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Oh Alegre!!
I just finished posting you a reply that took me about twenty minutes, then I must have hit some button and poof, it's gone.

Suffice it to say that you are doing great. I guess the pills that you have, Temoreki? are what is prescribed for pain. Upon researching buprenorphine, I learned that the usual dose for moderate to severe pain is .03 mgs, every six hours. This is actually equal to 10 mgs. of morphine. That is as far as it's attachment to your opiate receptors. It attachess itself to your receptors and stays there much longer than the short acting opiates like Vicodin. So, if you were to try and take a pain pill while on the sub. there would be no effect. You would have to go off the sub. and wait a week or so, so to do that we would have to actually PLAN a relapse a week or more ahead. Now, I have done some stupid things, but I would not do that.

I am concerned that you are getting your sub from another person rather than a doctor. First of all, it is illegal and you will be put in jail, if caught, but secondly, there are many wonderful addiction doctors around who will prescribe it to you and support you during your taper. You are almost there, but in case you get some residual symptoms, he could help. At night I take something called Seroquel, it is totally non addictive and just relaxes me into a normal drowsy sleepiness, not like Ambien, which is a sleeping pill I tred.

Please post to me anytime, I will check a couple times every day.

I am so impressed with the people I have met on this board. This would really be a wonderful subject for a show like Oprah. I would want to approach her with my story, my many, many failures to quit and then finally how so many of us have used Suboxone to not only detox, but to have time to think rationally about my life and my family. I know that if I had not found the sub. I would be dead or in jail, I am absolutely sure of it. I feel I missed a lot of my daughters years in high school do to my drug obsession, I also ended up spending thousands of dollars on internet pharmacies, etc.

The use of this board is also a subject that I would want to let people know about. You see, I have no one that supports me emotionally at home in this regard. Mainly, because my husband got so very disgusted when I continued to relapse, he felt, if I wanted to, I could, so he came to the conclusion that I didn't want to, which wasn't true, I wanted to with all my heart, but the sub has allowed me to do it and I am so very thankful

Sweetie please post me everyday and let me know how you're doing.

Linda

ps.What state do you live in?? Are you married, boyfriend, any pets, in scho :wave: ol?
[QUOTE=Done with Drugs]Oh Alegre!!
I just finished posting you a reply that took me about twenty minutes, then I must have hit some button and poof, it's gone.

Suffice it to say that you are doing great. I guess the pills that you have, Temoreki? are what is prescribed for pain. Upon researching buprenorphine, I learned that the usual dose for moderate to severe pain is .03 mgs, every six hours. This is actually equal to 10 mgs. of morphine. That is as far as it's attachment to your opiate receptors. It attachess itself to your receptors and stays there much longer than the short acting opiates like Vicodin. So, if you were to try and take a pain pill while on the sub. there would be no effect. You would have to go off the sub. and wait a week or so, so to do that we would have to actually PLAN a relapse a week or more ahead. Now, I have done some stupid things, but I would not do that.

I am concerned that you are getting your sub from another person rather than a doctor. First of all, it is illegal and you will be put in jail, if caught, but secondly, there are many wonderful addiction doctors around who will prescribe it to you and support you during your taper. You are almost there, but in case you get some residual symptoms, he could help. At night I take something called Seroquel, it is totally non addictive and just relaxes me into a normal drowsy sleepiness, not like Ambien, which is a sleeping pill I tred.

Please post to me anytime, I will check a couple times every day.

I am so impressed with the people I have met on this board. This would really be a wonderful subject for a show like Oprah. I would want to approach her with my story, my many, many failures to quit and then finally how so many of us have used Suboxone to not only detox, but to have time to think rationally about my life and my family. I know that if I had not found the sub. I would be dead or in jail, I am absolutely sure of it. I feel I missed a lot of my daughters years in high school do to my drug obsession, I also ended up spending thousands of dollars on internet pharmacies, etc.

The use of this board is also a subject that I would want to let people know about. You see, I have no one that supports me emotionally at home in this regard. Mainly, because my husband got so very disgusted when I continued to relapse, he felt, if I wanted to, I could, so he came to the conclusion that I didn't want to, which wasn't true, I wanted to with all my heart, but the sub has allowed me to do it and I am so very thankful

Sweetie please post me everyday and let me know how you're doing.

