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I am happy to see this forum, seems to answer alot!
I have HIGH BP plus a few blocked arteries!Drs have me on these drugs since the blockages were discovered. I have fought the BP half my life, no one seems to be able to come up with the right drug .I discovered I can only take small doses of drugs, and different drugs together cause major reactions. Ace inhibitors give me troubles but Dr perscribed lisinipril after hospital.Clonidine is the only one that takes the ringing and roaring in head away (I know this is not an ace inhibitor)
The following drugs I am taking at 10pm :plavix 75mg for blockage,
Clonidine 0.1;atenolol(beta blocker)12 1/2 mg ( used to take Lisin 2.5 but started different time)
6am:isorbiside 60;hctz 25;Clonidine 0.1
2pm:Clonidine0.1; and the lisinipril 2.5
Would one know if these combinations at these times would cause my BP to be higher. I am blaming the ace inhibitor as captopril did a number one me , could barely walk, off balance ect and raised my bp instead of lowering.
I might add Drs have not been much help to me thru the years . Thank you, akjoha
I'd simplify if I were you.

Personally I think the Plavix (to prevent clotting) on a daily basis forever is a BIG mistake....the risk of fatal bleeding is 1% in a couple months. Aspirin will work as well (CURE study!) and more safely AND doesn't cost $100-$200 a month.
Why not simplify the drugs especially if you've noticed the more mixing, the more problems.. Atenolol 12.5 is just too small a dose.

I'd recommend something like atenolol 50 mg plus some hydrochlorothiazide if you tend to retain water + one 325 mg aspirin/day (or even half if you're good at pill-splitting.) If you are a man however the atenolol will cause erection problem. Women do better with beta blockers.
All cheap and simple (total around $ 10/month). The heavier beta blockade will help your heart a lot.

Have they ever recommended doing something about the coronary blockages...like angioplasty?
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I'd simplify if I were you.

Personally I think the Plavix (to prevent clotting) on a daily basis forever is a BIG mistake....the risk of fatal bleeding is 1% in a couple months. Aspirin will work as well (CURE study!) and more safely AND doesn't cost $100-$200 a month.
Why not simplify the drugs especially if you've noticed the more mixing, the more problems.. Atenolol 12.5 is just too small a dose.

I'd recommend something like atenolol 50 mg plus some hydrochlorothiazide if you tend to retain water + one 325 mg aspirin/day (or even half if you're good at pill-splitting.) If you are a man however the atenolol will cause erection problem. Women do better with beta blockers.
All cheap and simple (total around $ 10/month). The heavier beta blockade will help your heart a lot.

Have they ever recommended doing something about the coronary blockages...like angioplasty?[/QUO

the arteries are too small for a stent or ballon, I had horrible problems from the catheter, couldnt stop the bleeding , but thats anouther story!
I have tried larger doses but they slow my heart beat way down, nurses were alarmed in the hospital was in low 60,s
This is one of my problems cannot take large doses of anything.
I have a sister with same system as I do.Drs almost killed her with drugs.
I see heart Dr in a couple days, hope to get more answers.(the plavix Dr got for me without cost and am not sure how long I am supposed to take it. Will ask Dr.I also have ulcers so this is not good for that either!
as for NOT taking anything it is too risky for me as my bp goes even higher. The bp readings of posters in here would be horrified if they had my high readings!I feel best if mine is 140/70 akjoha(a she)
Akjoha,

Low 60's heart rate is VERY common, almost universal, with atenolol and usually a desirable side effect for those with any CDH...or even for EVERYBODY for that matter.

The endless bleeding with catheter removal is caused by the "loading dose" of Plavix they give to prevent clots caused by angiography. They gave me 5 Plavix beforehand and I bled like a stuck pig!

Personally, I think the 140/70 is not all that bad: that 110/55 :D that the AMA seems to be aiming for so that EVERYBODY can be on these awful medications and seeing a doctor evry second day doesn't impress me one bit!
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Akjoha,

Low 60's heart rate is VERY common, almost universal, with atenolol and usually a desirable side effect for those with any CDH...or even for EVERYBODY for that matter.

The endless bleeding with catheter removal is caused by the "loading dose" of Plavix they give to prevent clots caused by angiography. They gave me 5 Plavix beforehand and I bled like a stuck pig!

Personally, I think the 140/70 is not all that bad: that 110/55 :D that the AMA seems to be aiming for so that EVERYBODY can be on these awful medications and seeing a doctor evry second day doesn't impress me one bit!


