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Hi Yinsky. I have made a point of finding out as much about sub as I can but the problem is I can't write as good as I could if I could just talk. Sub is very new and they don't know a whole lot about it. It efects people in difrent ways and it is one of the few drugs that the patient realy has to set the dose for. Sub has a half life of 37 hours. This is why it can be taken evry other day or even evry 2 or 3 days be some people. Other than Spark, I don't know any one who could taper off the sub. I have read hundreds of stories on a difrent board. What the majority ended up doing was going as low on the sub as they could and then switching back to hydro or morphine and then finishing the taper or detox like that. The only way I know it can be done faster is for a detox only and they use the sub for 2 to 4 weeks before a person gets depending on it. I know it works good for a lot of people but I had a terible time with it and had nervusnes and depresion and nausea all the time. It was terible and it didn't help my pain very much at all. I don't know if this helps you any but I wanted to add what I know. I think it's a life saver for some but I am scared about what is going to be found out about it after people are on it for a while.
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Hi Yinsky. I have made a point of finding out as much about sub as I can but the problem is I can't write as good as I could if I could just talk. Sub is very new and they don't know a whole lot about it. It efects people in difrent ways and it is one of the few drugs that the patient realy has to set the dose for. Sub has a half life of 37 hours. This is why it can be taken evry other day or even evry 2 or 3 days be some people. Other than Spark, I don't know any one who could taper off the sub. I have read hundreds of stories on a difrent board. What the majority ended up doing was going as low on the sub as they could and then switching back to hydro or morphine and then finishing the taper or detox like that. The only way I know it can be done faster is for a detox only and they use the sub for 2 to 4 weeks before a person gets depending on it. I know it works good for a lot of people but I had a terible time with it and had nervusnes and depresion and nausea all the time. It was terible and it didn't help my pain very much at all. I don't know if this helps you any but I wanted to add what I know. I think it's a life saver for some but I am scared about what is going to be found out about it after people are on it for a while.

Thank you Root for taking the time to post this. And thanks for the info on the half life of sub. I had read your posts earlier and knew you had been having a difficult time and so didnt know if I could ask you a question directly. You really did have a very difficult time coming off the sub - I know. Are you totally off now..........? How are you feeling? I knew you were looking into other methods of pain control - how is this going?
What you have said above are my thoughts too. Sub appears to be so new and still in the experimental phase. My gut feeling is that people should be very wary of starting on it - unless they are so sure that they have no other option? Just my own personal feelings. I do believe that the pharmas and doctors are happy enough to use human guinea pigs! Wrong - in my view - but that's life? However - it would appear to be a God send for those who continually relapse and who desperately need help for chronic relapse. I know Banker speaks so highly of it - it has allowed her to continue working and looking after her family without the continuous anxieties of relapse. And for people who are looking for maintenance it does seem like a great "cure". The problems seem to really be about withdrawal. I cannot imagine how anyone would wish to go from hydros to sub and then have to return to hydros to successfully quit? Crazy?? I wonder is it really much different in action to methadone........... what are the advantages of sub over methadone? I think I have heard that methadone is much more effective for pain control too?
Anyway - its good to see lots of people pitching in here with their views and experiences...........
Thanks, Root........ hope your own situation is improving and that you are feeling better?
Y