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Hi Joe,

It's funny you posted this because I had the same question. I was perscribed Lyrica back in Jan. after I had 2 epidurals for a L5 S1 herniation. The Lyrica didn't seem to do much (neither did the shots). so I had extra laying around. I had surgery 5 weeks ago and still have the nerve pain. I asked my Dr. about the med and he said it is persribed more for nerves that have been "cut". Well I decided to try them again since I wasn't happy with the vicodin. They seem to be helping with the pain and the only draw back is that it does make me sleepy. I'm hoping this means that my nerve pain has just not settled down and that I didn't reherniate my disc. I go for an MRI soon to find out. Good luck to you!

Nancy
Thanks for the reply folks,

Tammy, I hope the neurontin works for you and you get some relief without too many problems. This board has been great and it's nice to know that if one med doesn't work we may have other options as far as the pain meds go. I have stopped all my pain meds, The morphine, oxycontin, methadose and vicodine. I got tired of being chained to them for so many years I still have the nerve pain in my ankle, calf and buttock as well as the pain in the groin and at times in my hip. I also get needle like stings in my toes from time to time. Anyway I'll let ya know about this med and how it works.

Carol, Thanks again, 28 months after surgery is way too long to still be in pain. I am being treated the same way I was before the surgery and the reason I had the surgery was to get relief, stop having those spinal injections. The nerve pain now is worse than before the 1st surgery but better after the 2nd but as you have read still alot of nerve pain. Funny thig is I have no back pain and didn't have it before surgery but I did have back pain and spasms years ago.

Hi Nancy, Did you have surgery? MY 2 surgeries were on the L4-L5 disc I had a micro d and it reherniated within 6weeks and was back in for a redo that knocked me for a loop and that was 28 months ago. After the 2nd surgery I could only take 2 steps and now I can walk a block or so before the pain gets real bad. So I guess from 2 steps to a block is an improvement :) As far as making me sleepy maybe I'll get to sleep a full night? Good luck with your MRI and hope you didn't reherniated.

Shawley Broh! I'm going to give it go, I know you been in pain for awhile as well and hope it all calms down for you also. Let us know what happens at the Doc's tomorrow. I hope it all works out and that the fusion does take for you. If the doc's only knew the stress we go through wich also doesn't help with the pain a vicious circle it is.

Hope you all get pain free soon and your outcomes are possitive ones,

Joe
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Joe, I have to say that you have more guts then me, I canbarely cook plain meals to keep the family from starving much less grilling for that many people..
Hope you however had a good time and was able to enjoy yourself.
Right now I'm on methadone and a few other meds,methadone is pretty good for nerve pain and I'm also thinking about trying topomax, I'm just sick of living my life watching the clock for the next round of meds, it would be so worth it if it really helped with the quality of my life, which I guess it does for without the meds who knows where I'd be.
Good luck and I hope that lyrica turns out to be the med for you, sounds good so far..
Linda


Hi Linda, We had 24 people here.. I enjoy cooking and have noticed if I get involved in something it takes my mind off the pain some. I was limping and my wife is always telling me to sit down. lay down or take it easy. Although I been havng this nerve pain for 28 months It's hard for me to sit still as life is too short. However I did over due it, My legs were sore as well as the back and bottom of my feet. I was on Methadone, Methadose, Morphine, Oxycontin and Vicodine during the past 11 years and been off the meds for about a little while now. I know they would help with the pain but I'm not going back on them. I fell better mentally being off of them but have the nerve pain, If only I could find something in the middle. My Dr say's I have a very, very high threashold for pain because I was getting injection into my piriformis muscle without novacaine and didn't flinch. I told him that I'm a chicken and don't like needles and as long as he's talking to me I'll be ok.. I did have a bought back in January where I thought I reherniated it for the 3rd time. I had the mri and it was just a pissed off sciatic nerve telling me not to do what I did I went back on the vicodine for a few weeks. BTW, my taste for sweets has also decreased, when I was on the heavy meds I had one hell of a sweet tooth.. I hope the topomax works for you and you get some relief.

Good Luck and let me know how the topomax works out,

Joe
Hey Joe,

The doctor and I spoke today and he is afraid to give me anything else right now due to the adverse side effects that I had with Nuerontin and Lyrica. At the moment my whole body is swollen, with the most in the lower extremeties. He said that he does not believe all this is due to the back surgery and will refer me to my GP to test for other things that might be causing the swelling. I didn't have this problem at all before the surgery.

Personally, I dont know for sure, but maybe my body does not like the titanium or the bmp material.. I dont know. I am a poster child for allergies with foods, environment, metals, etc.. so it could be anything. Maybe I have an infection somewhere. Other than the swelling and headache I have had, I feel as I should I think. (When the swelling is down, my leg pain is tolerable).

