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Thanks for the response etoile,
I guess you are right...I should probably call my doctor's office and find out if what I'm feeling is normal or if it could be indicative of another problem (let's hope not!!). I'll see how it is over the weekend and maybe give them a call on Monday.
To answer your question, I'm not on any medications at all. I actually haven't been on any through this whole process except a few days after surgery on Percocet. I took no pre-op medications to control pain or anything. I was going to try to take no pain medication at all after surgery (I guess I was trying to be a "tough girl"), but that didn't last long! When I first woke up in recovery, they asked me if I wanted meds. and I said no. I called them back over about 5 minutes later and took them up on the offer of morphine and that seemed to be the wonder-drug. I was feeling GREAT after that! Are you on any medications now?
It sounds like you are pretty much pain-free now! That's wonderful. So many people I talked to before the surgery tried to talk me out of it and told me never to let anyone touch your spine. But, I'm happy with my decision--it seems like it was the right decision for so many people and I look forward to a few months down the road, being back to normal and completely pain-free! I'm not quite pain-free yet as I told you in my last post, but I think I'll be there eventually.
I did watch Bush's speech last night--what a scary time our country is going through. It sounds like war is inevitable at this point, which scares me. I have been trying to avoid the news lately b/c it's all depressing news. I like to stay educated about what's going on, but it's getting to the point that it's too depressing to watch!
I'm ashamed to admit that I like some of the reality TV shows... American Idol and Survivor are my favorites, so I look forward to those nights of television!
Well, anyway, thanks again for writing back and the advice. Keep up the good work with your recovery.
Tra,

I'm so glad to hear that you continue to do well. Regarding the potty situation - was it ddp who recommended a stool softener? Great idea. You asked about elimination after surgery, which is a very appropriate question. Pain meds, the percocet, and if you were given morphine during or right after surgery will make you extremely constipated. Your first bowel mvmnt. might be difficult and painful, because of all the meds. The stool softener will help a lot.

Also, my bladder didn't work too well for at least 2 wks. after surgery. I was told that again, the pain meds had sort of put it to sleep, so it was hard to pee. Is that what you're feeling? Drink lots of water and tea, which will clear out your system. Someone here also suggested cranberry juice, which is an excellent remedy.

Just be a queen right now, Tra. Let everyone take care of you, and don't do anything you absolutely don't want to. Back surgery is a very delicate matter, and these first few days of healing are critical for your long term recovery. Sounds like you've got some good support at home - you're a lucky girl. Maybe someday you'll be able to return the favor to Chad. If not, at least his help now will get you on your feet faster.

