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[QUOTE=flowergirl2day;2975841]Hello,

A new drug has just been added to my BP meds. I am told Valsartan is in the ARB group. :eek:

I did not have to pay for my first batch of pills, so there's no drug sheet. I have several concerns, the main one being possible interactions with the other meds in the different groups that I am on. Also, what possible side effects of this medication to watch for.

I would appreciate any information about this drug, including personal experiences with it.
Reducing the dose of Labetalol has resulted in my breathing a little better. It has also caused my BP to get too high. That's why the new drug.

Thank you!
Flowergirl

Yes it'a an ARB drug like Cozaar and Atacand. I tried both Cozaar 50 mg and Atacand 8mg and couldn't stand it for more than few days. I had many bad side effects (dizziness, tireness, weak legs, being breathless and more). Those side effects happened after 24 hours of the first dose and it didn' go away. On the other hand, my father tried both and he had NO SIDE EFFECTS at all :confused: . As we said before, we react differently to the same drug. some people had higher blood pressure readings while they are no Cozaar :eek:.

I tried all the drug classes and none worked without side effects except for CCB, I'm on Diltiazem SR 240 mg and I'm happy with it :).
The bottom line is that you have to try it and see what side effects you will get, maybe you will get no side effects at all. If it didnt lower your blood pressure then why you would take it?

I think we have to be smart and educated about those drugs, at many times you may be on 3 drugs and one of them is working for you while the others are not working at all. Doctors MAY know that and who will be the winner? the drug companies :(.

hope this helps,
Michael
You can go to any pharmacy & ask for a package insert (information sheet) for Diovan even if you haven't bought the the drug from them. My drug book says it works best on an empty stomach. Side effects: headaches,cough, diarrhea,nausea, joint aches are the most frequent. Blood potassium may increase so make sure you get your lab tests done. If you are taking any supplement containing potassium,check with your Dr. This drug is in the same class as Cozaar so if you get wrist pain, call the Dr. right away. Cozaar is the drug that damaged my knees. Wrist pain was my first symptom that the Dr. dismissed as arthritis which I didn't have a history of. Takes about 2 wks to reduce b/p with the max effect in 4 wks. Let me know if you can't get the pkg insert cause I think I have one in my files. Glad your breathing is better. Do you have asthma? Fam
Hi, :)

thanks for your post!

[QUOTE]I had many bad side effects (dizziness, tireness, weak legs, being breathless and more). Those side effects happened after 24 hours of the first dose and it didn' go away.

I already have a smorgassboard of side effects from my meds, including all of the above. They aren't going away, either! I guess with this new drug they can only get worse. Unless I get a brand new side effect, it might be impossible to tell how it's affecting me. My BP meds now consist of one from each of the main classes of drugs with the exception of vasodilators and central acting agents. :dizzy: You'd think my BP should be perfect!

My SOB was getting so bad I could hardly stand it anymore and complained endlessly. That's what prompted the doc to cut back on Labetalol. I am surprised that ARBs caused you breathlessness! If it turns out to be the case with me and my SOB gets really bad again, we'll have to find an alternative.

It's surprising to hear that Cozaar and similar drugs might cause a rise in BP - certainly NOT a very desirable trait!

Flowergirl
[QUOTE]Blood potassium may increase so make sure you get your lab tests done. If you are taking any supplement containing potassium,check with your Dr. This drug is in the same class as Cozaar so if you get wrist pain, call the Dr. right away.

fam and violet, :)

thanks for your replies, info and warnings.

The potassium issue might be a problem, as I am on Spironolactone (potassium-sparing), and Ramipril (potassium-building). Don't need any more potassium. My last test showed I was still within the high end of a normal range. I don't want to get paranoid about my potassium levels. I do get regular blood work done, but it's just the basics, potassium, lipids, kidney and liver function. I feel I should be having more tests, but don't know which ones to ask for.
I will obtain the info sheet from my friendly pharmacist :) -thanks for the idea!

Your warnings about the possible potassium buildup and wrist/knee pain similar to arthrits are much appreciated. How terrible for you to get permanent damage from a drug that's supposed to help you! And how scary for those of us that experience side effects. I seem to be getting most of the side effects of my drugs. I suppose I have no tolerance for the pharmaceuticals.

I have no history of asthma and never had any problems with my breathing.
My shortness of breath developed gradually over the last few months.
The beta blockers I am on are known to cause SOB and constricted airways in some people; alpha blockers can cause congestion. I had both. On top of that, the other BP meds (especially CCBs) interact with beta blockers and increase their effect.

Flowergirl
Thought I better mention some of the symptoms of potassium overload called hyperkalemia. K is the chemical symbol for potassium. First there is a slow pulse which progresses to a rapid pulse so take note of your regular pulse now. N & vomiting may occur as well as abdominal cramping. Decreased urine output. You may get some tingling & weakness. I know it is really hard dealing with all this but you have to have faith that a solution will be found. I found it helpful to write in a journal(just an old notebook). Putting my thoughts down on paper seemed to get my brain in gear to find a solution when the Dr's were telling me it was hopeless. And have some fun. I found that I got so wrapped up in doom & gloom from my Dr's mainly that I wasn't doing anything that I enjoy. I started just watching some funny TV shows & happy stuff since I was very weak & in severe pain from the thyroiditis at first & couldn't get out & walk or anything. Once my thyroid was under control, I got outside to walk until Cozaar prevented that. I made sure I listened to my favorite music too. Fam
I'll look back on my notes for Cozaar for skin problems. I've gotten hives & a very ugly thick rash from another beta blocker. You have been on my mind so much concerning your headaches etc. I want to ask you some questions about lebetalol too. But I have to go & clean up my kitchen. Get back to you later tonight. Hang in there.
Fam
[QUOTE=famnd;2987640]I'll look back on my notes for Cozaar for skin problems. I've gotten hives & a very ugly thick rash from another beta blocker. You have been on my mind so much concerning your headaches etc. I want to ask you some questions about lebetalol too. But I have to go & clean up my kitchen. Get back to you later tonight. Hang in there.
Fam

Fam,

Am so very glad that you take notes. It's amazing how helpful those entries can be!!!! And I remember you mentioned journaling, too. Again, very very helpful for those of us who no longer remember what "normal" should be.

Bsheba
I finally found my notes re:cozaar. No skin problems but I did have a headache on the right side of my head on Day 3 but no notation the following 10 days that I took the drug. Didn't your headache start before this new drug? When did the headache start?

Lebatalol questions: when are you taking this med? with meals? You probably know that lebetalol should be taken with about the same amount of food each time to increase the amount of drug that is used by the body (this is called bioavailibility). I try & make sure I have about the same amount of fat with each meal since fat slows digestion so may help with more of the drug being absorbed. Also if it gets into the circulation slowly then it won't be as likely to cause you to get short of breath.

When you get short of breath, do your fingers & around your mouth get numb? Did the Dr. do a oxgen satuation test (involves putting a monitor gadget on your finger). Does anything help with the headache? When I got the Norvasc headaches it was so painful & nothing helped. I rarely get headaches luckily. Fam
[QUOTE=famnd;2990271]I finally found my notes re:cozaar. No skin problems but I did have a headache on the right side of my head on Day 3 but no notation the following 10 days that I took the drug. Didn't your headache start before this new drug? When did the headache start?

My headache started the day after I was put on a new medication. It is listed as a possible side effect of Valsartan on one of the popular websites. I do not have a drug sheet. I forgot to go to the pharmacy and get one.


[QUOTE]Lebatalol questions: when are you taking this med? with meals? You probably know that lebetalol should be taken with about the same amount of food each time to increase the amount of drug that is used by the body (this is called bioavailibility). I try & make sure I have about the same amount of fat with each meal since fat slows digestion so may help with more of the drug being absorbed. Also if it gets into the circulation slowly then it won't be as likely to cause you to get short of breath.

I take Labetalol after my breakfast (usually oatmeal) with Omega3 fish oil capsules and some of my supplements and all of my rx pills, and in the evenings after dinner with my Lipitor and a few supplements,including fish oil again. I figure the fish oil will help the digestion of the pills (fat is also needed for CoQ10).

