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I have dropped my Paxil dose in 5mg intervals down from 20 to 10 in the last six days.............much of the brain fog is gone........but wow do I feel terrible........mostly mood swinging...........and just plain fatigued.........been taking Xanax on and off as needed.........I'm a bit scared to take it on a regular basis because I heard it can drop you down low? Is there any truth to that? Sickman you out there?

I just worry that if I take it and then the effects of going off the Paxil hit me that I will drop to low and feel really depressed..........

Anyhow, I am not going to drop any lower for a bit and see if it will level out............don't want to make Xmas a mess............

Any input on the Xanax and also on how long it should take me to taper off the Paxil would be great.

Also, Sickman, the doc is really pushing Zoloft, and I am swinging back and forth as to whether to try it...........any thoughts?

Thanks all and Happy Holidays,

Kaytee:-)
why are you stopping the paxil?
since zoloft is also a SSRI theres no need to taper off the paxil if you want to swap to zoloft it can be done overnight, ask doc

xanax is very useful for anxiety and also antidepressant side effects if taken sensibly, most of us anxiety sufferers are sensible
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I have dropped my Paxil dose in 5mg intervals down from 20 to 10 in the last six days.............much of the brain fog is gone........but wow do I feel terrible........mostly mood swinging...........and just plain fatigued.........been taking Xanax on and off as needed.........I'm a bit scared to take it on a regular basis because I heard it can drop you down low? Is there any truth to that? Sickman you out there?

I just worry that if I take it and then the effects of going off the Paxil hit me that I will drop to low and feel really depressed..........

Anyhow, I am not going to drop any lower for a bit and see if it will level out............don't want to make Xmas a mess............

Any input on the Xanax and also on how long it should take me to taper off the Paxil would be great.

Also, Sickman, the doc is really pushing Zoloft, and I am swinging back and forth as to whether to try it...........any thoughts?

Thanks all and Happy Holidays,

Kaytee:-)



Dear KayT,

You are doing it the right way. Never move from one SRRI or any mental drug overnight. I was moving from one SRRI to the other when I became totally disabled. The doctors don't take the medications and most of them read the patient information if not just listen to the saleman. Although may people have done this sucessfully, it is a dangerous practice. I have real Specialist now at the Veterans Hospital that as you can imagine deal with more mental problems then just about anyone. They are not afraid to speak out about the situiations caused by not knowing the medications. They always design a taper from one SRRI to another or any mental drug for that matter. The way I see it, is you are at the cross roads now. Do you have a manageable disorder or do you in fact have panic attacks or a panic disorder? My personal feelings are that SRRI drugs may help depression and anxiety symptoms, but not panic attacks. In my exprience, the only thing that works is a benzo. If you have panic disorder and I was you, I would move to either a low dosage of Klonopin or xanxa on a regular basis and level out at each step to be on the lowest dosage possible. Xanax does not take you to a low, it sedates you. This side effect wears off after a while when you get adjusted to your needed dosage. Kolonopin is easier to manage, taking it only once a day for the most part. Xanax on the other hand you will probably find that you need to take it 3 times a day. Morning, midafternoon and near bedtime. Zoloft, I have never tried, but as I posted to you before, you can read about it in the "Drug Interactions" postings on this board. They were talking about the effects, not really interactions. There were 105 posts a couple of weeks ago, you may have to skim back. My personal opinion is that this is going to turn out to be a nightmare drug. I personally see more risk taking drugs that alter the chemistry of your body, then a drug that is a sedative. The sedative actually works for me and you would not believe, and I am not going to post a list of my symptoms that it checks. Just take my word for it benzos stop panic attack or at least make it livable again. I am not going to be a tester of drugs anymore. Where I am is where I am going to stay. I may have had to learn to manage my disorder and yes sometimes you just can't help but get down, but that is not the medications, it is living in the past (remembering) before I ever got this disorder. You come back up though, you have to learn to bring yourself up. You have meaning, you have purpose and you ones that love you. You are at a point where you have to decide if you want to try different medications to find one or just start using one that has a track record of success. All of the mental medications are addicting and don't let anyone, and I mean anyone tell you different. I have given you my best opinion of what I would do, and again all of this is only my opinion from my experiences, what I have read, been told by Professionals and what I have seen. I hope the choice you make is the right one for you. Just remember, stay in control of your disorder. You are the expert of your symptoms, no one else in the world. God bless you and Merry Christmas to you and your Family.

Sincerely, Your Board Friend,

Sickman :)
Hi hry33,

About five weeks ago I switched from Celexa to Paxil.........and it didn't work out.........have felt terrible........bad ses............so I am a bit scared to do the same again.........worried it might make things worse rather then better...........it would be switching meds (SSRIs) three times in a little over a month........