Take care, and keep getting better! Best wishes, dianne
Hey everyone, I am 25 years old from NY and this month is my 8th month post-op. I had a severe bulged disc at my L5-S1 that was pressing on my spinal canal, I had a Lumbar laminectomy discektomy on 9/26/02. I wish I knew about this post sooner, I think it's great that you are all supporting each other and helping each other thru this. It also makes me feel a little bit better knowing that I am not the only one so young to have surgery of this nature.
I don't have as much as a success story as some of you guys do. I'll try and explain but keep it short. After my surgery on 9/26/2002 I did feel instant relief in my back and my leg. Of course over the next couple weeks I had some pain, but normal for post-op. I went to PT after 4 weeks and was back at work. But than about 4 months after surgery I started getting alot of pain in my calves, on both sides, meanwhile my surgery was only on the right side, and my feet were aching everyday. It became so severe I started calling my neurosurgeon who just advised that it was normal, and gave me some anti-infammatories and vicodins(again). After about 4 weeks of severe pain in my calves(which I thought I was going crazy), he sent me back for an MRI. in 3/2003. Which showed some scar tissue around the surgery area and some minor disc protrusions at the L5-S1, but "much improved" from pre-op. SO my surgeon was satisfied with these results and sent me to pain mangement. My 1st visit to pain management about 1 month ago, the doctor examined me and said I showed signs of nerve damage in both legs. He asked me if I ever had a "EMG" by a neurologist, which I never had. He referred me and off I went the next week (3 weeks ago) for this EMG, it's a 2 part test, a series of needles thet they stick in ur legs, and back and than electric shocks that shock you in the back and both legs, to stir up the nerves to see if there is damage...which in my case so far what they saw off the tests is I have substantial nerve damage in my bottom right calf and showed signs of nerve damage in my left calf too, but they need the test results to confirm the severity. I am waiting for the test reults to decide what to do...My pain management doctor said if it's "acute" it can be treated with steri/cortizone shots into my spine but if it is "chronic" the shots don't help. I am on more mediciation now than I ever was before, I take 2 30mg doses of MS CONTIN(Morphine sulfate)a day, Sometimes those wear off before the next dose so I take up to 4 10mg vicodin HP between a day and take 1 300MG of Neurotin at night. The nerve damage is caused by the fact that my disc was bulged so bad into my spine that it caused nerve damage in certain spots. My pain mgmt. doctor couldn't believe that my surgeon didn't suggest nerve damage and didn't refer me to see a neurologist after my complaints kept getting worse. So I have my finger crossed that the damage is "acute" and the shots will be helpful. Although I am a bit nervous about the shots, I don't know anyone who has had them. But it can't be worse than the surgery and the EMG test, which was very painful by the way and I still have bruises from the needles on my legs.
Well thanks for reading this short novel. Sorry if it seems I am complaining cause I probably am. It is just very frustrating, which I am sure you all understand. I am missing alot of time at work cause the meds make me real tired and sleepy, and sometimes real nausea. And anyone that has post-op pain especially months after surgery please know you should be taken serioulsy and should maybe look into this nerve damage, I mean the longer it goes the worse it gets, better safe than sorry, I wish I knew sooner. Well good luck to eveyone! Thanks again for reading, Take care. Any replies are welcome. :)

-Chrissy
Long Island, NY
Hey everyone, I am 25 years old from NY and this month is my 8th month post-op. I had a severe bulged disc at my L5-S1 that was pressing on my spinal canal, I had a Lumbar laminectomy discektomy on 9/26/02. I wish I knew about this post sooner, I think it's great that you are all supporting each other and helping each other thru this. It also makes me feel a little bit better knowing that I am not the only one so young to have surgery of this nature.
I don't have as much as a success story as some of you guys do. I'll try and explain but keep it short. After my surgery on 9/26/2002 I did feel instant relief in my back and my leg. Of course over the next couple weeks I had some pain, but normal for post-op. I went to PT after 4 weeks and was back at work. But than about 4 months after surgery I started getting alot of pain in my calves, on both sides, meanwhile my surgery was only on the right side, and my feet were aching everyday. It became so severe I started calling my neurosurgeon who just advised that it was normal, and gave me some anti-infammatories and vicodins(again). After about 4 weeks of severe pain in my calves(which I thought I was going crazy), he sent me back for an MRI. in 3/2003. Which showed some scar tissue around the surgery area and some minor disc protrusions at the L5-S1, but "much improved" from pre-op. SO my surgeon was satisfied with these results and sent me to pain mangement. My 1st visit to pain management about 1 month ago, the doctor examined me and said I showed signs of nerve damage in both legs. He asked me if I ever had a "EMG" by a neurologist, which I never had. He referred me and off I went the next week (3 weeks ago) for this EMG, it's a 2 part test, a series of needles thet they stick in ur legs, and back and than electric shocks that shock you in the back and both legs, to stir up the nerves to see if there is damage...which in my case so far what they saw off the tests is I have substantial nerve damage in my bottom right calf and showed signs of nerve damage in my left calf too, but they need the test results to confirm the severity. I am waiting for the test reults to decide what to do...My pain management doctor said if it's "acute" it can be treated with steri/cortizone shots into my spine but if it is "chronic" the shots don't help. I am on more mediciation now than I ever was before, I take 2 30mg doses of MS CONTIN(Morphine sulfate)a day, Sometimes those wear off before the next dose so I take up to 4 10mg vicodin HP between a day and take 1 300MG of Neurotin at night. The nerve damage is caused by the fact that my disc was bulged so bad into my spine that it caused nerve damage in certain spots. My pain mgmt. doctor couldn't believe that my surgeon didn't suggest nerve damage and didn't refer me to see a neurologist after my complaints kept getting worse. So I have my finger crossed that the damage is "acute" and the shots will be helpful. Although I am a bit nervous about the shots, I don't know anyone who has had them. But it can't be worse than the surgery and the EMG test, which was very painful by the way and I still have bruises from the needles on my legs.
Well thanks for reading this short novel. Sorry if it seems I am complaining cause I probably am. It is just very frustrating, which I am sure you all understand. I am missing alot of time at work cause the meds make me real tired and sleepy, and sometimes real nausea. And anyone that has post-op pain especially months after surgery please know you should be taken serioulsy and should maybe look into this nerve damage, I mean the longer it goes the worse it gets, better safe than sorry, I wish I knew sooner. Well good luck to eveyone! Thanks again for reading, Take care. Any replies are welcome. :)

