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    Old 05-24-2007, 09:43 PM   #46
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    Re: Bacterial Vaginosis. Please read. In dire need of help.

    Ladies,
    Stop these treatments! I am convinced that using these creams and Diflucan are what caused me to have problems in the first place. These treatments do not KILL the yeast completely, they just cause it to mutate and become stronger and more resistant. Yeast thrive on sugar. Cutting back on sugar and alcohol will help you. Stress causes high blood sugar. Reducing stress will also help immensely. Also, yeast can not grow in an acidic environment. The beneficial bacteria that are usually present in our vaginal tracts are acid-producing. Thier presence keeps yeast to a minimum. These beneficial bacteria are destroyed by antibiotic use, stress, and yeast infection treatments. You can replace the bacteria by supplementing with probiotics(the refrigerated high-quality variety, or yogurt). You can also recreate the acidic environment that should be present in your vagina by using boric acid suppositories. I know they seem scary, but trust me, I was having issues for 8 months and I am feeling so much better. I usually do one, once a week. I have been doing well for months now. Soon, I think I will stop the boric acid suppositories and see how it goes on my own. There is light at the end of the tunnel ladies, and I hope all of us get better.

     
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    Old 05-25-2007, 05:13 AM   #47
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    Re: Bacterial Vaginosis. Please read. In dire need of help.

    Duse, I agree- I am so mad that I took a diflucan on monday and I don't even have yeast-And Duse you are right about the stress- I was so stressed about this I was making myself worse. I read so much junk on the internet about all these crazy things and I started to have symptoms! The mind is a powerful thing- it can mess you up! When the doc said "I see yeast" I almost fainted- I did so many YI treatments yeast should be miles from me... And by her telling me that she saw yeast only stressed me out more and made my symptoms worse. Yesterday when I got my results and they said no yeast- I swear it was like a rebirth-but At first my stress levels went thru the roof- I was so confused! The dr sees yeast- but it's not yeast- I was crying my eyes out sitting on the phone with the receptionist asking her "What is wrong with me???" then after I calmed down- and thought- hey- this is good news- it's not glabrata- it's not tropicalis- it's not something that is going to require strong medication. And I swear once I calmed down- my symptoms subsided. Don't get me wrong- I still have burning but I swear it's not as bad- I think I was making it worse with the stress. I was CONSUMED with my vagina so much that for the last month I could think of nothing else. I'm sure my work suffered. (I can't wait to see all the mistakes that will be coming back to haunt me soon...) Ebon you have got to get your cultures sent out to a lab for testing! What if you don't have yeast? What if you are allergic to the creams and it's making your symptoms worse? I know it's ridiculous but have you changed soaps and detergents to the unscented? Also I have always bleached my towels and wash rags but since this started I began bleaching all my underwear (Yes they're all ruined now- faded greens, blues and pinks, etc...) well I stopped bleaching my undies because that could have been the problem too- bleach around my crotch all day? I also started taking all kinds of supplements when this started- probifidus (refrigerated only) AZO yeast, flax oil and cinnammon, (I have an herb book that says cinnammon is good for getting rid of yeast that is resistant to diflucan) - I've decided to stop taking it all for a week- yes I know all of this stuff is good for you- but maybe I am taking too much- overkill- I had my sugar tested- it was 130- it's a little high- other then that it brings me back to the ovule- and all of the creams- and the diflucan- and the stress- and the mind. Ebon- I urge you to have cultures done. My dr doesn't have a lab at her office either but she sent them out for testing- I don't understand why the doc you saw yesterday can't do that. You need to have someone do that! I would even go to the ER if I had to. Ebon - what area of the country do you live in? if there's any chance you're near me I can recommend a dr for you. (Northeast)

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    Old 05-25-2007, 09:29 AM   #48
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    Re: Bacterial Vaginosis. Please read. In dire need of help.

    Jupe, great news you dont have yeast. Maybe you had it in the beginning of all of this, but it is gone now. It sounds like the creams you used irritated you inside enough to leave you with the burning. I think eventually it will go away and you will go back to normal. I can totally relate to you. I was obsessed with my vagina as well. Literally I would think of it the first thing when I woke up in the morning and it was not off my mind even for a minute throughout the day. I was pretty stupid and when I got that first YI I did a one day treatment, a 7 day treatment, and 2 diflucan!! I thought I was ensuring that the yeast would not come back, but really I just messed myself up and was left with a burning vagina for 8 months. I am still not totally normal, but I am getting there and it helps that I dont stress about it as much. Cutting back on the sugar and carbs helps alot too, plus I have lost some weight, which is always a plus.. Good luck to you. keep us informed.

     
    Old 05-25-2007, 01:15 PM   #49
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    Duse, have you been cultured for yeast? You know for sure that's what you've been dealing with for the past 8 months? Jupe. I know that I have yeast because it wasn't done by visual diagnosis. They saw it in my discharge through wet prep. Its just a matter of finding out what type it is if I can't get rid of it. They Gynazole is a one day treatment that treats all types of Candida. Not just the albicans variety. As my doctor said, "It is the king of yeast medications." Although I think my yeast was just caused by the flagyl because while the Diflucan has not cured my symptoms it seems to have helped. My doctor even told me that Diflucan doesn't always get the job done. That it only clears about 60-70% of yeast infections. And 80-95% of yeast is caused by Candida Albicans. So, Diflucan really isn't that good of a drug in the first place. I'm going to try not to worry too much about this yeast thing. Its always at the back of my mind. But I'm going to do my best to keep it there. I've already been extremely depressed and stressed the past couple of days. I spent a good portion of yesterday sobbing, and I noticed that the more I sobbed the more twinges I felt "down there." Stress is a major factor in this.

     
    Old 05-25-2007, 02:03 PM   #50
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    OMG - when I read the posts from you guys I feel so lucky that my issue seems so minor and insignificant. The fact is I've only had this BV twice now and the second time I've managed to clear it up with three doses of the Rephresh followed by inserting two Acidophyllous capsules at night for three nights. I'm back to normal now. I do however feel your pain because when I was in my 20's I suffered from constant discomfort and odor which was not BV but my doctor told me was yeast. I had signs of yeast but every treatment I took only worked for a short time and then bam it was back. My partner at the time was VERY promiscuous (I found out later) and I was constantly on something or another for the whole time we were together - 8 years in all. Once we broke up I switched doctors - went to a female doc who could relate to the way I was feeling - she tested me for chlamydia and it came out positive. I was treated with some strong antibiotic (can't remember the name) and I've never had another one since then - until the BV recently - which if you saw another post that I made in another thread - came at the time my partner was unfaithful with someone who apparently had it too. My point is that we are so vulnerable to these things and our partners habits are so important to our health. They don't realize. I'm not saying that your partners are being unfaithful but they may be reinfecting you over and over and that may explain why these things keep recurring. Just a thought.

     
    Old 05-25-2007, 05:01 PM   #51
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    there are a lot of docs out there who think men don't get these things- they may not have symptoms- but they give it to us and we do! Ebon- my dr also visually diagnosed my discharge as yeast and it came back negative. I don't know what it is- but it's not yeast. Duse- it sounds like exactly what I did! a 1 day a 3 day and 3 diflucan! and now a 4th because my dr "saw yeast". My doctor called me this morning to apologize for the yeast thing and she said to me that she is very against the 1 day treatments- she said they do more harm then good AND she also told me to try something. Since I've been tested for every possible vaginal ailment and all have come back negative- next step is to test for allergic reaction to something- she said tonight before I go to bed- take a benadryl- if the symptoms clear up- I know I'm having an allergic reaction to something! pretty neat huh?

     
    Old 05-25-2007, 05:07 PM   #52
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    Would you mind asking your doctor what she thinks of Gynazole before I take it??? Its a one dose but its a seven day treatment. I wonder if she would categorize it as a one day though.

     
    Old 05-29-2007, 04:54 AM   #53
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    ebon, sorry I was away for the holiday- did you use the treatment? I rode a bike on sunday and wow- was that a mistake- my crotch hurt all day. I wonder what is going on down there.

     
    Old 05-29-2007, 09:24 AM   #54
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    Yeah, I used it. And I'm pretty sure my body rejected it. I had a copious amount of discharge that was just like water coming out. It was as if my vagina was self-irrigating. This didn't happen the first time I used it. So, I'm pretty sure the yeast infection is still there. I still have 4 days of Flagyl left plus I just started my period 2 days ago so I can't see the doctor about it...If I can't take the gynazol I don't know how I'm going to get rid of this yeast infection...I'm thinking that it just irritated where I had my cervical biopsies done and once they heal I won't have that reaction again.

     
    Old 05-30-2007, 12:15 AM   #55
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    Re: Bacterial Vaginosis. Please read. In dire need of help.

    I have had BV once, but my doctor told me that it wouldn't come back, and it hasn't. She had told me it is an infection that wasn't an STD. I hope that things go better for you!!! Good luck!
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    Re: Bacterial Vaginosis. Please read. In dire need of help.

    Hi All

    I'm new here, obviously. My problems started back in Mid-March when I got what I thought was a YI and treated it as such. Of course, it never went away and just got worse. I had never even heard of BV before and never even thought to ask about it. So, I went on for about 3 weeks treating it as a YI with no luck. Then, I started to research this and found out a lot about BV and the treatments. So, I called my DR and he prescribed me Cleosin (sp?) and that didn't work. So, I called back and my dr then gave me MetroGel. This works like a charm - as long as I'm on it long term. Of course, being on MetroGel long time gives me a YI - so it's a constant cycle. I'm on my period right now - and as soon as I'm done I'll plan on taking another dose of MetroGel. My Dr. called me in 6 refills of the stuff and said to use it on a 5 Night treatment and then stop. If I even suspect that it's coming back, use the MetroGel again for 1 night and try to erradicate it that way...

    Of course as I read all these posts I get a little discouraged because I see how long you've all dealt with this and it scares me. I'm moving to Massachusetts in August and I won't have health insurance. I'm really hoping this goes away before then... I dont' know what to do!!!

    I will say that coming here has already been a big help and now I know I'm not alone. I hope these posts continue as I want to hear if any of you are able to be cured!

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    Old 05-30-2007, 09:09 AM   #57
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    How did you manage that miracle? It didn't come back at all?? That's great. Can I ask what treatment you used?

     
    Old 05-30-2007, 09:04 PM   #58
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    Hey girls, this is all very interesting, and i find myself agreeing 100% with the idea that these meds are screwing us down there like crazy! Interesting note: Diflucan always seems to help if i only take one dose, although it only helps for a couple of days. However if i use more i get disastrous results and my crotch is a complete mess after. Also, just to compare notes, my crotch has never burned in all this time i've had a yeast infection. Maybe the burning sensations some of you are experiencing really are a result of the aftershocks of medications. Also, I would like to mention that yes, i have done the boric acid treatment, and it is really not as bad as i've heard mentioned. it offered relief the first days, but unfortunately, the effect would wear off fairly quickly, and i would become non-responsive with the subsequent suppositories. Very strange eh??? I could swear the yeast develops a resistance fairly quickly to whatever i throw at it, and once it does it comes back with a VENGEANCE! Nastier than ever, as if its gotten mad! To Sharon, i never got feedback from the cultures done over the years, but a specialist saw me once and confirmed it was yeast. Nowadays i am too scared to try any kind of meds for that, and so i am trying to kick it the natural way, of course i've got to start getting more sleep and lowering my stress! Anyway, i think its really good we're comparing notes because i see a lot of similarities happening here between us, mainly the overmedicating phenomena (which i am convinced is a fact) and the link between our obsessive psyches making our symptoms worse! Like i've said before, i think a break from all these meds is the best solution until the vagina falls back into its natural state, and then you can see what's really going on.

     
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    Yeah, I used it. And I'm pretty sure my body rejected it. I had a copious amount of discharge that was just like water coming out. It was as if my vagina was self-irrigating. This didn't happen the first time I used it. So, I'm pretty sure the yeast infection is still there. I still have 4 days of Flagyl left plus I just started my period 2 days ago so I can't see the doctor about it...If I can't take the gynazol I don't know how I'm going to get rid of this yeast infection...I'm thinking that it just irritated where I had my cervical biopsies done and once they heal I won't have that reaction again.
    Ebon, just a remark. I've had biopsies done on my cervix also for pre-cancerous cells caused by that virus HPV, i think. My YI started around the same time that virus manifested itself on my cervix. I wonder if there could be a link? It started with my boyfriend at the time saying i tasted slightly funny, although i had no yeast symptoms at the time, but i went to my gyno anyways who visually diagnosed my with YI. I'm wondering if that was the beginning of the end, taking Terazol when i actually didn't need it. Cause i had no YI symptoms when my bf mentioned that to me, so maybe it was actually pre-cancerous cells causing me to taste different??? Something for me to wonder about i guess. Jeez....

     
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    Maria333~ I would like to add, that I too, have had reoccuring YI, with NO burning at all, AND I have been tested twice for HPV cancerous cells,maybe there is a connection? My crotch (since I have left it alone, not taking anything lately,just drinking alot of water) has been alright.But as most of us woman,I am a paranoid person about "that area". Just thought maybe SOMEWHERE along all these posts,there is a connection.

     
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