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Hello.

I have been using Benzos (Valium, Serepax & Xanax) on seperate occasions to treat my anxiety disorder.

My new doctor will no longer allow me to continue Benzos as a treatment option and is not willing to allow me to taper off them, or prescribe them to me at all.

I'm so scared. After a few days of not using some form of benzo my anxiety hits really hard and I begin to find my muscles spasm and ache. My frame of mind changes and I always worry. I find it hard to breath and can often feel physically ill.

I'm now doomed, as I can't get any medication and the doctor has referred me to a psychologist, but I can't get in for over a week.

I know the withdrawl symptoms will come and I can't handle them. It's scaring me to death.

I'm only 21! - What can I do? I live alone and my family is hours away. I work full time and I'm scared I won't be able to cope. It interferes with m whole life when I have anxiety.

I tried stopping benzos about a week ago. After the 3rd day the aches/spasms had become really bad. I was PANICKED for no reason. I thought something was wrong with my heart and ended up visiting my hospitals ER. Scared I might be having a heart problem.

Please someone offer me some advice or help. I need support and reassurance. I've never felt anything as awful as this before.

Thank you.

Josh.
You might even have a lawsuit here. A dr. can't cut off your supply of benzos, it can lead to fatal seizures. I have read of cases where patients won in such instances. Not the same as an opiate dependency -- a dr. can discontinue you from opiates and the withdrawal, though excruciating, is not considered enough in itself to cause a fatality. But don't mention the legal thing to the dr. unless you have a lawyer ready -- you are within medical rights to demand to see a psychiatrist who can prescribe you immediately. Even use the paperwork from the hospital, including that they gave you Valium, to back you up. I had to take the ER route when my dr.s office went on a wlk-off and no one was there to call in my Xanax refill. The ER dr. said that I had done the right thing, that benzo cold turkey is a NO NO.
Shal,

1. Abuse is no a pre-requisite for benzo addiction. In fact, the opposite typically holds true. The problem is many docs prescribe them until you become addicted then wash their hands with when it hits the fan. Seeing themselves as such nice and responsible people for doing so... It is a farse and an atrocity. But this doc is not the only doc in town, remember that...

2. All of the symptoms you describe are classic benzo withdrawal symptoms. Look up the Ashton Manual available on the net and you will see. I have had the exact symptoms you describe and never had any of them before taking these drugs! I was essentially prescribed Xanax for sleep. Just realizing what is happening to you may calm you some. Chances are very slim that you are having or are going to have a heart attack...

3. What dose of what drug have you jumped off from? This is relevent. If it has only been a few days I would suggest getting the meds back in your system and starting a taper, which I could give some suggestions on. Find another doctor! Go with an internal medicine specialist. It is their job to tackle tough cases. If you cannot get an appointment right away, you could probably get a one week or so supply at an urgent care center. Just tell them what happened. Ask any pharmacist, who unforunately usually know more about these drugs than the docs, and they will tell you that cold turkeying off of benzodiazepines is unadvisable. I would not take any anti-depressants if offered by a doctor. These usually complicate matters.

4. You do have one other option, though it is of course risky. Tough it out. You are young. There is a real chance that symptoms will begin to subside in a couple of weeks and may disappear entirely in a month or two. This is not uncommon. People cold turkey off these meds often and get away with it. But this is not the best route, especially if you are jumping off from a high dose. It definitely sounds like you are hooked..

Try and sit still, distract yourself, lay on the bed, keep us posted. You are not alone. I check here at least three times a day.
Quote from shal:
Thank you for all the information.

I went and saw another doctor today in the same clinic. I explained that the previous doctor has stopped me all together and didn't allow me to taper.

I told him I was unhappy and experiencing bad withdrawls from Valium. I was totally upfront.

He agreed with a taper method but wasn't happy about allowing me to use Valium. I did explain to him I had a depedency and I was NOT a Junkie.

The doctor I was seeing was very reluctant to prescribe me Valium but he did in the end. The taper is 5MG for 2 weeks, 2MG for 2 weeks, and then 1MG for 2 weeks then finish.

I hope this works.

What do you guys think?

Josh...


