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I know exactly how you feel. Hydrocodone was drug of choice also. I was totally powerless to this drug! It is very very addicting! I am now taking Suboxone for maintenance and have found that it is the only thing that has kept me from using. I have tried tapering,coldturkey,Methadone and rehab and the cravings got me every time. The longest I have ever made it was 1 month. I know thats not very good, I have so much appreciation for those who made it. I hope someday I can be off of everything but the Suboxone makes me feel very clearheaded and the person I used to be. I have no cravings at all and can live a normal life. There are lot of ways to stop, you just have to find the one that suits you. I hope that you can find a treatment plan and stick with it, its the best thing you can do for yourself. Have you ever tried stopping before? And have you tried NA meetings?
Everyday - Don't do the rapid detox - not only are you really, really sick afterwards, but you can actually die during the procedure. It's dangerous and there are risks associated with it. I was like you, taking over 20 lortab 10's per day. You have several options - obviously, tapering - which is just about impossible when you are up to the level you are taking. Bottom line is, if we could control the amount of pills we take each day, we would. So, tapering is an option, but it is EXTREMELY difficult, however - it can be done. Second option is cold turkey - you'll be sick for about a week and then you will slowly start to feel better. The third option is you can go see your doctor, come clean with him and they can prescribe something called clonodine (it's a blood pressure med) that can help you during the withdrawal process. It makes you pretty sleepy but it helps w/the leg pain, chills, and other symptoms. However, it doesn't completely take away all of the symptoms... but it does help, no doubt about it.

Now, let me say that when I realized, like you, that I was either going to kill myself with these drugs because of my high use, or I needed help. However, I had tried everything also and could not stay clean, no matter what. I am also on Suboxone and it has absolutely changed my life. The way it works is this, it IS an opiate, but you do not get a high from it but it attaches to some receptors in your brain telling your brain that you do not want/need pain pills. I have had several offered to me on several occasions and have had no problems saying no. This drug HAS been a miracle for me and has saved my life. If you find that no matter what you do, that you absolutely cannot stay clean no matter what, don't feel hopeless because there are additional options for you. Oh, to answer your question, yes, Sub is physically addicting whereas when you stop, you will have withdrawals. You have to taper down and then stop but I still have read many, many stories where the withdrawals aren't as bad as hydros, but they do last longer since it's a longer lasting opiate. However, everyone is different and some people manage with few wd symptoms when they stop Sub. It's used for two things. Either you can take it for a few weeks to help with the wds from hydrocodone and then stop - this way, you won't be on it long enough to have withdrawals from it OR you can take it for a year or two or however long you think you need it. It basically has helped me learn how to live my life sober again. I have my life in order, am making responsible decisions and have changed my life for the better, even better than before I was addicted.

Now, User - I have enjoyed reading your posts but I do have to tell you that many people would be DEAD without the assistance of Suboxone. Why do you think they have had methadone clinics for years? There are addicts in this world that no matter what you do, they cannot get a handle on their addictions so please, although I would not want someone who's trying to quit for the first FEW times to go straight to Sub, I would highly recommend it for someone who cannot get off of drugs. There are many people who literally become suicidal from these pills since they know they cannot stop them after many, many attempts. I'm trying to ensure that THESE people know that there is help and that they don't have to feel so hopeless. Because I almost killed myself before I found Suboxone because I could not stand to lose my kids - which would have eventually have happened. In addition, I would have lost my job and everything else.

My use of Suboxone is NOT to hold off withdrawals, it's to help me not use hydros and end up killing myself. I don't have cravings and I screwed up my life so badly, I'm getting things back together. Just so you know, I'm a single mother of three young children and just about lost everything I had. I did, in fact have to file bankruptcy and lost my house as well. I also lost my mother to an accidental overdose of hydros. Do you think if Sub was around 8 years ago - that maybe she would be 'maintaining her LIFE'? Maintenance means just that - having control over your addiction with the assistance of medication that cannot be abused. In addition, although there are withdrawals from this, who cares? For someone like me that plans to be on Sub for a long time, then who cares that I will have to feel badly for a few weeks or even months. To me, it is worth every single second that I spend seeing the world clearer again and actually taking care of my kids. I'm a VP at a bank and literally almost lost everything and no matter what - I could not STOP! So, please don't 'cringe' when you see the word Suboxone as it can be and has been a life saver. I only wish it was around to save my own mother's life. Any other questions your might have about Suboxone, please let me know. Again, the majority of people that I know from the boards that take Suboxone take it to NOT abuse meds, not because they are scared of withdrawals. I could handle the withdrawals - the hardest part for me was once they were all gone and I felt good again, well, STRAIGHT back to drugs!
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User, Have you ever been on Suboxone? I dont think it fair to knock something you have never tried. For some, (being myself) I tried staying sober more times than I can or want remember, so to me this drug has worked wonders, and I dont think its very fair for you to knock me down for doing everything in my power to stay alive. Ive tried ALL other ways known to man to try and knock this monkey off my back and now have finally found something that works. And no I dont think Im proloning my addiction, you have not walked in my shoes you have no idea the hell I have been through, so unless you can offer me a better plan for living my life better than I am right now I think Ill stay on the Suboxone. At least I feel normal and healthier than i have felt in years. I am treating this awful disease that I have with medication, which is what I would be doing if I had any other disease!I am very proud that you could do it with out the help of medication, but there are some of us that just cant, period.

Kimbee, I expected a reply like this, however, the point I was trying to make is that I see a lot of people here thinking that this new opiate suboxone is the cure to all addiction. I know it was designed for herion addicts as an alternative to methadone, due to meth's excruciating withdrawal. The drug is new, and everything isn't yet known. Hydrocodone withdrawal is different from heroin, as the half life is much shorter. I don't know your situation, and I am not judging you in any way. I am only replying to someone whose situation is just like mine. This board has been helpful to me, however, I see a lot of fear here on the part of some who want to quit hydrocodone, and I want these people to know that it is possible to quit, and it will not be as bad as they think. I have read numerous accounts of people, both here and elsewhere, who have gone the sub route, and have ended up as bad or worse than they were before. If I can encourage someone, anyone, to just quit, and give them hope that they can do it, and it isn't going to kill them, and they will only be uncomfortable for a short period of time, then I will be happy. Someone else here did that for me, and I am glad they did. There is a tremendous amount of sympathy in this forum, thankfully, but I would like to add an element of tough truth to it.
ive tried every method of quitting opiates also but i do need them for chronic back pain...im on 60mg of methadone...thers pros and cons to everything and just do your homework and make a good plan...plan it like a vacation...it would be good to didsapear for a few days,maybe get a motel room so your tossin and turnin,diahrea,insommnia wont be affecting anyone...you will need support system...a/a and n/a are good for ythat..you have a life long disease now and cant go back to opiates unless its under a drs care....chef
hey, i did rapid detox in 99 to get off methadone...did it in maryland dr lance gooberman, he was awesome...anyway...they put me to sleep for 6 hours and when i woke up i did feel like i got hit by a train, but after the 2nd day, i was up and moving alot more than after 3wweks of cold turkey, thats for sure, it cost $6000 for me then, and id do it again in a minute!