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You talking about EMSAM? I've heard good things about it. MAOI always were pretty effective, they were just dangerous with the dietary restrictions and all. With EMSAM though there are no dietary restrictions up to a certain dosage.
[QUOTE=AxXiom;2966445]I've been on it for 2 weeks with very good results.
I am using it for atypical type depression. My worst symptoms are anhedonia, low motivation and lethergy.

It really started working noticably after about a week.
I am on the 6mg 24 hr patch. I am sleeping ok. The last couple of days I have had a little trouble with sleep. Mostly restlessness.

I feel more outgoing and energetic with a little irritability. Sex drive is improved.

Side effects are few and nothing like SSRI's. No sleepiness!

Best of luck to you!
AxXiom


wowow--sounds awsome!!! now that quiet_storm mentioned it's EMSAM, i've heard about it before. i just didn't know it worked so well. i'm very impressed...and with very few side effects???? that is great news!!!!!!! will DEFINITELY ask my pdoc about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks so much!!!
Emsam rocks. I've been on it for over a month now. The lowest dose patch is basically drug and food interaction free. NO sexual side effects, NO weight gain, NO trouble sleeping. Side effects were always my biggest problem with other meds. I love the HAPPY PATCH :)
[QUOTE=PattiChati;2973391]You said there was sweating with all SSRI;s. I am taking Lamictal and sweat so much it is making sick and crabby, however even though I am not bipolar AT ALL, it is helping with the depression. BUt we are just starting summer and already I am miserable and we live in Michigan. Is there a separate board for Lamictal?

Emsam is not an SSRI, its an MAOI.
[QUOTE=quiet storm;2973414]Emsam is not an SSRI, its an MAOI.

I know Emsam is not an ssri, I was asking about Lamictal causing sweating!!
hi jason,

yes, the last pdoc i saw (actually the very first one i saw in my entire life when i started looking for help)--and i just happened to go to him for a refill for one med. since my current p-doc was ill at the time, knew about it, and he actually mentioned emsam to me. i told him i'm not doing too well at this point in time with the effexor that i'm currently taking, and asked his opinion about what he'd do if i were still his patient and if i were to see him on a regular basis. that's when he told me about the emsam. apparently he has quite a few people on it already. he is a very conservative psychiatrist. he does not just prescribe medications for the heck of it. i remember he would just give me .25 mg. of klonopin for my anxiety, as opposed to the pdoc who was willing to dish out 1mg. 3x a day, no questions asked. i truly believe that psychiatrists have to keep up with the news about different medications that become available out there. after all, that is what they are there to do--prescribe meds. but, i also agree with some of you when you say that some docs aren't very aware of the new meds, or of their side effects. unfortunately this particular pdoc, that i like so much, does not take my insurance, so i had to pay out of pocket ($200) to see him for 1/2 hour, and to get a refill...but i did get that info about the emsam from him. fortunately, he was the one who initially got me out of the dark abyss, and i'll always be grateful and trusting of him. in any case, i know he'll always be there, if i get into complete despair again....
Thank you for the reply Dakota... would you care to update your experience with the Emsam once you have begun treatment?
I have been on the 6mg/24hr EMSAM patch for almost a month now.

Bear in mind that I quit a 20+ year smoking habit and also stimulants for ADD that I have been taking for about 12 years straight.

My biggest issue right now is low motivation. My mood is pretty good and my brain actually feels alert. Emsam is not interfereing with my sleep at all and I feel rested when I awaken.

It seems like I have had a couple of 'surges' of feeling great on EMSAM but it is not consistantly there yet. I have an appt with pdoc next week to discuss maybe increasing the dosage or augmenting EMSAM.

This med is promising for me even though I am not quite where I want to be yet-I have had nothing but positive effects and no side effects. I'm going to give it every chance to work.

I do feel lost without a stimulant, like I said, my motivation is poor.

I will keep you all updated if you like.
Oh-also, I felt really good at the end of last week but it is coming up on PMS time for me and I always feel worse then.

AxXiom
Thanx for your input Axxiom... have you tried any other antidepressants before to compare them to Emsam? And like you said the low motivation is likely from being off the stimulants and not from emsam itself... good that your having success with it... I just hope they market it here in australia :S
Hello,
I quit stims and started EMSAM the next day.
I have been on Emsam 1 month today and I will see my Dr. in 4 days to assess.

I probably should try going up to the 9mg if I have had any benefit from the 6mg don't you think?

My mood is good, anxiety is little to none, sociability much improved. I just need a kick in the rear to get myself moving! I sleep 10-11 hrs each night which sans amphetamines is normal for me, unfortunately.

I'll post after I see my Dr. about any changes.

Thanks!
AXxIOM
[QUOTE=AxXiom;2996405]Hello,
I quit stims and started EMSAM the next day.
I have been on Emsam 1 month today and I will see my Dr. in 4 days to assess.

I probably should try going up to the 9mg if I have had any benefit from the 6mg don't you think?

My mood is good, anxiety is little to none, sociability much improved. I just need a kick in the rear to get myself moving! I sleep 10-11 hrs each night which sans amphetamines is normal for me, unfortunately.

I'll post after I see my Dr. about any changes.

Thanks!
AXxIOM
Hi. I'm a newbie on this site and came here in search of people who have experience with Emsam. I'm 53, and have been depressed to one degree or another since I was 11 years old (puberty).

I always thought I was just a melancholic person, until I went to the therapist with my husband and it all came out that I was suffering from depression also. That was about 17 years ago. I went through years of talk therapy, group therapy, and have been seeing the same psychiatrist for most of this time. He jokingly said I could be the "poster child" for the doctors' conventions because I'm so hard to "treat". The most any med (and there were MANY) did was to just take the "edge" off, and not always that much.

Recently, he said I'm TOO depressed, and had me go off Paxil and Lamictal before starting the Emsam. I *think it's helping but am not real sure yet. The same day I went to a Dermatologist who prescribed Doxepin. I didn't read the material, but began to feel very weak, then checked into it and found out the cause. Denying myself foods is not a problem for me; however, I've a history of taking more meds than prescribed if the prescribed dose doesn't kick in.

I just read somewhere that Doxepin and Emsam together can possibly be fatal. Does anyone know? I guess it's not something to play around with.

Oh, btw, I'm diagnosed with Dysthymia (mood dis-order), and the moods come over like a thunder cloud. I'm sad a lot, feel hopeless, helpless, and a lot like a failure. These are issues that I've lived with all my life. I don't know what it is to be *normal.

Another quick question. (But I'll have more as time goes on) Does Paxil and/or Lamictal put an end to sex?

Thank you for letting me join the group. I hope to become well acquainted with everyone, and maybe even be able to help someone by sharing some of my experiences.

nightangel
Hi Nightangel,
How long have you been on the patch?

It has been a month and a few days for me on 6mg and the last few day it has been getting better for me everyday. None of the SSRI type meds were very good for me. Paxil is famous for wiping out your sex drive. Emsam has had practically NO side effects. My mood is better than it's been in a very long time.

My Dr. did add a medicine called Namenda today. It is a med for Alzhiemers disease but I am taking it off-label for ADD. I started it today and I am very optimistic about it.

I bet EMSAM will help you. Be patient-I feel like I am just now really feeling the anti-depressant effects of it.

I don't know about Doxepin-I would call first thing in the morning and ask your Dr. about it.

Good Luck!
AxXiom
[QUOTE=AxXiom;3004047]Hi Nightangel,
How long have you been on the patch?

It has been a month and a few days for me on 6mg and the last few day it has been getting better for me everyday. None of the SSRI type meds were very good for me. Paxil is famous for wiping out your sex drive. Emsam has had practically NO side effects. My mood is better than it's been in a very long time.

My Dr. did add a medicine called Namenda today. It is a med for Alzhiemers disease but I am taking it off-label for ADD. I started it today and I am very optimistic about it.

I bet EMSAM will help you. Be patient-I feel like I am just now really feeling the anti-depressant effects of it.

I don't know about Doxepin-I would call first thing in the morning and ask your Dr. about it.

Good Luck!
AxXiom
Hi AxXiom, I've been on the patch about a month now, and I think I'm coming "out of the fog". As I said, I don't know what it is to feel "normal", and, in most people's lives there are problems. So how do you separate "depression" from disappointment and worry over real life events that you can't change? With the stigma attached to depression and such, I used to want to claim I was just one of the "worried well", but I know that's not true because I don't handle stress the way other people do. I've always been weak emotionally, and not able to stand up to much.

Just as an "aside", I was born to alcoholic parents, shortly after adopted, but I've met many sisters and we all suffer from anxiety and depression. I think it's due to the alcoholism in our family. I also forgot to report that I take Xanax for anxiety, and have for about 17 years except for a short time when they tried me on Klonepin because of my propensity to over-use Xanax.

There's a lot to tell...everybody has a story.

Does anyone know if Emsam helps people to deal with everyday life and problems in a better way? I just want to feel normal and be able to roll with the punches, because ya know they're gonna come.