-Chrissy
Long Island, NY
Hey Guys-
just to let you know, surgery went great, had
instant pain relief (well, except for the surgical
pain and that is all gone now too) The care I received was incredible, they did not skimp on
pain meds (IV morphine) and the nurses were great. I was up
walking less than 4 hours post surgery, went home
the next day. My wife is amazed at how well I am
doing, going for 2 walks a day gradually building
up my strength. she has to yell at me to take it
easy! thanks to everyone for all the positive thoughts sent my way!
Hi everyone! :wave:

Coby, where in California are you? I spent about a week in Orange County (went to a software seminar for the job I had at the time about 7 yrs ago.) I also lived in Modesto & San Jose for 1 yr when I was just 7 yrs old. California is beautiful- the climate, atmosphere- you must enjoy living there! [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/cool.gif[/img]
I've lived in Michigan for about 2 1/2 mos now. It's growing on me - but I still of course, miss "home". It does get terribly hot in Texas tho! Different culture here. Since Michigan's shaped like a hand or mitten- EVERYONE puts up their hand & shows you on their hand where certain things in Michigan are. I've taken great pride in conforming my hand to the state of Texas & showing them where things in Texas are! (it's a bit painful to contort your hand in that shape & people can get the impression you are gesturing something else if they don't stick around long enough!)
;)

To answer your question, I'm about 11 wks post-op now I guess. Also, when I touch my toes (about twice a wk only!) its from a sitting not standing position- I'm not THAT brave! & I do this very very slowly- stretching. No, I never did PT & never saw my Doc since the a.m. after surgery when I left the hospital. (I moved across country 2 wks to the day after surgery)What does your PT tell you that you need to do to eleviate some of the tightness you mentioned? Well, take care!

Buf, Welcome! :wave:
I'm an L5-S1, 11 wks post-op. Microdiscectomy was the weapon of choice for me. Your Doc sounds a bit optimistic about 2 hrs post op going home & returning to wk following wk. Some here were off for a month or more. I think most of us stayed the nite in the hospital. For one thing, they can hook you up to antibiotics & morphine for the nite & you can just be cared for better there that one nite - you don't want to miss the Physical Therapist's visit either. You need to know asap after the surgery how to move/not move. It becomes 2nd nature after awhile - espec if they give you a "soft" brace - kinda like a big bandaid fastening w/velcro- that wraps around you. The PT came the next a.m. & that's ALL the Phys Therapy I got. (Some here went to a PT for a few months post op tho). It's helpful to have proper body mechanics SHOWN to you while still in hospital. It's so important to follow those instructions so as to not re-herniate. (Fairly easy to re-herniate & that has to be avoided obviously at all costs). In the Rec rm, I pleaded w/my neuro-surgeon in Dallas to let me go home - we were moving across state in exactly 2 wks & just wasn't convenient to stay an hour away from home/had to arrange for husb to take off an extra day, etc.- BUT the nurse helped me change my mind & am glad that I at least let myself really rest & get the antibiotics that one nite.
As far as working following wk- I'd say half days if any. If you read thru these posts on this thread- there's another poster who was feeling so good after surgery he went back to work too soon - out of habit, picked up something & twisted & is very worried now he reherniated. His doc said no repeat MRI til 4 wks longer & he just has to wait to find out & that if reherniated, no more surgeries.
Sorry this is so wordy! We all seem to feel so much better after having this done- please read on this thread about how to prepare your living accomodations
& what to expect! Good luck & please let us hear!
Good Luck!
Laura :)
hi everyone,
i am glad to hear from so many of you and really appreciate your positivive and encouraging words. I am going to take your advice and decided to treat this as a long deserved real vacation at home. you all know how it is. when on vacation (usually beaches and camping for me), i return home more tired than rested. this time, i am forced to stay and rest and i think i am beginning to enjoy it. I don't know why, but i am kind of constipated even though i was on a morphine for only one day post op. i take lots of liquid and even tried suppository but i could do better. i woke up this morning and felt a little depressed getting the familiar sciatic pain in my right leg and was beginning to wonder whether the surgery really had done any good. i took vicodine for the first time and feel better. i actually drove to the supermarket (1mile) to get some apple juice and to a library to get some good sf, back care, and nonfiction books. i was kind of in a pain to be standing to select books and asked the librarian to pick out some books for me after i told about my back problem and the type of books i was interested. i went to a periodical room where they had a sofa and i just laid there reading megazine and the good librarian came back with real good choice books. she asked a volunteer to help me with carrying the book to my car. Imagine, here i am 6feet tall, 190 lbs, atheletic appearance, and used to lift weights, running, swimming and leading very active life, and the volunteer couldn't be more than 5feet and about 100 lbs. i didn't know whether to laugh or cry. bless these wonderful librarian and the volunteer. it really made my day and hopeful. i found out today i won't have much trouble for driving and should be able to drive the 30min for this thursday's appointment with my nurse. i just need to lean back, almost 45 degree angle and i am ok. i feel like i can almost do anything yet it is very frustrating when i can't walk more than five minutes without pain, and can't sit for prolonged period. i am typing this flat on my stomach.
daubie, i am glad your surgery went well and pray for your speedy recovery. my wife has two colleagues at work and operated the same day about three years ago by the same surgeon and at least one of them suffered even worse leg pain for the first few weeks and had to return to work after only two weeks by managing his pain with percocet. he is very active now, running marathon, biking, and everything but he still gets some residual numbness every now and then. i guess we will all get better and just gotta learn to be patient.

good luck everyone, and i will check back soon.
Hey Dave :wave:

We saw your 10:00 p.m. pre-surgery post - so not to worry!

Hi & welcome home! Wow, sounds like you had quite an experience in the hospital. I imagine hospital procedures,etc., are a bit different between USA & Canada- but probably not too different. Perhaps the combination of the shock to your body (surgery) & medication once you stood up & started moving around after surgery caused your fainting spell(s). I'm sure you're glad that parts behind you! Did you have a Morphine button hooked up that you cld just push when pain was bad? I had that - but also medicine for nausea that helped tremendously. Not sure what they sent you home with- hydrocone or something else- but you probably won't need it longer than the first wk. Then lesser - non narcotic medicine will probably be enough - Also, Vioxx as an anti-inflammatory worked great for me.

Again- TAKE IT EASY- & please let us know your progress! :)

Laura

Laura,

Okay, I left that part out. I had forgotten that they did give me a shot of morphine while I was in recovery.

Eeesh. So much medicine. They gave me pills to soften you up for your first bowel movement, needles for IV, sleeping pills, and offered me a shot of demerol. The fella next to me took a shot of demerol and had a tough time urinating after this. Instead of the demorol, which they offered my three times, I opted for the tylenol 3's. This is also what I asked for as the 'take home' pain killers and I'm going to try to take them only before going to sleep.

Lisa, you might not like this part, but he demerol shots are into your butt. I opted to pass as I'm not much of a needle guy but the tradeoff is that I was probably in more pain than I needed to be.

Nonetheless, it's probably good for you to be aware of this.

Also, feeling faint can be a pretty common thing while coming out of the lingering effects of the general anaesthetic. Couple that with the fact that you have fasted, have been lieing down for several hours, a warm hospital room, and EEEESHH. If you run into this, one of the things that really makes you feel better is a cool face cloth across your forehead, chin and shoulders. This helped bring me back a little and feel better.

They like to have an IV in you until your blood pressure comes back up to a desired level. I wanted to get mine out as soon as I could. (remember what I said about needles). They told me they were going to put it back in because my BP came down quite a bit after the fainting. With multiple cool face cloths being applied, courtesy of my awesome wife, I was able to convince them not to put the IV into me again.

Lisa, I don't want to scare you with all this. Just want to pass this all on while it's still fresh in my mind. You'll do fine with it. They were very kind to me and I was mostly very relaxed during my whole hospital experience.


For what it's worth,

Dave.

Hi everyone! :wave:

Hope everyone (wherever you all are!?!?) are doing great!

Dave- got another day behind you! Just keeps getting better w/each day! :round:

Lisa- another pretty day here in Michigan, huh? Just a quick note- in Dallas they just had me hit the morphine (already hooked & ready w/the IV that rehydrates & has antibiotics). No shots! Not sure how they do it here in Michigan tho. Also, just be sure to tell them you want something for nausea right away- it helps a lot! Also take some home or get them to get you a prescription for it if you'll be on narcotics the first few days home. [img]http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/dizzy.gif[/img]

Later!
Laura :)
HI there Laura! :wave:
Sure was hit 98 with heat index... been in the pool most of the afternoon....I figure atleast I can swim for now with out kicking.. get that upper body in shape LOL.
Dave- I'm going to skip Morphine.. I had a bad experience with it a few years back... I had to have my left ovary and tube removed 6 years ago, and they went in abdominally...I had a huge mass on my left ovary, and some other problems and started bleeding..anyhow,they had the pump hooked to my back for pain, and the next morning I was running a very high fever...Was 104,and the Dr. was getting worried.. he took the pump out,and within the hour my temp returned to normal.. I had gotten so sick with it in.Then 4 years ago, they ended up having to give me a complete hysterectomy,and I remeber there being a pump but this time it was like the one Laura stated she had in Dallas,allready hooked to the I.V... I think I'm going to opt for that one, or try and go with out..
Atleast this operation I won't be stuck in the hospital for a week. That was the worst part I think..
Nicely get to sleep, and they wake you up lol " do you need something to help you sleep?" no ty, I was doing fine till you woke me lol...
As far as meds for the neausea.. that will be a def..tummy is tore up as it is from the Vicodin 750's.
Horrible heartburn...

ddp11- So nice to meet you, and ty as well for your well wishes! So glad to hear your out and about and enjoying life as you very well should be..
Oh, if you really want a lil dose of what it's like to be a parent.... I can send you my 13 year old daughter lol... Nothing like a crabby hormonal teen! LOL.

Anyhow, going to go and shower now,and try to get to bed early tonight.. didn't sleep much last night... was a rough night.. no position was comfortable.

Take care all and have a wonderful evening!
Gentle hugs to all of you.....
Lisa



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Ruptured L 3-4
Ruptured L 4-5
Possible rupture S-1
Lumbar scoliosis
Microdiscectomy June 30,2003
Possible fusion??
Lisa- just a quick note- the IV I had in the hospital had antibiotics,etc- but just so you know- the pain med hooked into the line WAS morphine- so if you know thats what you had a reaction to once- probably want to ask for something else in it's place in advance. You shld have time before the surgery to do this once at the hospital.
Also, you mentioned heart burn- are you on something for it now? I understand there's medicine that can really help w/that & best not to let it go unchecked. Did previous pain meds cause an ulcer? Sorry If you've already checked all this out- I've just heard there's a lot that can be done about heartburn nowdays- & don't want you to have to deal w/anything more than your back right now!

Laura :)
Good afternoon you lovely people!

Laura :)- yeah I watch the firworks every year, but I won't even consider going to go and see them.. people are there the day before.. it draws such a crowd.. I prefer the comfort of my couch, and if I have to go potty or the like, I don't have to fight my way to the bathroom...LOL
I normally go down by my mom's to watcha show they put on there every year.. very very nice, they have a band and all that good stuff as well.Yes, I hear we have some storms headed our way... getting a bit windy over by me now as we speak, and the sun just went away..
As for the meds, I'm not sure if it was the morphine persay,or the fact that my body didn't like the needle in my spine.. but I am definately asking for something different. When I first went to the e.r. after my injury they gave me something for pain called Diladin??? I know I spelled that wrong lol..but man is that stuff strong, and I didn't feel sick from it, just felt like I couldn't move even if I had wanted too.I have have an ulcer, that was diagnosed..and my tummy was fine until I started the pain meds.. Could be nerves too.Just too many thing going through my mind at once lately... making sure things are ok before I go in, worry about my kids.. Just a big old worry wart as of late lol...( waddles to the sore for some dye to cover the new gray hairs) lol...

Dave- So very glad to hear your comming along great!
And as far as what I've gone through to this point,what doesn't break ya only makes u stronger I've been told.. lol..And everyone has the right to feel sorry for themselves at some point in their life :D Just don't be too hard on yourself! When ever I feel like I can't stand anymore, I remeber that there is always someone else worse off then me,even though it can be hard at times.
I share a birthday with someone famous as well. Ringo Starr.. who just happens to be one of my fav drummers :D
Well I need to go and shower, just got out of the pool,and need to attempt some chorse.. I hear laundry calling me from the dryer " Lisa... fold us please" lol..

Take care all, and have a great day!
LIsa

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Ruptured L 3-4
Ruptured L 4-5
Possible rupture S-1
Lumbar scoliosis
Microdiscectomy June 30,2003
Possible fusion??

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Good morning all....

Daubie-sure wish Dee's hubby didn't bust us in the trunk... could have really used that trip :)

Sorry I haven't posted but have been suffering with a horrible headache/neckache that came on a few days ago.
Mother-in-law- is a RN and is thinking that I might have a spinal fluid leak.. I did a no no the other day and bent down, wasn't intentional, but it happened none the less.
Thom- Glad to hear your doing so good. I had some night sweats after surgery, and I related mine to the fever I had ran due to the morphine that was in my system.If your prone to pneumonia, I'd see your dr. a.s.a.p! I was told that was one of the possibilities of my procedure.. They even gave me a breathing treatment pre-op. I was kinda surprised, but glad they did..
Mike-glad to hear your doig good as well!
Wow that was a big fragment to have removed!
Best wishesd to you both for a speedy recover.. can't believe I am 3 weeks post-op tomorrow.. Besides the headache,( wich vicodin won't even take away) I still have some numbness in my foot when I walk a good distance like thru a store and what not, and sometimes a twinge on the sciatic nerve, but like I stated before, compaired to pre-op I feel great!
Gentle hugs to all.....
Lisa

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Ruptured L 3-4
Ruptured L 4-5
Possible rupture S-1
Lumbar scoliosis
Laminectomy &
Discetomy-June 30,2003

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