Hi Sickman,

Thanks for the info.............I am petrified to be off SSRIs but also feel like I need to give it a chance...........I have GAD..........and Panic........but usually the anxiety comes in to play when I begin worrying over and over about how I feel.........which is usually because the Panic has hit me and given me the scary symptoms..........you know what i mean...........it's like a feeding frenzy..........

I have been dropping the Paxil 5 mgs every three days...........but decided to drop the Paxil from 10mg to 5 mg after four days.........as to not ruin xmas completely..........so after I drop to five I will take it for three days then stop taking the Paxil...........that is the part I'm afraid of........what my brain is going to do once I stop it............do you think I am doing this to fast? The side effects of the Paxil have been awful and I know it needs to be out of me...........my withdrawal effects have been nausea, dizziness, much more anxiety, a couple bouts of panic hitting me, chills and feeling basically horrible............this comes and goes.........for example two hours ago I felt bad.........thought I was going to have to take the Paxil back up.............but now I still feel bad but not near as bad as I did...........it's like a rollercoaster...........and I have been so worried about what this is going to do to me...........and know that I need to be more optimistic about it and try not to look for the bad in it...........I hopefully will feel better once this is out of me.........we'll see

I took two weeks off work in order to get this taken care of...........have to be back on January 5th..........I hope things will seem better by then.........

Kaytee:-)
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Hi hry33,

About five weeks ago I switched from Celexa to Paxil.........and it didn't work out.........have felt terrible........bad ses............so I am a bit scared to do the same again.........worried it might make things worse rather then better...........it would be switching meds (SSRIs) three times in a little over a month........



Hi Sickman,

Thanks for the info.............I am petrified to be off SSRIs but also feel like I need to give it a chance...........I have GAD..........and Panic........but usually the anxiety comes in to play when I begin worrying over and over about how I feel.........which is usually because the Panic has hit me and given me the scary symptoms..........you know what i mean...........it's like a feeding frenzy..........

I have been dropping the Paxil 5 mgs every three days...........but decided to drop the Paxil from 10mg to 5 mg after four days.........as to not ruin xmas completely..........so after I drop to five I will take it for three days then stop taking the Paxil...........that is the part I'm afraid of........what my brain is going to do once I stop it............do you think I am doing this to fast? The side effects of the Paxil have been awful and I know it needs to be out of me...........my withdrawal effects have been nausea, dizziness, much more anxiety, a couple bouts of panic hitting me, chills and feeling basically horrible............this comes and goes.........for example two hours ago I felt bad.........thought I was going to have to take the Paxil back up.............but now I still feel bad but not near as bad as I did...........it's like a rollercoaster...........and I have been so worried about what this is going to do to me...........and know that I need to be more optimistic about it and try not to look for the bad in it...........I hopefully will feel better once this is out of me.........we'll see

I took two weeks off work in order to get this taken care of...........have to be back on January 5th..........I hope things will seem better by then.........

Kaytee:-)


Dear KayT,
Have at anytime have you upped the paxil when feeling bad and felt better or just thought that this is the answer? I know you feel horrible but you are not having that bad of symptoms if they are coming and going. Use the xanax as you need to help you though this. Some of this could still be the Celexa. Celexa is a high seritonin medication and although the half life is basically past, your body must readjust to the changes. I was on the worst of the seritonin drugs, "Serzone" and xanax is what straightened me out. Nothing else, celexa, effexor, could shake the effects. You are having nothing like I was and should have no fears at all. You are doing fine. Don't set time limits on when to drop off, let your body adjust and tell you. You are way past the stage of physically harming you now. Just have some fun with the Holidays and take your time. Split the pills if you have to, but don't worry. You don't have any combination in you that can actually hurt you, only make you feel ill. Try this, "No more What Ifs". There aren't any. Again take your time and use the xanax only when needed to ease this. If you move completely off eventually and you start having panic attacks, hey, that is all they are. That is when you have to except that it is condition and submit to the benzo for the fix. I am not trying to scare you with that, I just did not know any other way to say it. Sometimes we have to except that it is condition not withdrawals, lets hope that its not. It still will not harm you. No more "What Ifs". Happy days

Sincerely,

Sickman :)
I was just thinking, what are we doing on here on Xmas eve? I'm waiting for my kids to go to sleep...........they are pretty excited........we've been checkin out Santas location on the net..........the man can move.........

You have really helped me with all of my questions, no matter how repetive I've been, and I appreciate it. This has been a rough time for me and I will admit that I have been very afraid of what these drugs will do to me if I stop taking them.........probably why I stayed on Celexa for so long........just easier to take it then to deal with the anxiety of going off..........especially with the horror stories out there..........yes, I am a huge what iffer......always have that little devil on my shoulder saying what if what if............and that just feeds the anxiety.........which turns to panic........which then makes me feel very out of control........