110/55 what a joke. 99% of society would be on B/P meds. Yesterday my B/P was 116/65. Does that mean that I need to take more meds. & be in a coma???
I had 2 interns pushing down with all their weight to stem the bleeding after they pulled the catheter...12 minutes of this and I was deep purple/red/black from mid thigh to naval.
Don't get me wrong, I think Plavix has it's place as a temporary aid to clot prevention. But day in and day out the drug is simply FAR too risky (I had a 14 day nosebleed from it.)
And for anyone with a history of stomach ulceration it's COMPLETELY CONTRAINDICATED :nono:-- the risk of a fatal bleed is just TOO HIGH!

Yep, when I see 115/75. I know it's time to cut down on the meds (I'm there now with some weight loss)...and since I pay the bills, that's how it will work....an unmedicated 125/85 is better than a comatose, parched zombie at 108/68...if the AMA doesn't like it they can pay my insurance bill.
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I had 2 interns pushing down with all their weight to stem the bleeding after they pulled the catheter...12 minutes of this and I was deep purple/red/black from mid thigh to naval.
Don't get me wrong, I think Plavix has it's place as a temporary aid to clot prevention. But day in and day out the drug is simply FAR too risky (I had a 14 day nosebleed from it.)
And for anyone with a history of stomach ulceration it's COMPLETELY CONTRAINDICATED :nono:-- the risk of a fatal bleed is just TOO HIGH!

Yep, when I see 115/75. I know it's time to cut down on the meds (I'm there now with some weight loss)...and since I pay the bills, that's how it will work....an unmedicated 125/85 is better than a comatose, parched zombie at 168/68...if the AMA doesn't like it they can pay my insurance bill.


My kids didnt know what had happened to me for 2 hrs after taken to recover from Cath.I didnt have 2 pressing down but 1 very large person who kept apologozing for the pain, he had to finally get help and ask them what to do. She told him to sandbag, and was told NOT to move my leg for 8hrs, Talk about agony. Next day I was taken to another room right near nurses station and the drugging began to put me out of it, the operator of the machine told my daughter who kept coming in and out(terribly upset)that I kept trying to get up and leave! This I dont remember.My leg also was deep purple ect, all black and blue and didnt clear up for over a month. I dont think I will ever do that again!I was amazed at how many goofups have been done to people via this proceedure!
The time the nurses were concerned in hospital my pulse was 46.
also was told he wants to form scar tissue that is why the plavix and to clear arteries.
plavix concerns after seeing the heart Dr on Friday, he asked if I were taking aspirin too and I said No I have had stomach ulcers, he said you cantake aspirin but he never said stop the plavix! I am really fed up ! I want to go off the plavix and just take aspirin(coated)!! Is there any risk in just stopping it? One doesnt have much choice as it is only 75 and no way to taper off.
Fighting high BP and Drs is the story of my life seems like!
Could someone please let me know as I take it at nite before bed and want to stop.Its MY life and body I am tired of trying to believe Drs with these meds.Thank you, akjoha
akjoha,
Since it's got a VERY long half life the best way to taper from Plavix is take one every 2 days, then one every three days....there's a very slow decrease in your system this way. In fact a regular on these boards, pcovers, takes 1 Plavix every second day because he tends to bleed from more (he had a stent.)

The lowest rate of bleeds have been seen with 100-200 mg aspirin rather than 325 mg or even the 75mg "baby aspirin."...a surprising result.

I had my stent 6 weeks ago and have been taking Plavix every second day for the last three weeks...I got sick of the bloody nose. I'll do it for a total of 2 months than 1 every 3 days for one more month. I also do a regular aspirin each day (and have for 25 years.)
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akjoha,
Since it's got a VERY long half life the best way to taper is tak one every 2 days, then one every three....there's a very slow decrease in your system this way. In fact a regualr on this board takes 1


should this regime be taken just once, or do you mean for instance tonight I would skip the dose until tomorrow nite ect, and do this for a few nites, then continue to skip 3 nites and so on and so forth.I hope I am not confusing you. also would you say to start taking the aspirin in the mornings say tomorrow morning so it is established before stopping the plavix entirely?
I do want to continue the thinner due to the blockages in arteries; it would be nice if they had cleared out already but dont want to go thru the angio thing if I dont have to again. I dont seem to get so tired as I did before!
thank you very much! akjoha
Quote from zip2play:
akjoha,
Since it's got a VERY long half life the best way to taper from Plavix is take one every 2 days, then one every three days....there's a very slow decrease in your system this way. In fact a regular on these boards, pcovers, takes 1 Plavix every second day because he tends to bleed from more (he had a stent.)

The lowest rate of bleeds have been seen with 100-200 mg aspirin rather than 325 mg or even the 75mg "baby aspirin."...a surprising result.

I had my stent 6 weeks ago and have been taking Plavix every second day for the last three weeks...I got sick of the bloody nose. I'll do it for a total of 2 months than 1 every 3 days for one more month. I also do a regular aspirin each day (and have for 25 years.)


I am sorry I posted the question before I read all the explanation,thanks again,akjoha