habit seems all wrong to me. Like sewing the mouths of smokers shut, or cutting off the thumbs of thumb-sucking children or nose removal for nose-pickers.

Or a wife who nags and nags having her vocal chords removed!

Behavioral modification through surgery... sounds bonkers.
humm,
seems like a pretty good idea to me having a wifes vocal chords removed, sepcially a wife that nags and nags/...oh honey...honey come here....lol

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Old 01-29-2006, 01:03 AM   #8
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I think the requirment is that you have to be at least 100 lbs over your normal weight and life threating for the surgcial....which would be my last straw.
the lap-ban is same day I think? and the requirment is not as strick.
I'm not sure?

 
Old 01-29-2006, 04:53 AM   #9
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I researched it. Lap Band can be done same day and with it you need a BMI over 40, though they make some accomodations. Plus people sometimes go outside the US to get it, resulting in less stringent rules. And with both you need co-morbidities, which can be as simple as skin irritations (due to skin rolls) or snoring (sleep apnea).

 
Old 01-29-2006, 08:53 AM   #10
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

[QUOTE=JerseyGirl36]I think RNY is good for those who are in food addiction cycles they can't break and are so overweight they may die (like 400lbs).QUOTE]


if you're so addicted to food that you eat yourself that fat, changing the size of your stomach will not change those habits. there are plenty of people who get gastric bypass and blow their staples or continue to be obese because they refuse to change their eating habits. in order for the weight loss surgery to be effective and safe, you have to change your diet anyway. why not save yourself the money, and subsequent surgeries to rid yourself of ugly excess skin, and just eat healthy to begin with?

 
Old 01-29-2006, 11:05 AM   #11
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I can't speak for anyone eles, and certainly don't mean to be of offence and blunt to anyone.
but with some people if they had an overweight problem most of there life and trying (100's) of diets, being in that yoyo sysdrome diets was just to hard for them to lose the weight....(for what ever reasons.)

if a person has exsusted all means of weight loss and tried most every program (diets & exercise) mentally & emotionally on the market and no results(I don't like to call it as failed)..anyway there Dr recommeds surgery...maybe thats the only way to go for a morbid obese corpulent individual? in other words darling sometimes dieting is not the soulation.

MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT OVER WEIGHT OR SAY 15-20 LBS OVER WEIGHT DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, SO TO ME UNLESS YOU BEEN IN THERE SHOES, ITS NOT WISE TO SAY "JUST CHANGE YOUR EATTING HABBITS", AND JUST EAT HEALTHY TO BEGIN WITH"....> IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

Actually I'am not that much over weight , but for the nice people that are sometimes surgcial sergery is there last option.....I'm aginst gastric by-pass...but I understand the lapband is pretty simple?... its just they tie a subtance?(band) around the middle of the stomach...kinda making it look like an hour glass so the food passes through keeping the first half (the top) full and the food is slowly drain through to the bottom half..making you feel full constantly...if the band breaks or comes undone..its pretty simple to go back to the Dr and have it retied...its not life threating.
however the gastric by -pass is more prone to be more complicated.

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Old 01-29-2006, 04:00 PM   #12
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I agree 100 % Chevyman. MOST people who get the weight loss surgery have to go through psychiatric evaluation and have to work on changing their eating habits before having the surgery.

 
Old 02-01-2006, 12:46 PM   #13
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I personaly feel it is great thing if you are like me and your body is totaly fallin aprart and there nothing else left to try

 
Old 02-01-2006, 10:16 PM   #14
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

My co-worker had the lap band last April - not sure how much weight she has taken off... 4Olbs or so.

It has been pretty good for her w/ minimal complications. The most common one is obstruction if she eats too fast and dosen't chew her food long enough. Sometimes she is in pain because of that. She does have to burp frequently when eating, but does not have dumping syndrome that coincides w/ the other surgery. She does need to take longer to eat, and for the most part trys to watch her carb / fat intake.

I have asked her how does she deal w/ the urges to eat when stressed or other issues which causes her to over eat, and she has found ways to manipulate it. She has found she can eat as much icecream as she likes w/ out a problem, but when she does the cookie dough she is in pain.

The band is not a tie - it is a band that is filled w/ saline, and it is around the stomach. When it is filled it tightens around the stomach, making the opening smaller. The band has a port that is in the abdominal wall, this is where the physician can inject saline or remove saline to tighten or loosen the band.

She has had to go back twice for "fills" the 1st was a normal post op recheck, the 2nd was for a fill, because she was still eating too much. She is needing/wanting to go back again because she said she is eating too much and gained a couple of pounds.

She had this surgery in Mexico and paid $10,000 for it - all the f/u for included in that price, and she if VERY PLEASED w/ this choice and going to mexico. She said the doctor and nurses are very compitent and would do it again.

Compaired to the RNY this is a better safer surgery. Except fo the possiblity of obstruction.

She does not look sickly as I have seen people who have the RNY, and she does not feel malnourished, or fatigued.

As far as the comment by some posters to just eat healthier...etc it is not that simple; if it was obesiety would not be an epidemic. Yes I agree many have made poor choices and continue to do so, but a lot of this is usually maladaption to life stressors. Some people smoke, some drink, others gamble, or have sex, some find other constructive addictions like exercising, weightlifting, reading... - and some eat.

For people who overeat due to depression or stress...etc, it is very much like a drug addict or alocholic, or anyone else that has an addiction to something. When they eat, or certain foods are consumed it brings on a false sense of wellbeing, and helps to mask/numb ones problems, just the same as an alocholic or drug addict.

It is a very hard decision for one to choose to have this surgery. The poster who said they have been on a diet 10 x's in their life I had to laugh, and think "thats all?" LOL - my whole life has been about that.

I have learned it is not a "diet" I need to be concerned with, but to change my life style, and to find the "root" cause of my "symptoms" the overeating and weight gain is just a symptom of something much deeper than self discipline. I still hav enot found that root, and am still learning to change my behavior.

Be careful how you think and judge people because of how they choose to respond to life stressors; your addiciton, or maladaption might not be as obvious as an over eater.

Also rememer not all overweight people are there by choice - there are many who have a medical condition that prevents them from getting the exercise needed, or they body just dosen't respond as well as others.

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Old 02-02-2006, 09:04 AM   #15
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Re: What are your thoughts on Weight Loss Surgery?

I've looked at the WL surgeries, and if a person has so many medical problems due to obesity, that WLS will help them remove the complications more quickly than regular diet and exercise, then I think the option to do this must never be taken away.

Addiction.... think about it. Cocaine, heroin, nicotine, food. Sesame Street. Which of these things is not like the others? Answer: Food. Why? Because it's the ONLY addiction that exists where you must consume some food in order to live. You don't need the substances from other addictions to exist. Your body can't live without some food.

Body modification is not something to be taken lightly, but it should be allowed as a recourse for people who need to get the weight off quickly due to existing medical conditions.

I understand that in order to be allowed to have WLS, you must document at least 2 years if not more of what diets you have participated in and how much you lost and gained back. I think there is also a psychological evaluation to make sure the person can handle the changes that will come with WLS.

I'm making my final attempt at diet and exercise to lose my excess weight. The 40 pounds I've lost in the last 9 months is only about 30% of what I need to lose. I have at least another 100 pounds to go, and this is the longest that I've been able to stick with a diet/exercise regimen. I'm hoping I will be able to continue with the new habits that I've learned. If I can, great! If not, WLS should be an option, no matter what.

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