That is a 6 week taper, fast in my opinion, and appears well faster than the 10% a week that U.S. pharamacists typically recommend. Way faster than Ashton recommends. But again, you may get away with it considering your age and short term usage. I quit with zero withdrawals after 9 months on Xanax. Ran out of pills... Sorry you go hooked so fast. What dose are you starting at?

I tried a fast taper with Klonopin and you do not want to know about the hell that went on for over 3 weeks. Granted I had a lot of outside stressors at the time... How long would the hell have continued? We can never know as I put the drugs back in and started a slow taper. I have managed to work all but 2 weeks ever since I began this taper that has involved spending 5 months to cut out 15 mgs of Valium. No matter what you decide, it would pay to stabilze at your starting dose before beginning to taper. If you want to go slower then you will need to print a copy of the Ashton Manual and try and convince your doctor. As you will need more prescriptions that his plan will allow.
Just to let you know that the slow taper does work ok -- I did about 10% less every few weeks, going from 1.0 Xanax a day down, have been off completely for several weeks.

The one symptom I get is skipped heartbeats -- but I have mitral valve prolapse and that is part of why I got on Xanax to begin with -- stress in my life would start that irregular heartbeat, which is disturbing and uncomfortable although my dr. assures me it doesn't mean I'll have an actual heart health problem.

Good luck with getting off of it . . .
Quote from shal:
Hello.

I have been using Benzos (Valium, Serepax & Xanax) on seperate occasions to treat my anxiety disorder.

My new doctor will no longer allow me to continue Benzos as a treatment option and is not willing to allow me to taper off them, or prescribe them to me at all.

I'm so scared. After a few days of not using some form of benzo my anxiety hits really hard and I begin to find my muscles spasm and ache. My frame of mind changes and I always worry. I find it hard to breath and can often feel physically ill.

I'm now doomed, as I can't get any medication and the doctor has referred me to a psychologist, but I can't get in for over a week.

I know the withdrawl symptoms will come and I can't handle them. It's scaring me to death.

I'm only 21! - What can I do? I live alone and my family is hours away. I work full time and I'm scared I won't be able to cope. It interferes with m whole life when I have anxiety.

I tried stopping benzos about a week ago. After the 3rd day the aches/spasms had become really bad. I was PANICKED for no reason. I thought something was wrong with my heart and ended up visiting my hospitals ER. Scared I might be having a heart problem.

Please someone offer me some advice or help. I need support and reassurance. I've never felt anything as awful as this before.

Thank you.

Josh.
I am a prescription narcotic addict. (recovering)
I was told by an addictionologist that alot of times if you abuse one drug, you will most likely abuse another.
I have also been diagnosed with a major panic disorder. I was in a facility for narcotic drugs and they immediately took my benzos cold turkey and I thought I was going to die.
I have never abused that class of drugs. I take maybe one or two xanax every three days....I try to fight anxiety until it gets so bad I can't stand it...
What I am trying to say is that you need to find a new doctor who is willing to treat anxiety. There are so many physical symptoms that come along with untreated anxiety and the dr is obviously a moron if he is not aware of the fatal consequences of stopping these medications abruptly...Please get a second opinion...No one should have to suffer from anxiety on a daily basis....
If they are concerned about addiction...there are plenty of other anxiety drugs they can use out of the benzo class....
Good luck to you.
Shal, 10mg of xanax is a very large dose. I take 1/4mg every night for sleep and have been doing this for a lot of years. It Is dangerous to not taper off gradually; your new doctor may be making a big mistake. You owe it to yourself and your safety to call a different doctor and talk to either him or to his receptionist/nurse. You do not have to name the new doctor; if you do, they may not see you. These drs. stick together. Tell them you've been taking ten mg's a day and you spoke with a different doctor and he is refusing to taper you and you're having symptoms. Say exactly that:
"I spoke with a new dr. and he refuses to taper me. I had to go to the Emergency Room." THAT should get their attention! They do Not want to it to get around that they were partially responsible for seizures in a new patient! They CARE about their reputations!!
Let us know how this turns out. And in the meantime, I want you to know that 500mg of TRYPTOPHAN a day has all but stopped of my anxiety.
I Highly recommend it and it works in less than one week!!!!
It is pronounced, "TRIP TOE FAN."