[QUOTE]When you get short of breath, do your fingers & around your mouth get numb? Did the Dr. do a oxgen satuation test (involves putting a monitor gadget on your finger). Does anything help with the headache? When I got the Norvasc headaches it was so painful & nothing helped. I rarely get headaches luckily. Fam

No, I don't get the numbness but my lungs hurt when I try to breathe more deeply while experiencing my SOB. I am on Valsartan now because the doctor is trying to find out if Labetalol is responsible for my SOB. He said if there is no improvement, he'll send me to a pulmonologist. My nasal congestion dissapeared rightaway after cutting back on Labetalol. I can breathe better now as I can breathe through my nose also. I still have the SOB. I still feel sick to my stomach when I try to do things around the house and have to stop frequently. Same thing when I walk. In general, it's better now. In order to be able to function normally, I'll have to discontinue Labetalol completely. I think I should have the other doctor check me out, just to be sure everything is OK in my lungs and respiratory passageways. I'll have to discuss it with my GP.

I have an enlarged left ventricle but the cardiologist says the shortness of breath is not from that. So I guess something else must be causing it.

Nothing helps with my headaches. I am sitting here with an icy compress on the back of my head. Helps a little, temporarily. The neurologist told me to go for walks (???) and use hot and cold compresses. I do get some relief when walking. He also said he'd be happy to see me about the headache another time (and help me how? more pills?).
I read that rash is a side effect of Valsartan (I now have it on both legs) but it's pale and not itchy so I can put up with that. It's the sores I was scared to death of but don't have any new ones so far. Better that than not being able to breathe (if I went back on a full dose of Labetalol).

Thank you for checking your drug sheets for me, Fam. I appreciate it.


Flowergirl
That's good that you are going to get an app. wtih a Pul. Doc. He will do a oxygen satuation test right away. In fact his nurse will do it before you see him. Headache is listed for Cozaar but it doesn't give any details. I couldn't find my pkg insert for Diovan but both drugs are in the same class so there are probably similar side effects. Did I understand that you get nausea when you are walking or moving around? Oh, I wanted to tell you that the super specialist I saw said I had damage to my optic nerve whereas the opthalmalogist said I didn't. I see him once a year. I do have some left ven. enlargement to my heart but no symptoms. There are so many twists & turns in this journey to get one's b/p under control. Seeing that super b/p specialist was the turning point for me but it did involve a lot of pain & stress because he was so harsh. Fam
[QUOTE] Did I understand that you get nausea when you are walking or moving around? [QUOTE]Oh, I wanted to tell you that the super specialist I saw said I had damage to my optic nerve whereas the opthalmalogist said I didn't. I see him once a year. I do have some left ven. enlargement to my heart but no symptoms. There are so many twists & turns in this journey to get one's b/p under control. Seeing that super b/p specialist was the turning point for me but it did involve a lot of pain & stress because he was so harsh. Fam

Hello, :)

I am sorry I missed your post and did not reallize it until just now! Fam, I was able to find out from the pharmacist yesterday that 8% of patients taking Diovan experience transitional headaches. This info was not listed on the drug sheet he had just given me, he had to look it up in the computer. He also pointed out that my headache does not seem to fall into the transitional category and could be due to my high BP, rather than a reaction to Diovan. Thank you for checking your Cozaar sheet for me! It is much appreciated.

I just came back from my second walk today. Did not take my BP meds until 2:30 today.(That's when I remembered to take them.) I took my first dose of 160mg Diovan. About ten minutes into my walk I had shortness of breath so severe I not only had to stop (which is what I normally do), but I found I could not move my legs at all! That was very scary, as it had never happened to me before. I think my brain was so deprived of oxygen it was not sending the right messages out. So I stood rooted to the spot for a few moments. When I was finally able to lift my feet high enough off the ground to take a step, they felt as if someone had tied fifty pound weights to them. I experienced extreme fatigue and SOB for the remainder of my walk.

Given my allergic reaction to 80mg and now 160mg I am determined not to take Diovan anymore in any amount. I just checked my drug sheet and trouble breathing is listed as a serious and UNLIKELY( yeah, right!) allergic reaction. One is supposed to seek immediate medical attention if that happens.

I usually get nausea with my SOB but did not this evening during my walk at all. My stomach hurt with each breath. Go figure.
Fam,the opthalmologist assured me I did not have glaucoma, that my optical nerves were good. I am seeing an eye specialist on June 9 (her office called while I was out walking tonight). I hope she will come to the same conclusion. As far as I know I have a couple of narrowed vessels in each eye.

What kind of a specialist is your super specialist? I have several but would like just one who can really help me and find out what's causing my resistant BP and get it under control. It does what it wants.

Thanks for your post! I enjoy reading all of yours,Beth's,Judy's and everyone else's posts on this board. They are so informative!


Flowergirl :)