You are right though, I just have to suck it up and get through this..........and I know that last drop from 10 to 5 to zero will be tough......but once this is all out of me........I can see how I feel on my own and go from there........if the anxiety kicks back in I am heading straight to the Psych for Klonopin...........

I do feel a bit hurried to taper the Paxil because I have to get back to work and be thinking straight............so that may be the deciding factor on how fast I have to do this..........as of now I am dropping from 10mg to 5mg of Paxil tomorrow night..........and we will see how long I stay there until I drop again...........

I hope you have a great Christmas and get lots of goodies from Santa........do you have kids Sickman?

Kaytee:-)
One more thing Sickman,

Do you think I will have full blown Paxil Withdrawal since I only took it for four weeks?

I think I am through much of the Celexa withdrawal, so hopefully this won't be as bad as if I took Paxil for a longer period of time?

Thanks again,

Time to go check on Santa!

Kaytee:-)
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One more thing Sickman,

Do you think I will have full blown Paxil Withdrawal since I only took it for four weeks?

I think I am through much of the Celexa withdrawal, so hopefully this won't be as bad as if I took Paxil for a longer period of time?

Thanks again,

Time to go check on Santa!

Kaytee:-)


Dear KayT,
No I don't think that you will have a full blown paxil Withdrawal because the half life of paxil is a lot longer then Celexa and should help wing you off itself. That does not mean to drop all the way off by the time you go back to work. Cut the pills to 5 then 2.5 then off if you feel you need to. It is better to get a little now and then ill feelings and not an all day thing at work. Carry the xanax with you and if you start having a problem, go to the restroom and take a xanax to get back to normal. You may get some "zaps" like body shocks or flushes, etc., for quite some time. Don't worry about this it is normal in many. Just try to remember that none of this is going to hurt you and only creates fear if you let it. I wish you well and I will be here to answer your questions as best I can when ever you post. It has been a pleasure assisting you.

Sincerely,

Sickman :) I'm getting kicked off the computer, my wife wants to email some people so Happy Holidays.
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Dear KayT,
No I don't think that you will have a full blown paxil Withdrawal because the half life of paxil is a lot longer then Celexa and should help wing you off itself. That does not mean to drop all the way off by the time you go back to work. Cut the pills to 5 then 2.5 then off if you feel you need to. It is better to get a little now and then ill feelings and not an all day thing at work. Carry the xanax with you and if you start having a problem, go to the restroom and take a xanax to get back to normal. You may get some "zaps" like body shocks or flushes, etc., for quite some time. Don't worry about this it is normal in many. Just try to remember that none of this is going to hurt you and only creates fear if you let it. I wish you well and I will be here to answer your questions as best I can when ever you post. It has been a pleasure assisting you.

Sincerely,

Sickman :) I'm getting kicked off the computer, my wife wants to email some people so Happy Holidays.



Merry Christmas Sickman and all!

I had a rough night last night..........just couldn't sleep.........I took a .25 Xanax and still lay there with my heart pounding...........so I got up and chatted with my cousin on the phone about it (she is an night owl and also used to be a Psych nurse, so she helps me a lot just by telling me I'm going to be okay). She told me to take another half a Xanax and try to go back to sleep. At 3:30am I did this and feel asleep but had the most horrific night mare and woke up scared to go back to sleep............I tossed and turned the rest of the morning until my son came in to tell me that Santa had arrived..........which made me smile and be thankful for what I do have..........and realize that i can get through this........one day at a time...........

I feel okay now........just here..........not to good.........not to bad........and am thankful for that.............plan on taking the Xanax pretty regular today as to try and offset this pounding heart thing..........and the anxiety that creeps in when I get scared about this........

I am at 10mg now..........and it seems as if my body realized that last night and said "Hey, what are we doing, I don't like this". I am concerned about the next drop to 5mg...........and am wondering if I should taper in a different way then I have been doing...........I did 15 mg for three days, 10 mg for four days now..........and that is where I am at...........

I have read where people skip days (take 10 then wait a day to take another 10) drop the dose up and down (10-15-10-15) and then others just keep tapering..................any advise on what seems to work the best would be appreciated...............I don't know about the upping and downing the dose..........that sounds like it could yo yo someone, but the skipping every other day thing and slowly stretching it out could help..............

Well, off to play with the kids, they are each in their rooms enjoying their Xmas gifts............I got the perfect pancake maker for Xmas from my 10 year old son.........he is so cute..........and got a hunka hunka ring from my 6 year old daughter...........with pink stones in it........she was so excited to give it to me............

Hope you all are feeling well today and having a great Holiday!

Kaytee:-)