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I stopped taking Pravachol a few weeks ago after reading all the horror stories about it on the web and in the recent stories on statins. I haven't told my doctor yet, but I know what he is going to say anyway. At this point, I don't even care. But I have not read anything really bad about Diovan's side effects--which I am also taking. I just hate medicine I guess. Part of the problem is that I have changed almost all my eating habits to healthier ones and exercised regularly for 3 years now and I am still about the same with the medicine. I am about 20 pounds overweight but I can't seem to lose weight no matter how much I run and cut my calories and fat intake. My blood pressure is about 124/87 but I do not want to be on any medicine permanently. All my doctors seem to be medicine obssessed. They don't seem to understand that not all of us want to be prisoners to them. Any suggestions out there? Has anyone just dumped all of this stuff and done alright without them? I am starting to think that I can't trust any doctors out there...
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I stopped taking Pravachol a few weeks ago after reading all the horror stories about it on the web and in the recent stories on statins. I haven't told my doctor yet, but I know what he is going to say anyway. At this point, I don't even care. But I have not read anything really bad about Diovan's side effects--which I am also taking. I just hate medicine I guess. Part of the problem is that I have changed almost all my eating habits to healthier ones and exercised regularly for 3 years now and I am still about the same with the medicine. I am about 20 pounds overweight but I can't seem to lose weight no matter how much I run and cut my calories and fat intake. My blood pressure is about 124/87 but I do not want to be on any medicine permanently. All my doctors seem to be medicine obssessed. They don't seem to understand that not all of us want to be prisoners to them. Any suggestions out there? Has anyone just dumped all of this stuff and done alright without them? I am starting to think that I can't trust any doctors out there...


Frank,

you sound exactly me and alot of other people on this board. I have tried many times to drop it all in fact I am doing that right now but did not want to let my fellow board members know until I have results after 2 weeks of doing this.

The other day I accidentally took 2 diovan and I did this 2 times in the course of a week. I am an athlete and eat healthy and cannot drop these 2 sizes that I have gained from being on diovan. I have upped my cardio from 5 miles to 8-10 miles a week. I also weight train 5-6 days a week.

My husband keeps insisting that I do not have have high BP and that I have white coat and that I should not take any of their meds. I decided to try this again and see if he is right. I have been monitoring my BP now for the last 2 days without meds and it is normal and even low normal (118/75) but I think the true test will be after 2 weeks as the meds stay with you for about that long. I am the real life guinea pig on this board as many can attest to I have tried so many things. I will keep everyone posted as to my results but I beleive like you that you should try every single thing you can think of before accepting the meds and the crap that goes with it..Good Luck, Lisa ;)
Frank, good luck in trying to get of the meds. My cardio gave me a script for pravigard(pravachol & asprin) but i won't take it. She finally gave me a script for niaspan, but im afraid to take that also. Alot of these bp meds can cause other diseases, so you're right to be concerned.

Some on this board use diovan without side effects. I've not personally tried diovan, but i've tried ace inh., arbs, beta blocker and ccbs. I've even tried diuretics. Some caused me great problems w/ horrendous side effects and other caused no side effects and no reduction in bp.

If you discover a way to lower your bp w/o meds, please post it on this board. Good luck!
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I stopped taking Pravachol a few weeks ago after reading all the horror stories about it on the web and in the recent stories on statins. I haven't told my doctor yet, but I know what he is going to say anyway. At this point, I don't even care. But I have not read anything really bad about Diovan's side effects--which I am also taking. I just hate medicine I guess. Part of the problem is that I have changed almost all my eating habits to healthier ones and exercised regularly for 3 years now and I am still about the same with the medicine. I am about 20 pounds overweight but I can't seem to lose weight no matter how much I run and cut my calories and fat intake. My blood pressure is about 124/87 but I do not want to be on any medicine permanently. All my doctors seem to be medicine obssessed. They don't seem to understand that not all of us want to be prisoners to them. Any suggestions out there? Has anyone just dumped all of this stuff and done alright without them? I am starting to think that I can't trust any doctors out there...


I stopped taking diovan last year (Oct. 2004) and im doing fine,i dont know why, may be because of the exercise and the water therapy, my blood pressure is 124/84 without the medicine, i hate medicines, the only medicine im taking now is the gliphizide for my diabetes, my blood sugar is normal too, 84, the highest is 140, without diovan im doing great, sometimes my blood sugar is 115/74 i dont know if that is low or normal, sometimes it is 105/75. Just exercise everyday i work-out from 4:00am to 7:00am.
frank, if you haven't already done so, you might want to give your cholesterol numbers before and after you started taking the Pravachol on the high cholesterol board and get opinions there. And also indicate what you are doing to get your numbers down without the medication.

Good luck to you.
Okay, its friday night and I am checking in. My doc said it was okay for me to drop the HCTZ--no concerns, no questions, no nada. The nurse just called and said okay--go ahead. WOW. Tomorrow I start on the diovan without hctz. We'll see how that goes.
One more thing: I have been noticing these semi-headaches, semi-dizzyness spells that have lasted the last couple of days. I've even had a few spasms of heart "scrunching"--for lack of a better description. But to hell with it, I am not going back to pravachol--I don't think my leaving it is what is causing it anyway. I have been running a bit faster and maybe this has stressed my heart. I am going to take it easy this weekend and see what happens (wine and watching Slacker for the 20th time should calm me down). My numbers right now are 140/87. Higher than usual, but it was hell at work today so I expected it.
It is Friday morning and I have been off the HCTz for a week now. My BP is 123/88. It rose from Sunday's 114/86. It has spiked a bit this week--up to 130/101 on Tuesday (exactly like my pharmacist said). But this is probably more my fault (or maybe the Allegra's--my allergies have been acting up). I haven't really been watching my salt intake. I can't say I feel bloated or anything and I haven't really been drinking that much more water either. So I will have to work on these two things. And I am laying off the running for a while until I can see how this is going to go. I've started walking about an hour a day instead. If this works out okay, I am going to ask my doctor to lower my diovan a whole bunch. I am currently taking 320mgs a day. My plan is to cut it in half in about two weeks if my bp stabilizes a bit. I need to get a lipid panel done to see what is going on inside me ( I dropped the Pravachol about 7 weeks ago). You know what they say, "He who has himself for a doctor..."--but maybe a doctor made this one up.
I am checking in with my numbers which ranged from 130/95 to 124/87 today. This is my 9th day without hctz and my 7th week without Pravachol. My heart did feel a bit funny at some points of the day. Like a pin ***** or something. But I've been under so much medication, that I expect some of this. I haven't been able to exercise the last 4 days, as the weather here has been horrendous. I have noticed that if i go too long without food, it seems like my bp goes up. I need to check on this with my bp monitor--say, note before and after eating, to see results. I have also noticed that my pressure in the neck area seems to come in waves. I've started keeping a food log to see if this pressure is food related. I've stopped wearing a tie to work and am now forcing myself to breathe through my belly with longer and stronger breaths. These might just be quack ideas, but I want to try all natural stuff before i break down again and run to the docs for more meds. I also got my medical records from my first cardiologist to see my progression under his care. It was awkward, to say the least. But, he is so med-focused, he just did not give me the impression that he was listening to my calls for less meds. We'll see how this goes. If anyone out there has any ideas on any of this, let me know.
Okay, my numbers today are 136/98, which is higher than yesterday's numbers. But I expected this since it is Valentine's Day (or as men like to call it, according to Jay Leno, "Extortion day"). I didn't get a chance to call my doctor but I will tomorrow. I will probably tell him that I have been off the pravachol since before Christmas. So, i will probably be needing to look for another heart doctor soon. We'll see how it goes.
JTU, I am still a little confused. If there are foreign bodies in the body, the real culprit is our overproduction of white blood cells, right? Did your dentist say why this would lead to heart attacks or high blood pressure? I guess I am not understanding the process here. And would it follow, that someone that takes excellent care of their teeth (and all infections, for that matter) would not be having high blood pressure? I would love for this to be true (since, I cut back on everything the doctor told me to, cut back on my work load and started running 5ks on a regular basis and my blood pressure was still high). But I am not sure how this is panning out...
Checking in my with numbers: 129/92. 111/92 and 124/89. That one-eleven freaked me out for a second.
I feel a little tightness on the right side of my neck and throat--is this angina? It just feels tight, like i am wearing a tie or something--it isn't a bad pain or stabbing or anything like that.
Also, my doctor finally called--well, the nurse actually--and they okayed most of my tests. The homocysteine, testosterone, VAP Cholesterol, etc. Usually I am terrified of needles and I take forever to go to the clinic, but this time, I can't wait to see my results. Especially the Cholesterol one to see how I am doing without the pravachol after about two months. And to see any changes without the hctz. These tests will make or break this experiment, y'all. If I am doing well, i will proceed to get off the diovan. IF not, well, I'll have alot of thinking to do. Either way, I am also kind of curious to see my testosterone score. I might start a pot with my friends to see who gets it closest.