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I have been experiencing vertigo for about 12 years now and the first time I got out of bed and hit the floor. The room was spinning. Since I have suffered sometimes daily with unsteadiness and disequalibrium. Just like sea legs and other times positional like rolling over in bed. I have been to now just today the third ENT and this one specializes in vertigo. All other MRI and Cat Scans have turned out just fine. Hearing and vestibular just fine, I have seen an endocrenologist and a nurologist and they could give me nothing. I don't drink alcohol anymore and cut out caffeine thinking that may be contributing. I am at the end of my rope! This last week has been terrible and I don't know what to do!

This time the MRI was done with contrast so I am hoping it turns up something. Something fixable. I have heard that anxiety can cause this as well but it seems that my anxiety is due to my vertigo. When I am not feeling dizzy I function just fine. Has anyone suffered the same type symptoms as me or know someone who has and can offer any helpful advice? Like I said it seems it is daily for the most part but 4-5 days can be really bad!

I eat meclizine like candy and have been given valium in the past and the valium helps supress it some but it still is not tolerable. Can anxiety cause something like this? Like I said I don't know what my next step is? Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated!!! Thank you!!!
Freebird, if you're problem is positional vertigo, where you're spins, not your dizziness, get worse when you turn your head a certain way, usually tilted back or foward or if you're laying down, left or right, you might have Benign Paroxysimal (sp) Positional Vertigo (BPPV)...or as we like to call it...HELL.

Have you been tested for it? Even if you haven't push to see a vestibular PT. They will spend more time with you than ENT's or other specialists will. Regardless if the ENT's think you could have it, a PT is a very good place to start. Most ear issues won't get worse if you see one and they will not do anything until they run through your symptoms and review everything. Your new ENT, who handles vertigo cases, will be able to point you to a good PT.

Pt's can usually uncover the stuff that doctors can't also, because they'll do the tests mutiple times and really track your symptoms whereas an ENT doesn't spend the time.

If your ENT tested you for it, (an ENG or VNG test with ear caloric), and you tested negative, I wouldn't trust it. I've had 3 done, one came out iffy, the others negative, yet the PT found me positive with major BPPV.

Falling straight out of bed, dizzy spells subsiding than returning, it sounds to me like BPPV. I've had it over the last 7 months or so. What happens is it feels continual...you have spells of spinning that come and go, but you're body doesn't recover from it automatically once it happens more frequently (as opposed to short intervals in years past that you recovered from). Once it hits over and over, your brain doesn't readjust as easily so you feel the disequilibrium constantly, which makes you think you have it all the time.

Get to a PT, if they find you have it, they will do some manuevers (read about Epley's, Sermont) that will realign the floating material (crystals) in your inner ear. Once it's settled and your symptoms aren't as severe, they'll have you do vestibular exercises in office and at home that will help recalibrate your inner ear's "balance signals" to your brain, eye exercises, balance exercises which will help with the disequilibrium.



I didn't read more of your background or symptoms, so maybe you've tried all this. If not, I think it's a good place to start.

**also note - it might take some valium (and some major hutspa) to get through the manuevers PT's have you do. The reason you feel a spinning sensation is because your eyes are involuntarily moving (nystagmus). When they do a manuever, they will purposely put you through one of these spins by having you roll to one side than another until you sit up. If you have nystagmus, you have BPPV.

It's absolute hell, but just know that each spin only lasts less than a minute. It's important to relax, and let it finish its course on each roll, because the crystals need to move completely through the ear canal in order to settle.

I found out the hard way and stopped half way through, which made my dizziness unbareable and I couldn't function for weeks.

There's a lot of different reasons for dizziness. From what I've experienced and been told by prof's is that BPPV (although debilitating) is one of the easiest to clear. If you have it, you've probably had it for a very long time.

Take care, try not to get too anxious. It makes things twice as bad really.

snh39
[QUOTE=snh39;3559393]Freebird, if you're problem is positional vertigo, where you're spins, not your dizziness, get worse when you turn your head a certain way, usually tilted back or foward or if you're laying down, left or right, you might have Benign Paroxysimal (sp) Positional Vertigo (BPPV)...or as we like to call it...HELL.

Have you been tested for it? Even if you haven't push to see a vestibular PT. They will spend more time with you than ENT's or other specialists will. Regardless if the ENT's think you could have it, a PT is a very good place to start. Most ear issues won't get worse if you see one and they will not do anything until they run through your symptoms and review everything. Your new ENT, who handles vertigo cases, will be able to point you to a good PT.

Pt's can usually uncover the stuff that doctors can't also, because they'll do the tests mutiple times and really track your symptoms whereas an ENT doesn't spend the time.

If your ENT tested you for it, (an ENG or VNG test with ear caloric), and you tested negative, I wouldn't trust it. I've had 3 done, one came out iffy, the others negative, yet the PT found me positive with major BPPV.

Falling straight out of bed, dizzy spells subsiding than returning, it sounds to me like BPPV. I've had it over the last 7 months or so. What happens is it feels continual...you have spells of spinning that come and go, but you're body doesn't recover from it automatically once it happens more frequently (as opposed to short intervals in years past that you recovered from). Once it hits over and over, your brain doesn't readjust as easily so you feel the disequilibrium constantly, which makes you think you have it all the time.

Get to a PT, if they find you have it, they will do some manuevers (read about Epley's, Sermont) that will realign the floating material (crystals) in your inner ear. Once it's settled and your symptoms aren't as severe, they'll have you do vestibular exercises in office and at home that will help recalibrate your inner ear's "balance signals" to your brain, eye exercises, balance exercises which will help with the disequilibrium.



I didn't read more of your background or symptoms, so maybe you've tried all this. If not, I think it's a good place to start.

**also note - it might take some valium (and some major hutspa) to get through the manuevers PT's have you do. The reason you feel a spinning sensation is because your eyes are involuntarily moving (nystagmus). When they do a manuever, they will purposely put you through one of these spins by having you roll to one side than another until you sit up. If you have nystagmus, you have BPPV.

It's absolute hell, but just know that each spin only lasts less than a minute. It's important to relax, and let it finish its course on each roll, because the crystals need to move completely through the ear canal in order to settle.

I found out the hard way and stopped half way through, which made my dizziness unbareable and I couldn't function for weeks.

There's a lot of different reasons for dizziness. From what I've experienced and been told by prof's is that BPPV (although debilitating) is one of the easiest to clear. If you have it, you've probably had it for a very long time.

Take care, try not to get too anxious. It makes things twice as bad really.

snh39


Freebird, check and see posts from OHIOGUY28, maybe you both live close and (he? assuming) can let you know what course he's done, people to recommend.
Missy7777, I sure pray you are correct on the vestibular migrane part. All my vestibular, hearing, MRI with contrast and Cat Scan turned out perfectly fine. I still feel that my ears are full and have to yawn to clear them out. I have occasional migranes maybe once every couple months and I know they are coming on in advance because I can only see parts of things at first and then the full blown migrane. My mother has migranes as well but no vertigo or sight issues. My question I guess is this. My vertigo is constant not just brought on by the migrane and the migranes as I said are not frequent at all but when I have them they are terrible. My ENT will not perscribe me any medication at all! Period! She has me scheduled for a Neurologist which I have seen two before in Tulsa Oklahoma. I am now going to the Cleveland Clinic but I cannot get into see him until July 2nd! I can't wait that long! In the meantime she is having me go to some balance therapy that I start next week and says that will help. I told the ENT the only way I made it through last week was because I had some valium from a year ago that another Dr. perscribed to me and it helped to supress it but of course the vertigo did not go away. What are you taking for your migranes and do you really think since my migranes are so infrequent that this could be the cause of my daily vertigo? I appreciate everyone's posts on here. You all have been very helpful! Thanks so very, very much!
[QUOTE=1Freebird;3569798]Missy7777, I sure pray you are correct on the vestibular migrane part. All my vestibular, hearing, MRI with contrast and Cat Scan turned out perfectly fine. I still feel that my ears are full and have to yawn to clear them out. I have occasional migranes maybe once every couple months and I know they are coming on in advance because I can only see parts of things at first and then the full blown migrane. My mother has migranes as well but no vertigo or sight issues. My question I guess is this. My vertigo is constant not just brought on by the migrane and the migranes as I said are not frequent at all but when I have them they are terrible. My ENT will not perscribe me any medication at all! Period! She has me scheduled for a Neurologist which I have seen two before in Tulsa Oklahoma. I am now going to the Cleveland Clinic but I cannot get into see him until July 2nd! I can't wait that long! In the meantime she is having me go to some balance therapy that I start next week and says that will help. I told the ENT the only way I made it through last week was because I had some valium from a year ago that another Dr. perscribed to me and it helped to supress it but of course the vertigo did not go away. What are you taking for your migranes and do you really think since my migranes are so infrequent that this could be the cause of my daily vertigo? I appreciate everyone's posts on here. You all have been very helpful! Thanks so very, very much!

I am so sorry you are going through this, and even MORE sorry that you cannot get a physician to prescribe you MUCH NEEDED medication to help you through this! Your ENT infuriates me! When I first started out with this ordeal, my ENT is the one who prescribed me Ativan for the dizziness (similar to valium) and Compozine for the nausea. There were times in the beginning of this that without the Ativan I would not be able to stand up. July is TOO long for you to be suffering like this without help. I would see a different physician.

That being said, the neurologist is definitely where you want to be headed to (no pun intended). It does indeed sound like classic vestibular migraine. The ear fulless - yes, I still have that but not as bad, and the vertigo or dizziness is tell tale signs. My thinking behing your constant dizziness, even without headache, is that you are STUCK in a migraneous state and need to break it - break the cycle. I have read that the symptoms of migraine can last months and months if the migraine itself is not put to rest. There are over 100 migraine medications out there - you will certainly find the one that is right for you. If you have TOO frequent migraine activity, you may want to try a PREVENTIVE medication that you take daily to stop the migraines from ever occurring. If you have less frequent migraines, then you could use an ABORTIVE medication that you take when a migraine hits. THere is some thinking out there that preventive medication works better for people who experience dizziness, but I don't know if I necessarily agree with this.

Anyway, you do need to see a GOOD neurologist who specializes in vestibular migraine. And in the mean time you need to find a doctor you can get you some relief with Ativan, Klonapin, Valium, SOMETHING to help you through the dizziness. You can also try to see if you can get a migraine abortive in the meantime to try to break the cycle. Examples would be Imitrex, Fiorinal, Midrin.

Hang in there - you WILL get better once you find the right medication! In the meantime, try to avoid all of the regular migraine triggers we have been talking about on this board.
Well the Neurologist told me he thinks for sure that my vertigo is caused by Vestibular Migraines and that this is Genetic. I have never heard that before. He gave me a script for Lamictal (lomotrigine) that he says can cause depression and valium I guess to help on that end. Does this sound correct to those of you who have been experiencing this? I am wondering if anyone has had any side effects on Lamictal and what I can expect. Has anyone heard of the migraines being genetic? He said it usually can skip a generation. I sure pray he is right. I have not felt a difference in the last two days since but I am hoping and praying. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
[QUOTE=1Freebird;3580009]Well the Neurologist told me he thinks for sure that my vertigo is caused by Vestibular Migraines and that this is Genetic. I have never heard that before. He gave me a script for Lamictal (lomotrigine) that he says can cause depression and valium I guess to help on that end. Does this sound correct to those of you who have been experiencing this? I am wondering if anyone has had any side effects on Lamictal and what I can expect. Has anyone heard of the migraines being genetic? He said it usually can skip a generation. I sure pray he is right. I have not felt a difference in the last two days since but I am hoping and praying. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

The valium is for any anxiety issues you may be having (or may have with the Lamictal) and also to calm down your vestibular system when you are feeling dizzy and anxious. I use something similar called "Ativan" when the dizziness and anxiety gets out of control. As for the Lamictal, this is a medication used to treat epilepsy and bi-polar disorder. Sometimes, these types of medications can also help to treat migraines, but is usually used after other more traditional medications have been tried. I haven't heard too much about Lamictal on this board - maybe someone can give you their first hand experience. Good luck! Keep us posted on how it works!