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eventually you have to deal with your addiction issue....you can be usin 30-40mg daily or 500 like i was...i met a guy at my bupenorphine clinic 5 years ago that was swallowing 150 percocetts a day.....i have been on opiates,vikes,oxy's,hydrocodone,heroin,ect. for 14 years....my habit went from feelin good one three a day to i need to take 30 today....id plan out how many pills i have,how many do i get fron the doc,how many can i buy from my other sources....addiction consumes you...i lost my 50,000 year job as executive chef cause of my addiction...wife divorced me,lost my 300,000 home....addiction is a disease...i go to a/a and n/a mtgs every week for the rest of my life....addiction is with me for the rest of my life...in a year from now if im not careful it is cunning,baffling and quite powerful.....i dont think you are that stage yet but there are two/three types of maintance drugs...im on methadone right now...but i have back pain issues...at four a day habit you need to quit,pay the piper cause you will have w/d's...any/all opiates have w/d's...itll take ya about three weeks to be back to normal...sleep can take a month to two to be back to where youll be comfortable...opiates rob you of normal sleep patterns....you have to go thru w/d's,zero relapsin and stay away from any future usin of opiates....chef
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eventually you have to deal with your addiction issue....you can be usin 30-40mg daily or 500 like i was...i met a guy at my bupenorphine clinic 5 years ago that was swallowing 150 percocetts a day.....i have been on opiates,vikes,oxy's,hydrocodone,heroin,ect. for 14 years....my habit went from feelin good one three a day to i need to take 30 today....id plan out how many pills i have,how many do i get fron the doc,how many can i buy from my other sources....addiction consumes you...i lost my 50,000 year job as executive chef cause of my addiction...wife divorced me,lost my 300,000 home....addiction is a disease...i go to a/a and n/a mtgs every week for the rest of my life....addiction is with me for the rest of my life...in a year from now if im not careful it is cunning,baffling and quite powerful.....i dont think you are that stage yet but there are two/three types of maintance drugs...im on methadone right now...but i have back pain issues...at four a day habit you need to quit,pay the piper cause you will have w/d's...any/all opiates have w/d's...itll take ya about three weeks to be back to normal...sleep can take a month to two to be back to where youll be comfortable...opiates rob you of normal sleep patterns....you have to go thru w/d's,zero relapsin and stay away from any future usin of opiates....chef


I am sorry but I think that telling her that she is going to feel terrible for 3-4 weeks is not good. Everyone is different. And the truth is chef is not everyone takes as much as you did, in fact most people don't. What works for you and somebody else is not the same for others. AA and na are not for everyone and not everyone who has abused painkillers has some mysterious underlying issue that needs meetings and psychotherapy. The truth is that some people get addicted for a variety of reasons. I am glad that you found a way out, but that way out is simply not for everyone and wd's at this level should not take 3-4 weeks to get past, I think that is a generalization. I am on day two and don't really feel that bad (although I don't feel great) and my dosage was at the same level as this.

We need to be careful what we say to others. The wd's are not fun but I harldy doubt that she is going to feel really that bad much beyond five days.

Ryan'sdad
some folks can take medication for pain w.out feeling that euphoria that i you and i felt....my dr. calls them "earth people"....my brain got hot wired into opiate xanadeu just like your is...we have a genetic fault with the fact that our bodies crave for substitute endorphin cause it is so much better than our natural ones that our bodies produce...the addiction part comes in where we cant tell the diifernce between right and wrong and what the consequences of our behaviour is going to take us...we need the drugs or we think we arnt happy or content...we take the medication cause we tell ourselves it is ok to have that behavior...on monday ryans dad will go looking for that endorphin rush cause he has to perform at work....i thought that same wayin my career...i thought when i was intoxicated from the meds that i was the best chef in fla.....it was all in my head...this disease is progressive...it starts with a couple pills a day for as long time...someone who takes 4-5 pills a daty is just as much an addict as someone who takes 20 a day...our bodies are different as far as tolerances go and how much medication we need to take but in the end the 5 pill a day user is at the same road block as a 15 pill a day user....they have the same w/d symptoms....we cant run or hide from that.....the insommnia,flu feelings,diahrea,ect....does go away gradually and slowly as our brains begin to heal,our receptors begin to feel the natural endorphins that our body stopped producing when we were abusing....people really dont start feeling normal till a long time after theyre clean....when i say long time i mean a day to 2 months....back in 1984 when i detoxed off of methadone the wrong way,which it seems everone does,i didnt sleep for 14 days stait,not a second..try that if you want to go crazy.....when i didnt have any pills back around 1992-3 and my habit was 5 a day,i didnt feel alright until a month or two later....its a critical time because of relapsin,ect.....thats why the a/a or n/a is there.....people need to be edified about this disease,not ignorant....we need to help folks who are entrappped in something that we are learning from ourselves..cause we are there too....its a life long illness...when i wake up when im 64 birthday,ill thank the lord for a beautiful day and pray he sees me thru it sober..........chef
hay ryansdad i to dont think that this is a disease, its behavior.penn and teller do a show on cable called bulls*** thay looked up the stats on a/a and found by a/a,s own statstics that recovery rate is about 5% after one year.also the stats on recovery without aa is also about 5% so imo what works works ,be it religously though aa or pure old self determimation and will power.right now i take 30 mg of methadone aday no more no less and its a life test everyday . yes i whent to aa ,i belive if you need support and fellowship go to aa or sos .i have my famliy and friends for that and i,m blessed. just my 2 cents .