As far as the Doxepin, even after reading that I shouldn't mix it, I did last night because of the Sedative effect of Doxepin, but I didn't feel well today, and also sweated profusely. I work in a Bakery, but no one else felt the heat like I did, or perspired as much. Wonder if it was a result of Emsam or Doxepin, or the mixture?

I want to find time to get around to all the threads that interest me, particularly about sex. We used to be very active and the last three years it's gone down-hill. (He suffers from depression and physical pain). But it makes me feel rejected and, well, you know, just over the hill I guess.

If anyone can tell me of a thread that is particularly interesting, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

nightangel
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Magenta"][/FONT][QUOTE=Dakota_Skye;2974566]hi jason,

yes, the last pdoc i saw (actually the very first one i saw in my entire life when i started looking for help)--and i just happened to go to him for a refill for one med. since my current p-doc was ill at the time, knew about it, and he actually mentioned emsam to me. i told him i'm not doing too well at this point in time with the effexor that i'm currently taking, and asked his opinion about what he'd do if i were still his patient and if i were to see him on a regular basis. that's when he told me about the emsam. apparently he has quite a few people on it already. he is a very conservative psychiatrist. he does not just prescribe medications for the heck of it. i remember he would just give me .25 mg. of klonopin for my anxiety, as opposed to the pdoc who was willing to dish out 1mg. 3x a day, no questions asked. i truly believe that psychiatrists have to keep up with the news about different medications that become available out there. after all, that is what they are there to do--prescribe meds. but, i also agree with some of you when you say that some docs aren't very aware of the new meds, or of their side effects. unfortunately this particular pdoc, that i like so much, does not take my insurance, so i had to pay out of pocket ($200) to see him for 1/2 hour, and to get a refill...but i did get that info about the emsam from him. fortunately, he was the one who initially got me out of the dark abyss, and i'll always be grateful and trusting of him. in any case, i know he'll always be there, if i get into complete despair again....

Hi Dakota, I was thinking that perhaps this wonderful Dr. could refer you to someone who takes your insurance and who doesn't just dispense meds willy/nilly. At times, I've liked that about my Doc, as when I'm desperate, I'll "drug seek". He's real compassionate, but tends to forget that I've mis-used meds before, and I can twist him around my finger and get what I want (mostly Xanax). I stick with him because of his compassion and willingness to talk as long as I need. He's been wonderful when I've been in despair, and never turned me away. Sorry for the diversion, but back to my point, maybe the Doc you like can refer you to someone who will take your insurance, or work out something with you. Sometimes our insurance opens up for change and we've changed at times just to get Drs. we want, as both of us have a myriad of mental and physical health problems. Good luck.

nightangel
[QUOTE=PattiChati;2973639]I know Emsam is not an ssri, I was asking about Lamictal causing sweating!!

I think I may have started with the question about sweating. It IS possible that it has nothing to do with psychiatric drugs, as I am 54, somewhere in Menopause, and take Prempro. The Prempro was given when I was trying to get relief from sweating, but in general, I think it helps me in other ways, but nothing seems to have helped with the sweating. Even though I perspire profusely, I still have problems with fluid retention in my legs. I don't know if this is caused by a med, or simply long hours on my feet. I might add that I'm over-weight, and gained about 15 lbs. after taking Doxepin (which was given to me for a skin condition). **WARNING** For me, when I mess around with Doxepin, I seem to have thoughts of dispair, and, while not seriously considering suicide, I feel that if I just died, it'd be better than the misery.
In my life, I've used dangerous doses of meds, just to not feel the pain, and one almost successful attempt at suicide. I don't re-call which meds I was on when this happened. Then, at times, it will come as a quickly fleeting thought, like, "Why don't you just run into a telephone pole?" I don't "hear voices", it's just an inner thought, that I have NOT acted upon.

Every day is a fight, just to keep my head above water. So many things hurt and disappoint, and there's the everyday struggles of life.

***Attention Moderators***I'm venting, but if I'm out of line, please let me know. Sometimes I get so lonely and there's no one to talk to, so I let it out with people that I feel are going through similar. But I don't want my negativity to cause anyone who may be going through something to act on any ideation I put out there. I'm sincere, I hope you know that; that's why I'm asking, and if you don't post this, I'll understand, as it is particularly a "down" moment in my life.

nightangel
I asked my Dr. about emsam last month and he wanted to try another anti-depressant first, not sure why the reluctance but it's getting tiresome looking for the "right" medication. I have a friend who started emsam months ago and it's been like a miracle for him. Just wanted to say thanks for sharing the info and experiences, please keep us posted!!