He wants me to just tough it out for at least a few weeks and stay on my dose of skelaxin and vicodin. Well if I could have done that before, I would not have called him in the first place. My pain management doctor told me a long time ago, that surgeons are surgeons, and they get frustrated with complications and aren't much good pass the chopping.

So I am going to call him tomorrow as well as my GP and try to get to the heart of the matter. When I am not swollen, I feel pretty darn good. So we need to get rid of the swelling without anti-inflammers then try and hang until such time I can take them again.

I am glad the Lyrica is working for you Joe and that you are asking them to up your dose until you feel that you are at a tolerable level.

I will keep you posted. Your puffy back pal. hehehe Tammy
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Hey Joe,

The doctor and I spoke today and he is afraid to give me anything else right now due to the adverse side effects that I had with Nuerontin and Lyrica. At the moment my whole body is swollen, with the most in the lower extremeties. He said that he does not believe all this is due to the back surgery and will refer me to my GP to test for other things that might be causing the swelling. I didn't have this problem at all before the surgery.

Personally, I dont know for sure, but maybe my body does not like the titanium or the bmp material.. I dont know. I am a poster child for allergies with foods, environment, metals, etc.. so it could be anything. Maybe I have an infection somewhere. Other than the swelling and headache I have had, I feel as I should I think. (When the swelling is down, my leg pain is tolerable).

He wants me to just tough it out for at least a few weeks and stay on my dose of skelaxin and vicodin. Well if I could have done that before, I would not have called him in the first place. My pain management doctor told me a long time ago, that surgeons are surgeons, and they get frustrated with complications and aren't much good pass the chopping.

So I am going to call him tomorrow as well as my GP and try to get to the heart of the matter. When I am not swollen, I feel pretty darn good. So we need to get rid of the swelling without anti-inflammers then try and hang until such time I can take them again.

I am glad the Lyrica is working for you Joe and that you are asking them to up your dose until you feel that you are at a tolerable level.

I will keep you posted. Your puffy back pal. hehehe Tammy


Hey Tammy, You may be "Puffy" but your not "Stuffy" And as Martha Stewart would say "And That's a good thing" I am sorry that your all puffed up. Might be a good idea to get some of the meds you tried out of your system. I was on Skelaxin and vicodine and it never touched the nerve pain. Your PM Dr is correct, once the surgery is over thier job is done and you have to move on to pain management or your GP.

Now here "I am a poster child for allergies with foods, environment, metals, etc.. so it could be anything." You sound like my wifes twin.. lol But she makes me eat vegtables and breakfast.

Have you been keeping your feet up? Like above your heart to bring down the swelling?

As far as the Lyrica goes it does seem to be reducing the nerve pain but other pain are surfacing.. ie: crampy feeling in calf, butt and more groin pain than usual.. I had my last MRI 3 months ago and all looked great.

Your doing the right thing not giving up, Make them listen to you and get to the bottom of what's going on. Be Umm "Fiesty" Let me know what the GP says ..

Good Luck,

Joe
Hi Joe, its Tammy. Sorry I havent updated you on how Im doing. Sorry that you are still having a rough time adjusting to medication. Hang in there, things should level out for you.

have managed to stay off any nerve medication and I am surviving (nights were horrible at first, but I am now sleeping a bit better). I still have the leg/foot pain/weakness but it's much better.. I hope that continues to lessen.

After the allergic reaction to neuontin and lyrica.. the surgeon said no more of that type of drug because of the serious reaction to them, he was afraid it would only make things worse for me and other organs. And I agreed with him. So I took it one step further and in order to bring down swelling.. I brought myself off of almost ALL meds entirely. It took at good week but things are now in control and more of my ankles are reappearing each day. I am now averaging 1 5mg vicodin and 1/2 800mg tab of skelaxin per day. When things are hurting more... I up the vicodin a bit to help ease things. But I am doing better. My hips now ache more of course, but assume that is the bones healing and such and the change in the body after surgery. I have more clarity and feel a little more normal not taking the meds. I just know.. it's gonna be awhile before things heal up and get more normal again. I am staying optimistic!

I am also hoping to return to work in a few weeks part-time.. even though I am still hurting.. it's not any worse than a flared up day before the surgery and I was working then. I just have a lot less flexibility right now and am more restricted while I heal.

While I was so swollen and knew I could not take the nerve meds.. I started reading and making phone calls. I called health stores, my pharamacist, and I stumbled onto an alchemist in my town. He told me some of the coolest stuff. He said when conventional RX drugs dont work for patients.. that is where he comes in. He hand makes all medications based on the needs of the patients. He told me that many people can not orally tolerate Neurontin.. and he makes a topical creme and depending on how deep they need it.. how strong he makes it and mixes it with other RX meds that provide the results without alot of the side effects of oral medications. Of course, he only does this with working with doctors writing a script for him to help.

He also said that with the amount of RX drugs, that my body as probably very deficient in magnesium.. causing more muscle pain and spasms. I went to the health store and got a bottle of calcium/magnesium.. The stuff has really helped. So far, I have not had one spasm and muscle pain.. none.

I asked my pharamcist about Quinine. She said many of her patients swear by the stuff to ease their nerve pain.. but it is in perscription strength. I bought some over the counter strength.. and that stuff helped take a edge off some. So, if you have not tried these things.. and the Lyrica stops helping you.. You might consider giving these a whirl. Might help, might not. Just wanted to share that with you and everyone.

Take care guy.. and hang in there. Tammy :wave:
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Hi Joe, its Tammy. Sorry I havent updated you on how Im doing. Sorry that you are still having a rough time adjusting to medication. Hang in there, things should level out for you.

I hope so, I cancelled my injection because the pain lessoned... I am thinking I'll just have to adjust to the side affects until my body adjust to the meds.

have managed to stay off any nerve medication and I am surviving (nights were horrible at first, but I am now sleeping a bit better). I still have the leg/foot pain/weakness but it's much better.. I hope that continues to lessen.

I hope it lessons for you also. I still have some pain in my ankle and at times in my groin but the pain in my hip is gone

After the allergic reaction to neuontin and lyrica.. the surgeon said no more of that type of drug because of the serious reaction to them, he was afraid it would only make things worse for me and other organs. And I agreed with him. So I took it one step further and in order to bring down swelling.. I brought myself off of almost ALL meds entirely. It took at good week but things are now in control and more of my ankles are reappearing each day. I am now averaging 1 5mg vicodin and 1/2 800mg tab of skelaxin per day. When things are hurting more... I up the vicodin a bit to help ease things. But I am doing better. My hips now ache more of course, but assume that is the bones healing and such and the change in the body after surgery. I have more clarity and feel a little more normal not taking the meds. I just know.. it's gonna be awhile before things heal up and get more normal again. I am staying optimistic!

Tammy, That is great, I was on pain meds for well over 10 years. I am clean now and mentally I am more clearer, not so dragged down feeling is also gone. We have no idea when on the pain meds just how it affects our moods. My wife notices the difference and tells me I am more lively now.

I am also hoping to return to work in a few weeks part-time.. even though I am still hurting.. it's not any worse than a flared up day before the surgery and I was working then. I just have a lot less flexibility right now and am more restricted while I heal.

It's looking like I won't be able to go back to my trade being a carpenter.. I was self employed but who knows .. If I am really careful and can stand on my feet all day .. I just might be able too get back to it.

While I was so swollen and knew I could not take the nerve meds.. I started reading and making phone calls. I called health stores, my pharamacist, and I stumbled onto an alchemist in my town. He told me some of the coolest stuff. He said when conventional RX drugs dont work for patients.. that is where he comes in. He hand makes all medications based on the needs of the patients. He told me that many people can not orally tolerate Neurontin.. and he makes a topical creme and depending on how deep they need it.. how strong he makes it and mixes it with other RX meds that provide the results without alot of the side effects of oral medications. Of course, he only does this with working with doctors writing a script for him to help.

We have a pharamacist here that do that also... I had some cream for when I injured my back, But I then had the mri and it shown a herniation and the cream didn't help mush at that time .

He also said that with the amount of RX drugs, that my body as probably very deficient in magnesium.. causing more muscle pain and spasms. I went to the health store and got a bottle of calcium/magnesium.. The stuff has really helped. So far, I have not had one spasm and muscle pain.. none.

More good new Tammy, You are a fighter.. never take no for an answer.. try everything to get through this.

I asked my pharamcist about Quinine. She said many of her patients swear by the stuff to ease their nerve pain.. but it is in perscription strength. I bought some over the counter strength.. and that stuff helped take a edge off some. So, if you have not tried these things.. and the Lyrica stops helping you.. You might consider giving these a whirl. Might help, might not. Just wanted to share that with you and everyone.

Good idea .. wonder if I can take quinine with the lyrica ..

Take care guy.. and hang in there. Tammy :wave:


No more Puffy Tammy I see .. lol .. That's good news all around I guess.

Be Well my ex "Puffy Friend" Now it's "Friend Tammy with Ankles"

Joe

PS: Have you heard that taking pain meds for a long period of time can cause "Dry Eye" syndrone? I'm curious if others have heard of this also.