Linda

ps.What state do you live in?? Are you married, boyfriend, any pets, in scho :wave: ol?
Hi my name is ryan and I know suboxone has saved my life, its just a problem finding a doctor to help me get off of the stuff, my doctor has moved into private practice and i cant afford to travel that far plus pay his outrageous fee! please help me find a doctor I can contact to help me, I am out of suboxone as of today, and I am scared. I take 8mg once a day! dont know what 2 do??
Hi,to all!

(and Kimbee...so good to see--or rather--read--you!) :D

I have not been on-line here for a long time. One of my two dogs passed away several weeks ago--she had very bad heart disease and was so ill for during that last month...needing so many pills, compounds, etc, help cleaning up (bad diarrhea), special diet and coaxing to eat, carrying back and forth everywhere.....and--most of all-- lots and lots of hugs and kisses. So.....I've been so sad, I was just not able to focus on the board.

Celeste was the most gentle, sweet dog....and lived a good and full life (she was a rescue dog....about 10 months when we found her). And right to her last day, she was so content and so comfortable and so happy just to sit in my lap and be with me. But....no matter how "good--or how full" your furry friend's life has been....that doesn't stop the awful grieving you go through, when they have to move on without you. :-( (I am so fortunate to have my other dog, my Lhasa, Theo, who knows just what to "say"--and which knee to lick--whenever I feel sad.) :)

So.....my mind has been so preoccupied the past six weeks or so with Celeste that I've barely been on the board during that time. But I did want to say that I am doing so very well on the Subutex--and it has brought me back to where I was, mentally, so many years ago, before Vicodins and I became such "tight friends!!!

I realize that I had actually forgotten that I could feel like I now do....reacting "normally" to life....discovering that shopping, dr. appts, daily errands, etc are NOT the Himalayan mountains I used to climb each day. Even when I'm, say, in the newspaper shop, now, I find pleasure in just saying "good morning" to the owner. I no longer see each trip out of my apartment as a "reconnaissance" mission, where I must get back to the safety of my apartment ASAP.

I never, ever believed I could be back at this point again. It truly is a miracle for me. And what amazes me most is waking up each day without automatically (and anxiously) thinking "Okay, I feel terrible. But, I'll pop a pill...and THEN I can get up...or walk my dogs...or write a letter....or finish some sketches....etc, etc, etc." And, of course--after taking that pill--what would happen, in actuality, was I'd be lucky for the pill "high" to last me long enough to even get dressed!!!

For most of my life, clinical depression has been my mortal enemy. And, although my Prozac and Wellbutrin have worked well....I do believe that there is definitely an antidepressant effect from Subutex. It's like this hazy "cloud" has been lifted and life is clearer again. What I fear most about getting off the Sub--is losing that.

Today is my appt with my Sub doctor...and we'll be discussing the past few months since I've seen her. She knows that depression has always been a big struggle for me....and she is adament that keeping it at bay is more important than anything. I don't know whether she may have at one time experienced it, herself--but she is often the first one to say that life has little meaning when one is depressed...that depression is the forerunner to so many of our other troubles (ie, drugs.)

So, I will be discussing this aspect of the Sub with her....how it has lifted the last of my depression. (After a month or so on the Sub, I had tried to taper....but found my depression coming back within about ten days.)

Trying to get conclusive information about this drug is just impossible. It's too new, too untested....and, now, it's become this issue bandied about by non-medical "civilians" (like me), all presenting such conflicting reports of how the Sub works--and how it should be viewed on a short and long-term basis. It's all conjecture at the moment.....but, all I can say is, it's given my life back to me. And, if, while I am taking it, I am just "exchanging one drug for another"--so be it. For now, I will consider it in the category of my Prozac and Wellbutrin...a drug that's kept me functioning.

I do plan to taper....but hopefully not beyond the point where I've lost its benefits. I have to see what my doctor says today. On a personal level--it has given me so much "feeling" back, again. And, on a practical level, I am finally starting to do all the piled-up projects, etc, that were put off during all those drug years...so....I am in no hurry to go back to where I was.

Reading other success stories about Sub are so important to me.. If it wasn't for wonderful people like Goddessgrl--and all her encouragement--I would be right where I was last year at this time....NOT a good place to be! :rolleyes:

Okay. Hello to you all, again. And, now I've got to read back through the archives and see what you all have been up to!

luv, Lynn :cool: